Gauge options- FIS, Can Checked etc.

[Silkrcket]

I was trying to decide on what gauge and pod configuration to go with. I was looking for a steering column mount that is offset either right or left, not middle blocking my info screen. If you know of any let me know.

During this search, I stumbled upon FIS control and Can checked MFD-28. I don't know much about either but wanted to check with the community on what is best and any pros and cons. I like the idea of seeing live data without using VCDS all the time. These gauge systems seem to be sourced overseas, does anyone know of any US-based retailers? Has anyone customized an MFD-28 into the center vents as shown on the Can Checked website?

[Bordom]

Just checked out their site. It's an interesting product that does similarly to the colour MFA screen upgrade in the cluster. I'd personally do the cluster upgrade than anything else

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[Silverex]

I have the FIS Control and it’s one of my favorite mods. Can check/clear codes, monitor any OBDII data I’d like on the fly, etc. What made me go with the FIS is the fact you can add upto 8 additional aftermarket sensors. I have a ext map sensor for boost, psi for fuel, oil, meth kit, and fed my wideband output to it also.

[LJS]

I have the FIS Control and it’s one of my favorite mods. Can check/clear codes, monitor any OBDII data I’d like on the fly, etc. What made me go with the FIS is the fact you can add upto 8 additional aftermarket sensors. I have a ext map sensor for boost, psi for fuel, oil, meth kit, and fed my wideband output to it also.

Can you display BOOST and AFR at the same time mimicking a duplex display such as the Innovate PSB-1 ...I couldn't ascertain that from their web site

[RMode]

Just checked out their site. It's an interesting product that does similarly to the colour MFA screen upgrade in the cluster. I'd personally do the cluster upgrade than anything else

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I am a dealer for CAN, and have the FIS in my car. The color mfa is not similar. I was formerly able to supply the FIS too, but they have recently switched distributors, and I've been too busy to reach out to the new one. I do speak to the creator of the device from time to time. He's been super helpful through the years.

The biggest upside these other units have vs CMFA is the ability to add external data sources/sensors like Silverex says, and then view their data simultaneously with OEM sensor data. They also then let you create custom views to look at the parameters you want to see on the fly, and log all that data as well. Both are in another league vs CMFA, and far more expandable but also more expensive as a result.

[RMode]

Can you display BOOST and AFR at the same time mimicking a duplex display such as the Innovate PSB-1 ...I couldn't ascertain that from their web site

Yes.

On the FIS, you can have multiple preset screens. They refer to it as pages. On my car, I have 8 different pages setup. All can be scrolled through with the turn signal stalk.

My page 1 preset is Boost/Vacuum (via an external map sensor), Wideband AFR, and Oil Pressure.

Here is a picture (not the preview pic below, click the link to my build thread).

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post15007912

My page 6 preset, which is what I use most of the time, is Boost/Vacuum in the upper field, then the standard FIS in the lower 2 cells (outside temp and miles to empty is what I use, but that bottom cell you can scroll the same different points as you can on the regular FIS (avg speed, miles per gallon, etc).

I chose the FISControl unit because I wanted things integrated into the stock cluster, and didn't want a color display. Wanted it all to match.

The CAN is more modern, but also ultimately more capable and easier to setup than the FISControl is. It also has it's own standalone touchscreen. The MFD28 can be ordered with a mount for the center pod, so there is no modding needed. I have several clients/friends with it.

[Silverex]

Can you display BOOST and AFR at the same time mimicking a duplex display such as the Innovate PSB-1 ...I couldn't ascertain that from their web site

Yep.
My main preset is
Batt voltage from OBDII
AFR from my Zeitronix zt-2
150psi oil pressure
4bar boost
IAT from OBDII
H20 from OBDII

A dusty picture

[LJS]

RMode, Silverex---THANKS for the input....
I've been looking at the FIS rig forever....Think this will make a nice simple winter project--Really not liking the POD mount Innovate Gauge I presently run.

[Silkrcket]

I am a dealer for CAN, and have the FIS in my car. The color mfa is not similar. I was formerly able to supply the FIS too, but they have recently switched distributors, and I've been too busy to reach out to the new one. I do speak to the creator of the device from time to time. He's been super helpful through the years.

The biggest upside these other units have vs CMFA is the ability to add external data sources/sensors like Silverex says, and then view their data simultaneously with OEM sensor data. They also then let you create custom views to look at the parameters you want to see on the fly, and log all that data as well. Both are in another league vs CMFA, and far more expandable but also more expensive as a result.

I was looking at the CAN MFD28 and noticed that the install instructions for the B5 state that it will not display boost from the CANBUS. I have to tap into or have another MAP sensor for the display only? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? Can the FIS display boost directly from the CANBUS without modifying or adding a MAP sensor?

[RMode]

I was looking at the CAN MFD28 and noticed that the install instructions for the B5 state that it will not display boost from the CANBUS. I have to tap into or have another MAP sensor for the display only? Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? Can the FIS display boost directly from the CANBUS without modifying or adding a MAP sensor?

You will need a standalone map sensor for either one.

[ZZottel]

The FIS-Control can read all measurement values from the ECU, just like VCDS can. So you can get a boost pressure reading from block 115 of the engine control unit. The output of that measuring block is in millibar by default, but the FIS-Control can also convert it to BAR and PSI if you want. Also it can be configured to subtract the ambient pressure (the FIS-Control 2.2 has an onboard ambient pressure sensor for this) to give the proper boost reading instead of the absolute MAP reading.
Limitations: The stock MAP sensor of the B5 does not measure vacuum. It will also max out at about 2.5 Bar absolute pressure. But there is still the option to attach own pressure sensors to the FIS-Control 2.2.

Btw, I am the developer of the FIS-Control. So if there are any more technical questions, just contact me.

Stefan

[Niek5291]

I have a FIS Control and I think it's awesome! Installation is quite straight forward. All cables/sockets are included. It is a bit fiddling with the cables, but it is doable.

Just like the guys telling here above; choose any channel (like 115, 118, etc...) you want (if supported by ECU), and choose your measurement block (1 until 4). You can have several preset screens. Several visualizations are possible; just numbers, a graph, graphic boost gauge... There is even a build-in DTC option, so you can read your fault codes during driving. You can go through the menus by using your wiper stick buttons.

The support from FIS Control is great as well. You can mail directly to the creator of FIS Control and most the times you'll receive an answer the same day.

[RMode]

I have a FIS Control and I think it's awesome! Installation is quite straight forward. All cables/sockets are included. It is a bit fiddling with the cables, but it is doable.

Just like the guys telling here above; choose any channel (like 115, 118, etc...) you want (if supported by ECU), and choose your measurement block (1 until 4). You can have several preset screens. Several visualizations are possible; just numbers, a graph, graphic boost gauge... There is even a build-in DTC option, so you can read your fault codes during driving. You can go through the menus by using your wiper stick buttons.

The support from FIS Control is great as well. You can mail directly to the creator of FIS Control and most the times you'll receive an answer the same day.

Absolutely

Stefan’s support and the piece itself is terrific. Absolutely one of the best things I’ve done to this, or any other car of mine.


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[Lizard821000]

Yep.
My main preset is
Batt voltage from OBDII
AFR from my Zeitronix zt-2
150psi oil pressure
4bar boost
IAT from OBDII
H20 from OBDII

A dusty picture

So you can display multiple values from different blocks on a single “summary” screen? Or do you need to toggle for them all? I’d like to have various values all displayed in the one place if possible.

[Lizard821000]

The FIS-Control can read all measurement values from the ECU, just like VCDS can. So you can get a boost pressure reading from block 115 of the engine control unit. The output of that measuring block is in millibar by default, but the FIS-Control can also convert it to BAR and PSI if you want. Also it can be configured to subtract the ambient pressure (the FIS-Control 2.2 has an onboard ambient pressure sensor for this) to give the proper boost reading instead of the absolute MAP reading.
Limitations: The stock MAP sensor of the B5 does not measure vacuum. It will also max out at about 2.5 Bar absolute pressure. But there is still the option to attach own pressure sensors to the FIS-Control 2.2.

Btw, I am the developer of the FIS-Control. So if there are any more technical questions, just contact me.

Stefan

So the “light” version can’t read boost like the 2.2 cam is that correct?

Great product by the way!

[Silverex]

So you can display multiple values from different blocks on a single “summary” screen? Or do you need to toggle for them all? I’d like to have various values all displayed in the one place if possible.

Yep can do various blocks and your own additional sensors on same screen. Haven't found any limitations that I wish it had.

[RMode]

So you can display multiple values from different blocks on a single “summary” screen? Or do you need to toggle for them all? I’d like to have various values all displayed in the one place if possible.

Just scroll up and you can see various pictures that answers this.

I have my screens setup to display 4 values at once, but more are possible. I wanted it easier to see at a quick glance. I have 7 different preset screens with 4 data points each, all have a mix of oem sensor points via the ecu, and the external sensors I added, that I configured and toggle between them either the mfd button.


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