Suspension Longevity

[duffdbub]

Hi everyone, hoping to get some input on something I think about a lot while driving. I installed H&R Super Sport lowering springs myself a year and 4 months ago. I however did not pair them with sport shocks/struts and retained the OE equipment(I know, I know). The stock suspension had approximately 37K miles on it when I installed the springs and have since put approximately 27K miles on it.

So my question is how much longer do my stock shocks/struts have? Should I already start shopping for suspension components? Or at least have in mind what I want to do next for suspension set up? Cause I wouldn't mind just installing some Bilstein coilovers and calling it a day.

[Rod Paine]

How does the car handle since your suspension change? Significantly improved? Are you running fast back roads and has your suspension delivered improved performance? Our initial change was tires involving 245/40/18 tires on Neuspeed RSe10 wheels, which significantly
improved handling performance, now having run 33,416 miles of fast back roads. The suspension has remained stock and has shown
very good performance from our 2019 RS 3 thus far. FWIW.

[Chaoscreature]

duffdbub,

It depends on so many factors. If your suspension doesn't feel horribly underdamped and you like the ride quality then there is no need to change anything. That being said I would guess that you are probably getting close to the end of life for the OEM shocks/struts.
When you do replace the struts/shocks just swap out the OE parts for Bilstein Sports (or Koni Sports (yellows)). If you don't plan on playing with the ride height and shock settings then an adjustable coilover is a waste of money.

[o1turbo30v]

They are done, time for some Bilstein B8's. Best price i found on them was rock auto btw

[obGLI]

I threw some ST adjustable springs on my mag ride at 60k and they were cooked in 2k miles lol. Just ordered B16’s.

I live in NY so the roads are brutal. Looking back, my shocks/struts were on their way out before the springs, but I like to play stupid games. Won a stupid prize


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[949]

im doing silvers full coilovers and getting them with free shipping and no sales tax through my hook up.

[Chaoscreature]

Best price i found on them was rock auto btw

Haha, that's where i got mine too :)

im doing silvers full coilovers and getting them with free shipping and no sales tax through my hook up.

I had to google them. let us know how they work out.

[949]

they are new to audi/vw.

one of the few I have researched that makes full coilovers for the s3.
most others are just sleeve springs or sleeve adjustable springs. in my high school days I did the sleeve over the stock shocks. first thing I learned is that they wear out the stock shocks horribly quick. quicker if you drive over harsher roads, have a ton of friends in the car, or just shocks that are heading out. as most of you guys are starting to learn. when I saw audi aftermarket springs sold, I was like wow high school again. lolz
I think I can afford full coilovers at this stage in my life.

BC racing is another brand that works as well. i was going to try BC racing out but saw these and decided to opt for these instead. these are a little more pricey but not horribly so. maybe another couple of hundred or less.

options I found that they do are super low version, upgradable spring to swift, and custom spring rates to whatever is needed.


I plan on doing 8k fronts and 10k rears. just a bit more stiffer but still drivable for daily. i used to do 16k fronts and 12k rears for a daily. been there and wont do that again.

[ChatYTB]

Hi everyone, hoping to get some input on something I think about a lot while driving. I installed H&R Super Sport lowering springs myself a year and 4 months ago. I however did not pair them with sport shocks/struts and retained the OE equipment(I know, I know). The stock suspension had approximately 37K miles on it when I installed the springs and have since put approximately 27K miles on it.

So my question is how much longer do my stock shocks/struts have? Should I already start shopping for suspension components? Or at least have in mind what I want to do next for suspension set up? Cause I wouldn't mind just installing some Bilstein coilovers and calling it a day.

They will last forever I have 110k miles and I haven't replaced anything only wheel bearings
All springs or shockers or bushes etc since manufacturing in 2104 september ..

[o1turbo30v]

They will last forever I have 110k miles and I haven't replaced anything only wheel bearings
All springs or shockers or bushes etc since manufacturing in 2104 september ..

Yes on stock springs the stock shocks and struts will last a while, you kill them when you put lowering springs on them as the OP stated/asked.

[ChatYTB]

Yes on stock springs the stock shocks and struts will last a while, you kill them when you put lowering springs on them as the OP stated/asked.

Sorry correction I have 102000 od miles not 120k
So it's time for me replace things but everything is expensive
Bushes kit like nearly £160 they making £50 ...
Each bush should be £5

[RMode]

Sorry correction I have 102000 od miles not 120k
So it's time for me replace things but everything is expensive
Bushes kit like nearly £160 they making £50 ...
Each bush should be £5

eye roll

This company isn't getting rich by selling 7 sterling bushings for A3's......;

Do you work for free? Neither do the firms that make the parts. Nor should they.

[ChatYTB]

eye roll

This company isn't getting rich by selling 7 sterling bushings for A3's......;

Do you work for free? Neither do the firms that make the parts. Nor should they.

But seriously such cheap rubber which manufacturing cost is £1 and they boosting prices way too much which tells me fk it no point or not worth .. You only do it because u wanna satisfy your feelings not that it will be "ok" for your car ..
Ans don't roll eyes that women do ..
I hope audi drivers aren't too narcists like women on Instagram ... But many probably are espec young ones ..

[RMode]

But seriously such cheap rubber which manufacturing cost is £1 and they boosting prices way too much which tells me fk it no point or not worth .. You only do it because u wanna satisfy your feelings not that it will be "ok" for your car ..
Ans don't roll eyes that women do ..
I hope audi drivers aren't too narcists like women on Instagram ... But many probably are espec young ones ..

I happen to have a background in motorsport, so I fully understand what is involved in manufacturing parts on a small and larger scale, and understand the challenges of building a successful business in a very competitive world. While you lament about what women on instagram do.

I encourage anyone who thinks they can do it better than what is offered in the marketplace to put your money where your mouth is and do it. Engineer and manufacture your own parts. You'll absolutely make a fortune if you engineer a better mousetrap.

[Chaoscreature]

OEM aftermarket bushings are pretty cheap, especially since the A3 bushings are shared with a ton of VW cars so they make them en masse.
Aftermarket urethane bushings will of course cost more than their weight in urethane. Companies have a ton of overhead, engineering, marketing etc. to pay for.

949,
Please post some pics when you get your coilovers. I am very curious to see how their camber plates are designed. Would you mind sharing the price point?

I took a gamble on JIC-Magic coilovers for my Porsche a while back and have been very happy with them, despite them not being a major brand.

[twopointohtee]

Should look at KW Coilovers. I did those as many have here once my mag ride shocks gave out at 85k. Love them and the car rides fantastic.


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[993140]

Should look at KW Coilovers.

Which version do you have?

[twopointohtee]

V1’s.


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[twopointohtee]

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...-1021000t.html


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[949]

OEM aftermarket bushings are pretty cheap, especially since the A3 bushings are shared with a ton of VW cars so they make them en masse.
Aftermarket urethane bushings will of course cost more than their weight in urethane. Companies have a ton of overhead, engineering, marketing etc. to pay for.

949,
Please post some pics when you get your coilovers. I am very curious to see how their camber plates are designed. Would you mind sharing the price point?

I took a gamble on JIC-Magic coilovers for my Porsche a while back and have been very happy with them, despite them not being a major brand.

for sure.
I'm only waiting because I'm debating on whether i should go with super low or standard version. because of some past experiences i had. back then i had wanted some super low versions. now that they make them, i feel like i should. the major part is that this is a different car and i had different size wheels before too.

as for the model, I'm going with a two-way system. meaning its got different controls for the rebound and compression. i have had some before and i loved that ability to have them set right with that. more flexibility.

so far i am probably leaning towards the standard because i don't have the smaller wheels i had before, but later i will and then i might need to just sell these.

if you want a deal on them i can get you a set at a discount. its basically no tax and no shipping costs if your in California. or I can get you BC racing coilovers as well. those might be a few dollars cheaper.

[ChatYTB]

I happen to have a background in motorsport, so I fully understand what is involved in manufacturing parts on a small and larger scale, and understand the challenges of building a successful business in a very competitive world. While you lament about what women on instagram do.

I encourage anyone who thinks they can do it better than what is offered in the marketplace to put your money where your mouth is and do it. Engineer and manufacture your own parts. You'll absolutely make a fortune if you engineer a better mousetrap.

I bet they would sell more if they put price down at least £20 or £30
Instacrap was just an example I don't even have fkin account on that zuckerberg sht portal..
But people very rarely change sone bushes .. This is only because I was considering as I can hear in morning bit cracking in front so I believe it will be just rubber on shockers on top as the sound comes from bonnet

[ChatYTB]

OEM aftermarket bushings are pretty cheap, especially since the A3 bushings are shared with a ton of VW cars so they make them en masse.
Aftermarket urethane bushings will of course cost more than their weight in urethane. Companies have a ton of overhead, engineering, marketing etc. to pay for.

949,
Please post some pics when you get your coilovers. I am very curious to see how their camber plates are designed. Would you mind sharing the price point?

I took a gamble on JIC-Magic coilovers for my Porsche a while back and have been very happy with them, despite them not being a major brand.

Do you have link ? For those "cheap" ? Pls share I even will buy original rubber instead of the overpriced polyurethane

[993140]

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/produc...-1021000t.html

Thank you!

[noseyp]

V1’s.


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Just put these (kw v1s) on my 15 s3. They are better than s3 stock mag ride and also better than my 19 RS3 stock magride. Pretty much only pros. No harshness, still takes pot holes with grace.

[Chaoscreature]

Do you have link ? For those "cheap" ? Pls share I even will buy original rubber instead of the overpriced polyurethane

Try googling the part numbers of the bushings you need. RockAuto.com is pretty cheap usually. You can't go wrong with the Febi/Bilstein parts.

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-A3_8V...sion/Bushings/

[Gberg888]

If you are going to do bushings for your control arms up front id look at going with 034 motorsports complete control arm. It has a better/stiffer bushing setup and gives you more adjustability. You will have to remove the arm to change the bushings anyways so might as will put new in. I bet itd be the same or cheaper after everything is set and done. Then you get a fully engineered component from a trusted company oriented to performance instead of piecemeal.

[ChatYTB]

OEM aftermarket bushings are pretty cheap, especially since the A3 bushings are shared with a ton of VW cars so they make them en masse.
Aftermarket urethane bushings will of course cost more than their weight in urethane. Companies have a ton of overhead, engineering, marketing etc. to pay for.

949,
Please post some pics when you get your coilovers. I am very curious to see how their camber plates are designed. Would you mind sharing the price point?

I took a gamble on JIC-Magic coilovers for my Porsche a while back and have been very happy with them, despite them not being a major brand.

That means oem original is just rubber and after market can be rubber too but polyurethane as well so more money

[ChatYTB]

Try googling the part numbers of the bushings you need. RockAuto.com is pretty cheap usually. You can't go wrong with the Febi/Bilstein parts.

https://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-A3_8V...sion/Bushings/

But not in dollars but in euro or £ pounds from Europe
You in amerika?

[ChatYTB]

If you are going to do bushings for your control arms up front id look at going with 034 motorsports complete control arm. It has a better/stiffer bushing setup and gives you more adjustability. You will have to remove the arm to change the bushings anyways so might as will put new in. I bet itd be the same or cheaper after everything is set and done. Then you get a fully engineered component from a trusted company oriented to performance instead of piecemeal.

I think this is investment if someone has car for racing on closed race track road not just driving to work home shops trips..
But when you buying kit even new arms and bars they have bushes already on them fitted

[duffdbub]

How does the car handle since your suspension change? Significantly improved? Are you running fast back roads and has your suspension delivered improved performance? Our initial change was tires involving 245/40/18 tires on Neuspeed RSe10 wheels, which significantly
improved handling performance, now having run 33,416 miles of fast back roads. The suspension has remained stock and has shown
very good performance from our 2019 RS 3 thus far. FWIW.

The car does handle quite a bit better but there is still room for improvement. I still have some body roll that I'd like to eliminate. I think a full proper sport suspension might help with this? And most definitely a rear sway bar.

[RMode]

The car does handle quite a bit better but there is still room for improvement. I still have some body roll that I'd like to eliminate. I think a full proper sport suspension might help with this? And most definitely a rear sway bar.

Some level of body roll is not a bad thing - it helps far more than it hurts. Tire temps dictate where the sweet spot is for the road/track you’re on.


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