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  1. #1
    Junior Member One Ring
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    Estimated cost of maintenance?(carbon cleaning, PCV valve, thermostat and water pump)

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    Hi, I'm going to look at a 110k+ mile S4 and would like to have an idea what the above maintenance would roughly cost, so I can use that in my negotiations.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Mar 31 2008
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    27118
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    eS-4
    Location
    CAL*SO

    what are the specs on the car/ mods/ everything you know because that will paint a better picture. whats the list price?

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    Junior Member One Ring
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    It’s a stock, loaded DSG 2013 S4. They’re asking $19.5 but I’m gonna try to talk them down.

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    Junior Member One Ring
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    Mar 01 2020
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    PA

    I just spent 3500 on all of that plus crossover coolant pipe, coolant pipe next to pcv valve, valve cover gaskets, oil filter housing gasket, spark plugs, both belts, accessory pulley, oil flush, oil change, and air duct behind the bumper cover on the drivers side (fell apart removing bumper to get into service position). This cost was for parts and labor. My pcv valve failed and mixed coolant into the oil.

  5. #5
    Established Member Two Rings
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    Mar 06 2019
    AZ Member #
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    Indiana

    I spent $700 in labor/carbon cleaning +parts


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  6. #6
    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Mar 31 2008
    AZ Member #
    27118
    My Garage
    eS-4
    Location
    CAL*SO

    it cost me $1100 in 2021 for all that stuff you listed.

    That car isnt worth more than $10k.

    fk the pcv maintenance repairs lol, you've got other stuff to worry about.

    its an automatic, so you've now gotta worry about dsg services.
    its still probably on oem cats.
    original suspension components (youll probably be ok here)

    lets talk about modding it because im sure you will.
    your gonna need to decide what to do about injectors, replace (almost $1k) or send them to get cleaned; maybe $300? (id never do this with this car, but folks have. consider what exactly you are looking out of the car)
    lets add all that pcv stuff you listed...
    btw, did i mention its an automatic. they do NOT command value like a 6mt would. not.... even... close...

    go ahead and start looking for something else.

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Aug 08 2018
    AZ Member #
    423880
    Location
    CT

    Labor prices vary widely based on shop. I was quoted from $1000-2500 for just labor for tstat, PCV with the necessary hoses and gaskets.

    DSG full service prob cost close to $1000 last month. VW oil is expensive
    2016 S4 P+ Ibis White | DSG | Nappa leather interior | Technology Package | Sports Diff | Black Optics | CR-15

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Sep 22 2015
    AZ Member #
    357151
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    21 Q7, 21 X7
    Location
    Nashville, TN

    Agree w above. I wouldn’t pay more than $15k out the door on that car preferably with some service records. If DSG not maintained could be a disaster.

    FWIW my car at 145k and I’m being offered $10k right now… before anyone knows I have a SAI light on.
    Sold: 2014 S4 | EPL Stage 2 + TCU | ECS Intake | CR15 | 034Motorsport RSB | ECS Trans/Diff Inserts | Mr. Spectacular's 10" Subwoofer Box w/10w6

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    Veteran Member Three Rings BucDan's Avatar
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    San Diego, CA

    19.5K is too much. Even I wouldn't expect to get 19.5k for my car with almost 88K miles. There's a shop my friend is taking his VW GTI in for carbon cleaning in the Huntington Beach area, apparently they charge $400 flat rate for it, so maybe an S4 isn't far off. I'd say all in would be at least $1500 for parts and labor for SoCal nowadays, assuming you get the flat rate charge for carbon cleaning, then the parts are all right there and you don't get charged excess labor rates. The injectors would need cleaning for sure.

    But I'd look elsewhere because that's a high price for that car, for $19.5, might as well get a B9 with a downpayment.
    2013 S4 6MT mods:
    APR intake backpipe w/ modded stock airbox, AFE Air Filter, CTS 187mm crank, APR 57mm charger, APR HX, Stasis Catback, CR-15, 034 Stage 2+/034 Stage 1 CARB

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    Senior Member Four Rings
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    Jun 08 2021
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    PA

    It seems in my area you’re not touching a b8.5 with decent mileage and condition for less than 19k. I paid 20k from a dealer with 80k had fresh service new tires pads and rotors coolant pipes. That was the best deal I coul find. B9s are over 30 unless they have 100k.

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    Established Member Two Rings SpeedyG's Avatar
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    2022 M3 6 spd manual M Performance specs
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    SO-CALI, CA

    I sold my 2014 with 82K miles to a wholesaler last August for $16,900. The price with that > 100K mileage is way too high and the service you are looking for is around $2000. I would look for a B9, as the B8.5 if not well maintained, is a money pit. I maintained mine meticulously and even did a lot of preventative and it still needed constant upkeep every 3 or 4 months. Don't buy it. I would never buy a German car with over 100K miles unless I was a German car mechanic. Look for something with 25K miles or less

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    Senior Member Four Rings
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    Jun 08 2021
    AZ Member #
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    PA

    Just got an estimate on this job with all the suggested items from the shop. All extra items were optional but they strongly suggested it all be done. 2013 S4 118K
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