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    TT RS built motor, turbo vs KA24 turbo Civic
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    TT with an 800-1000 pound disadvantage. This Civic had a sequential on that run. They were about even, but kinda looks like the Civic might have pulled higher up? Not sure if I'd want to do 180 in a Civic, lol.

    Nowadays a left-over Civic with flex is likely to be a monster, lots of power and beer can weight. This Civic beats a Plaid and raced one of the faster B58 Supras, reeled him in fast.
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    RS 3 FBO E85 vs 2009 C6 Corvette Z06 FBO Heads/Cam 93
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    This weekend i got the chance to run a built MK4 Supra. The car made 4 digits but we ran on his mid boost level. He said he made 4 digits on around 36psi. We ran on 30-31psi. He got me by about 2 cars. His trans was messing up and we could only do a 60 roll. So not my best speed. The video was trash tho

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    TTRS IMS1000, RS3's vs 1K HP 'Stang
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    Check out that old school B5 S4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    TTRS IMS1000, RS3's vs 1K HP 'Stang
    https://youtu.be/bhRJGRcqPp0?t=130

    Check out that old school B5 S4.
    All things withstanding, I'm not surprised by the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8STTRS View Post
    All things withstanding, I'm not surprised by the results.
    Against that TTRS I'm thinking better power to weight, mid range torque (more area under the curve), quicker boost, drive train efficiency? The Mustang kinda looked like once it got going it held the gap better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    TTRS IMS1000, RS3's vs 1K HP 'Stang
    https://youtu.be/bhRJGRcqPp0?t=130

    Check out that old school B5 S4.
    The cage in that TTRS is pretty sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemounlio View Post
    The cage in that TTRS is pretty sweet.
    Yeah it is! Not sure 'bout putting a hole in the body for the chute though. Chassis stiffening must be nice.
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    My run with the 1000+hp supra We did 60 rolls as his trans is having issues. He said he was running 30-31psi. He made the 1000whp on 36. Im not built either just tte700 on e85 stock block

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    TTRS 1200 HP vs R8 1500 HP
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    At least the TTRS got to boost faster =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemounlio View Post
    My run with the 1000+hp supra We did 60 rolls as his trans is having issues. He said he was running 30-31psi. He made the 1000whp on 36. Im not built either just tte700 on e85 stock block

    https://youtu.be/iBJmIdswbqQ
    You did great, honestly. It makes me curious how close a race would be between myself and a built MKIV in my area. He makes around 1100whp and I'm around 800whp but, my car weighs about 3100lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8STTRS View Post
    You did great, honestly. It makes me curious how close a race would be between myself and a built MKIV in my area. He makes around 1100whp and I'm around 800whp but, my car weighs about 3100lbs.
    The supra was brake boosting on me hard as well. At this time i cant brake boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post

    Good looking runs there!

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    TTRS vs 360 track footage
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    TTRS (900HP) vs BMW 1000RR
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    When the bike gives the hit, it's a little more even. Seems around 140-150 the TT starts to gain a tad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    TTRS (900HP) vs BMW 1000RR
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    When the bike gives the hit, it's a little more even. Seems around 140-150 the TT starts to gain a tad.

    When i run bikes i start to pull on them at 150 as well. Takes to much hp to overcome the aero at that point i guess.

    Are you 900 wheel or crank? I would think at 900 wheel you would have done a bit better. I raced my old 2015 s1000rr and we were much closer. He then tuned and slight mods and got me a bit more but still close. Im only 670 wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemounlio View Post
    When i run bikes i start to pull on them at 150 as well. Takes to much hp to overcome the aero at that point i guess.

    Are you 900 wheel or crank? I would think at 900 wheel you would have done a bit better. I raced my old 2015 s1000rr and we were much closer. He then tuned and slight mods and got me a bit more but still close. Im only 670 wheel.
    Not sure how this particular TT was built. I'm still at junior levels with the stock turbo/block, I can only pick on 600cc crotch rockets, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    Not sure how this particular TT was built. I'm still at junior levels with the stock turbo/block, I can only pick on 600cc crotch rockets, lol.
    Im on a tte700 e85 file. I can easily run with 1000cc bikes as long as they are not to modified or the rider is not 120lbs...They light weight guys are quick. I have ran with tuned gsxr1000 and lost. But i have ran with that same bike but a heavy rider 200lbs. and leave him. Its always touchy with bikes.

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    Be really careful when racing against bikes. I tend to really not engage bikes too often but, I have raced a couple of them. I usually insist on there being a lane between us if we do run. I have some buddies with liter bikes that I've ran with before so, I know where my car stands with most liter bikes in my area. I know my car isn't the fastest but, I haven't had too much trouble with most of the competition I've come across in my area but, I'm still searching for more. Any sub 1000whp Mustangs, Camaros or Chargers/Challengers that are full weight or near full weight is basically a slaughter. There's a couple of 1100+whp Mustangs in my area with some weight reduction that are apparently right there with me on their 60-130 but, we just haven't had the chance to run our cars yet. I really need to get a full frame if I'm going to keep messing with the bigger fish. Sure, my 60-130 being in the 4's means I'm fairly quick but, it really needs to be in the 3's for me to stay ahead of some of these folks. However, there's always someone faster.
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    TTRS MK2 vs I have no idea, but proof you can make a telephone box fast =) They get to about 130MPH
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    TTRS vs Nurburging driven by Misha Charoudin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    TTRS vs Nurburging driven by Misha Charoudin
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    I want to know what all mods to make it handle better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemounlio View Post
    I want to know what all mods to make it handle better?
    Speaking with the owner, the car used to have an air ride suspension on it--I know, I know. But he has since switched to KW Clubsport coilovers on the vehicle. He didn't get into much else about the suspension setup but suffice to say, I'm sure some of the typical things were taken care of that are commonly addressed on the MQB chassis. Really the biggest thing he did to improve his handling/lap times, was get a set of Cup 2's on the car.
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    Great Nurburgring lap in a KTM Crossbow GT2. 2310 pounds with our favorite Audi 5 cylinder, 600 HP stock, this one with about 700 HP on 102 octane. Great smooth driving (bro only has one arm), nearing 190MPH at parts, Misha is lulled to sleep after a few laps, lol. If you could put me to sleep on a race track, in this car you're doing pretty good =) Best sounds I've heard of the DAZA ("happy hippo" - Clarkson) combined with sequential transmission whine, very proper! The engine start up is awesome, how they change the sound so much? I want it!

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    TTRS (turbo, built) vs various -
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    TTRS (turbo, built) vs various -
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    So do we know whos ttrs this is and what the build is on it

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    I'm not too sure on every single component his car has but, he has one of the first JDY 6870 kits with a .81 A/R. So, it's a pretty decent turbo but, it probably doesn't make that much steam in the scheme of things. If I had to guess, he probably makes somewhere between 800whp-850whp. It's been a while since I've spoken to him so, I don't exactly recall the power numbers. A larger A/R and a little more supporting mods and the 6870 can surpass 1kwhp on the DAZA. It's essentially capable of performing just like the IMS950R or so--again, with the right supporting mods.
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    TTRS with TTE700 E85, dyno -
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    Conversion is 607 whp and approx. 480 wtq. The graph is interesting, looks like it has the stock short bloc with that torque line. Kinda looks laggy (vs stock) unless you're spending all your time over 4K rpm, prolly another 60-80 whp extra up top. Think this might get high 9's in a TTRS on the street?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    TTRS with TTE700 E85, dyno -
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    Conversion is 607 whp and approx. 480 wtq. The graph is interesting, looks like it has the stock short bloc with that torque line. Kinda looks laggy (vs stock) unless you're spending all your time over 4K rpm, prolly another 60-80 whp extra up top. Think this might get high 9's in a TTRS on the street?

    i made 667 and 498. I have been a best of 10.0 on the street. All dyno are different tho so my 667 may be your 607... I dont see 9's tho. I am gutted and that was no passengers seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemounlio View Post
    i made 667 and 498. I have been a best of 10.0 on the street. All dyno are different tho so my 667 may be your 607... I dont see 9's tho. I am gutted and that was no passengers seat.
    It think it was a Dynojet, those generally read "higher" vs others like Mustang. Low 10's is cooking for street tires. I've seen vids of others with a stock turbo (S2 E85) just crack into 9's but always running slicks, one had full interior (outlier probably).

    Did you know the weight of your TTRS? I shaved mine down to 3240 pounds, full interior, full tank of E85, even this smallish amount is noticeable. You're maybe around 3100 or under? That power to weight has to be a hoot!
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    The elephant in the room is that our cars can't launch worth a damn compared to other AWD cars. It's what holds back so many of us from putting down better and better times with progressively more power. For instance, all of my times have been on the street, on street tires, completely unprepped and in positive DA. My launch just isn't impressive when you compare it to RWD-based AWD vehicles like the G8X twins. That launch will cause my 1/4 ET to be extremely similar, or in many cases, slower than a comparably powered vehicle.

    For example, I have ran a 6.2@~120 1/8th mile on the street, followed up with a 9.5@~150 1/4--this is with a 1.6 60'. My 60-130 is usually in the 4.4-4.6 range. My 1/8 and 1/4 trap speeds indicate my car is capable of a much faster ET than the numbers suggest. My 60-130 also indicates that my car is capable of a MUCH faster E/T than the numbers suggest. It literally all boils down to that launch. For instance, the G8X twins will cut a low 1.5 60' and pull off a faster 1/8 but a similar 1/4 and a slower 60-130 (usually a 5-6 sec time). Our cars with our FWD-based AWD system will no-kidding drag race very similarly to a well-prepped (but not fully prepped) FWD car. Look at how Honda's go down the track. They put down abysmal 60's and then have some of the obscenest back-half times with tremendous traps--just like us. If we can figure out a way that isn't just brute forcing the software controlling the Haldex, then we might start putting down times that are much, much better.

    The other part of it comes down to advertisement nomenclature when it comes to our performance parts. Many of our products come from Europe and with that, their naming conventions are completely out of whack for American customers. But this is why you'll notice that a TTE700 seems to put down 1/4 times that really aren't that far off from a TTE777 or even my TC800/870XT. My TC800XT is putting down times that are very similar to the TTE855--context withstanding that the cars are equipped similarly and weigh a similar amount. The IMS780HS hybrid will perform nearly identical to the TC800/870XT and TTE855 but, Iroz markets their products for American customers so the naming convention actually makes sense.
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    Good points, I've seen the hook up ability of the new bimmers, impressive. I still consider the TT a FWD car that just so happens to use the rear wheels once in a while, like an old AWD civic wagon. Luckily I get my ya-yas on rolls, only three launches on the counter so far. It kinda sounds like the Supras and 300ZX TTs in the 90s, joke was what's in common with 300HP and 600HP? 12s =) They just weren't made for drag racing.

    Have you run into any problems with drive shaft, rear axles or the rear haldex running the 9s?

    From your experience does switching to a larger hybrid impact regular drivability? It might make boost a bit later, but is it really noticeable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    Good points, I've seen the hook up ability of the new bimmers, impressive. I still consider the TT a FWD car that just so happens to use the rear wheels once in a while, like an old AWD civic wagon. Luckily I get my ya-yas on rolls, only three launches on the counter so far. It kinda sounds like the Supras and 300ZX TTs in the 90s, joke was what's in common with 300HP and 600HP? 12s =) They just weren't made for drag racing.

    Have you run into any problems with drive shaft, rear axles or the rear haldex running the 9s?

    From your experience does switching to a larger hybrid impact regular drivability? It might make boost a bit later, but is it really noticeable?
    My case may not be the best to use because I apparently had a boost leak prior to doing the build so, there's that. But my car has always felt very lazy on the low end compared to my wife's car. Her car is very snappy and has great throttle response in general. Anyhow, I haven't had a single hiccup with the car since getting it back that has been a reliability issue. The only thing to ever pop up was the adjustable Hobbs switch I had on my secondary fuel pump. That was an idiot design choice and I rectified that to prevent it from being a problem in the future. I haven't done too many dig runs but, I do have quite a few 40-185+ pulls. Yes, if you just floor it in gear, it can certainly take a moment for boost to hit and your car to actually do something but, I do have the new RAL file from Darin so, that has been a huge help--not to mention his shift tune to shift at 7800 on the dot every time.

    The long pulls I do seem to maintain a bit over half a G during the acceleration all the way up til about 180 so, the car has legs for sure. On the launch, it's a bit over 1G but then I spin pretty bad right when the car shifts to 60 so, there's that, too. Drivability withstanding, I drive it every day for the most part on full E85. I have no qualms about doing so as I really overbuilt the car to handle the power I was looking to make. It is generally more laggy than the stock turbo but, not painfully so. Besides, when the boost hits, it's pretty obscene and you don't necessarily mind the wait. During normal traffic, I just putt around anyhow, and the boost threshold isn't something I spend too much time worrying about. The only thing you need to get used to is modulating your throttle, ironically. If you give it half throttle to suddenly merge into traffic, you'll be going nowhere, then suddenly teleporting and needing to get off of the throttle. The car does seem to get a little upset when that happens, probably because it was ramping up fuel, timing, etc., and you suddenly pop off. But, if you can predict that it's going to do that, then it's much more manageable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    It think it was a Dynojet, those generally read "higher" vs others like Mustang. Low 10's is cooking for street tires. I've seen vids of others with a stock turbo (S2 E85) just crack into 9's but always running slicks, one had full interior (outlier probably).

    Did you know the weight of your TTRS? I shaved mine down to 3240 pounds, full interior, full tank of E85, even this smallish amount is noticeable. You're maybe around 3100 or under? That power to weight has to be a hoot!
    Im at 3185 when i pull the exhaust off. I plan to add a light weight battery, smaller brakes at some point, lighter seats and be close to 3050lbs without driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemounlio View Post
    Im at 3185 when i pull the exhaust off. I plan to add a light weight battery, smaller brakes at some point, lighter seats and be close to 3050lbs without driver.
    I'm using the 60Ah AntiGravity, I keep a tender on it all the time, but have not had any problems with it.
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    TTRS with marshmallow roaster
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/POpY3o24MOs
    2019 TT RS - S2E85 034 Motorsport - If you're gonna go, you gotta whoa!

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    TTRS (1000 whp) vs 1/4 mile

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFseH0TpCIA

    Mighty mouse!
    2019 TT RS - S2E85 034 Motorsport - If you're gonna go, you gotta whoa!

  40. #160
    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    TTRS vs whuuups (drag racer lost control and smacked the tiTTy)

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yuRlphUMzBE
    2019 TT RS - S2E85 034 Motorsport - If you're gonna go, you gotta whoa!

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