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    Active Member Four Rings EvolutionArmory's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection View Post
    Almost all the cables are rebranded ones from other manufacturers or a specific rendition of one. There’s no magic on this platform anymore, there wasn’t from the get go, people just wanted you to think it so they could charge out the ass for it. Even now some charge “credits” to flash shit, which is ridiculous in my opinion, but whatever…
    The solution is simple. Start your own tuning company where you can dictate what pricing is and you’ll quickly find out what the true cost of bringing a product to market and supporting it with technical and customer support is….

    Be the change you want


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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionArmory View Post
    The solution is simple. Start your own tuning company where you can dictate what pricing is and you’ll quickly find out what the true cost of bringing a product to market and supporting it with technical and customer support is….

    Be the change you want


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    I know I'm new here but APR's balls must be touching the ground by now with how hard you seems to be hanging from them...

    No one here appears to be "Bashing" APR to where they need you to defend them (we get it, you are a huge fan).

    This has been a civil discussion from what I see with a good amount of info shared from APR to the consumer so we can make informed decisions.


    Arin, thank you for the info and being open and honest with us here.
    At this time I think I am going to hold out for the flash at home option.
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    I've added: 30% ceramic tint, Vled's 5K fogs and reverse bulbs, Osram CBN HID bulbs, Jackal Motorsports Stage 1 with DSG tune (NGK BKR8EIX plugs @ .026"), APR Carbon Fiber intake and tube, CR-15 brace, EuroCode Alu Kruez and DSG insert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoseRings View Post
    I know I'm new here but APR's balls must be touching the ground by now with how hard you seems to be hanging from them...

    No one here appears to be "Bashing" APR to where they need you to defend them (we get it, you are a huge fan).

    This has been a civil discussion from what I see with a good amount of info shared from APR to the consumer so we can make informed decisions.


    Arin, thank you for the info and being open and honest with us here.
    At this time I think I am going to hold out for the flash at home option.
    It still is a civil discussion. Anything I’ve said can be applied to most of the tuners.

    There is more cost in the cable than just how much it costs to make it. Now you have to offer technical support to the end user and that all comes out of payroll paying an employee for their time supporting the customers instead of doing something that generates more revenue.

    Half the people who complain about how much something costs have probably never brought a product to market before or will never in their entire life

    If you feel that’s antagonistic instead of a fact that’s on you 🤷🏻


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    APR tune [email protected]

    Jackal tune 10.68@129

    stock blower, stock cats, stock suspension.

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    Senior Member Two Rings ThoseRings's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionArmory View Post
    It still is a civil discussion. Anything I’ve said can be applied to most of the tuners.

    There is more cost in the cable than just how much it costs to make it. Now you have to offer technical support to the end user and that all comes out of payroll paying an employee for their time supporting the customers instead of doing something that generates more revenue.

    Half the people who complain about how much something costs have probably never brought a product to market before or will never in their entire life


    If you feel that’s antagonistic instead of a fact that’s on you 🤷🏻


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    Out of curiosity, and other than defending/speaking for APR, what exactly are your posts offering in this thread?
    15' Sepang Blue S4, Prestige, DSG, Black Optics, Nappa, Sport diff, Adaptive suspension, Carbon Atlas, SC badges.
    I've added: 30% ceramic tint, Vled's 5K fogs and reverse bulbs, Osram CBN HID bulbs, Jackal Motorsports Stage 1 with DSG tune (NGK BKR8EIX plugs @ .026"), APR Carbon Fiber intake and tube, CR-15 brace, EuroCode Alu Kruez and DSG insert.

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    Active Member Four Rings EvolutionArmory's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoseRings View Post
    Out of curiosity, and other than defending/speaking for APR, what exactly are your posts offering in this thread?
    Read them, let them sink in.


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    APR tune [email protected]

    Jackal tune 10.68@129

    stock blower, stock cats, stock suspension.

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