TTRS vs -

[DrMerl]

TTRS vs car meet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWubu2iTE7w

Nice to see a collection of tiTTys. For a few years I only saw one or two TTs on the roads in SoCal. Now this year I've seen six, couple modded, but so far no one else with a full AP aero kit. I think the TTRS will go the way of tuner cars like GTRs, if you see a stock one it'll be like whaaat? lol

[DrMerl]

Audi RS3 FBO E85 vs 2018 Ferrari 488 GTB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-1L_4fSR8E

Prancing Horse got the herspers and less weight, must be a S1+ E85 DAZA with that 60-130. Good run for a few bolt-ons.

[mikemounlio]

2017 ZL1 cammed, intake, full exhaust, lower pulley, E85 and full weight vs my TTRS TTE700 E85

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFCwscrYUWo

[8STTRS]

2017 ZL1 cammed, intake, full exhaust, lower pulley, E85 and full weight vs my TTRS TTE700 E85

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFCwscrYUWo

E85 in this case for the ZL1 is a slight misrepresentation, as a ZL1 without having significant fueling upgrades can't run full E85. He was likely on E30-50 or thereabouts. Pullies will just make the fuel demand that much greater for the DI system and likely force him onto the lower spectrum for available fuel. Nonetheless, I'm not too surprised by the results, given I used to own a ZL1 1LE. Most folks don't realize that to properly run full E85 on an LTx car, it could cost upwards of $15k+ in mods that will support that fuel delivery properly. It's their Achilles Tendon, unfortunately.

[DrMerl]

TTRS being chased by Porsche on track -
https://youtu.be/nJSrgQBfnJ4?t=76

[mikemounlio]

E85 in this case for the ZL1 is a slight misrepresentation, as a ZL1 without having significant fueling upgrades can't run full E85. He was likely on E30-50 or thereabouts. Pullies will just make the fuel demand that much greater for the DI system and likely force him onto the lower spectrum for available fuel. Nonetheless, I'm not too surprised by the results, given I used to own a ZL1 1LE. Most folks don't realize that to properly run full E85 on an LTx car, it could cost upwards of $15k+ in mods that will support that fuel delivery properly. It's their Achilles Tendon, unfortunately.

He was on the same fuel as i was! we both filled up at a pump that read e70-e72. His car dynoed 720whp. What all he has done to run E85 i cant say. I know he ran 93 for a long while and talked about going to E85 so i assume he has the supporting mods to back it.

[8STTRS]

He was on the same fuel as i was! we both filled up at a pump that read e70-e72. His car dynoed 720whp. What all he has done to run E85 i cant say. I know he ran 93 for a long while and talked about going to E85 so i assume he has the supporting mods to back it.

Copy that. I'd be really interested to know how he ran that much E in his car and what his fuel mods were. That was one of the biggest reasons why I never bothered to pursue E on my LTx cars.

[mikemounlio]

Copy that. I'd be really interested to know how he ran that much E in his car and what his fuel mods were. That was one of the biggest reasons why I never bothered to pursue E on my LTx cars.

I asked the question and was told:

Low side fuel system, his cam is set to 38% more on the fuel lobe to overdrive the high side. His tuner reviewed the logs and said he is good to run full e. Which he does.

[DrMerl]

Built Audi RS3 E85 vs 2020 Toyota Supra PT6870 Turbo 117R Fuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7XuL_rB8U

Wow, I've seen that Supra many times. First question, how fast do you want to go? Second question, how big is your wallet? =)

[DrMerl]

TTRS stock block, TTE700 vs BMW S1000RR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJloBuHoIY

[DrMerl]

TTRS TTE700 vs Supra Pure800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3CTN4cuPc

I've seen other Supra Pure800s and they are usually very fast, what happened with this one? Needs Driver mod? The B58/S85 usually has a wallop of torque low/mid range, but the DAZA matches and has better lungs.

[mikemounlio]

TTRS TTE700 vs Supra Pure800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3CTN4cuPc

I've seen other Supra Pure800s and they are usually very fast, what happened with this one? Needs Driver mod? The B58/S85 usually has a wallop of torque low/mid range, but the DAZA matches and has better lungs.

This is the exact battle i have been wanting to see.

[8STTRS]

TTRS TTE700 vs Supra Pure800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3CTN4cuPc

I've seen other Supra Pure800s and they are usually very fast, what happened with this one? Needs Driver mod? The B58/S85 usually has a wallop of torque low/mid range, but the DAZA matches and has better lungs.

In the comments they were talking about going full frame just to beat a TTE700 TT RS. A Xona 10569, which is equivalent to the IMS1100 (https://irozmotorsport.com/product/ims1100/) or a PT6870, which seems more reasonable. I've told a lot of folks that many MKV's, not all of them, need a full frame to compete with the hybrids on these platforms. I think a 6870 would still be relatively competitive with my TC800XT car but, I think I'd still beat it. Now a 6870 on my car would bring it to a different level yet again.

[DrMerl]

In the comments they were talking about going full frame just to beat a TTE700 TT RS. A Xona 10569, which is equivalent to the IMS1100 (https://irozmotorsport.com/product/ims1100/) or a PT6870, which seems more reasonable. I've told a lot of folks that many MKV's, not all of them, need a full frame to compete with the hybrids on these platforms. I think a 6870 would still be relatively competitive with my TC800XT car but, I think I'd still beat it. Now a 6870 on my car would bring it to a different level yet again.

Something(s) pretty sweet about the DAZA, a great heat pump! =) Nice to hear there's a mid step with a hybrid to tangle with with some of the street stars before going to a build. Even the stock turbo with all the goodies is spicy enough to play with 95% of the random car encounters, but there's always a bigger fish.

How is the power curve with the larger turbos? While I like the torque of the stock turbo, sometimes it's goofy to modulate the torque when I don't need it all, it's kinda like a light switch. Does the slightly delayed boost curve of the hybrids make the overall power delivery curve smoother? More drivable?

[8STTRS]

Something(s) pretty sweet about the DAZA, a great heat pump! =) Nice to hear there's a mid step with a hybrid to tangle with with some of the street stars before going to a build. Even the stock turbo with all the goodies is spicy enough to play with 95% of the random car encounters, but there's always a bigger fish.

How is the power curve with the larger turbos? While I like the torque of the stock turbo, sometimes it's goofy to modulate the torque when I don't need it all, it's kinda like a light switch. Does the slightly delayed boost curve of the hybrids make the overall power delivery curve smoother? More drivable?

So, I have a TC800XT and my wife has a TTE855. I find the spool on those to be pretty much identical. There is the slightest bit more lag than with the stock turbo but, nothing at all that would detract from enjoyable street driving. There was someone on Facebook that showed the difference in spool/power production of a TC800XT vs the IMS850. Basically throughout 90% of the powerband, the TX800XT was able to spool quicker and produce power sooner than the IMS850. But, the IMS850 carried better up top whereas the TX800XT starts to fall off around 130-140mph in comparison. Now, all of this is largely moot with a simple downshift or using RAL if you're concerned with the lag of a full frame. The power will hit very similarly to a positive displacement supercharged V8--I should know, I've owned a few. But, for those out there that don't want to use RAL, the hybrids will still offer far better daily driving characteristics and immediacy in torque delivery.

But, this is all on the upper echolons of things for these cars. If I'm trapping in the low 150's, per se, in the quarter mile, the IMS850 may carry a bit better and get into the mid to upper 150's on equal setups. But there are extremes for every case. There was a guy I know trapping in the 160's with his TC800XT and running mid 8's. But that's not for everyone, you know? Same goes for the IMS850, those can be pushed really, really hard to make power but, you'll be looking at reducing the lifespan of the turbo to make those figures.

[DrMerl]

TTRS built vs 1/4
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JU3fJtdwGAM

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So, I have a TC800XT and my wife has a TTE855. I find the spool on those to be pretty much identical. There is the slightest bit more lag than with the stock turbo but, nothing at all that would detract from enjoyable street driving. There was someone on Facebook that showed the difference in spool/power production of a TC800XT vs the IMS850. Basically throughout 90% of the powerband, the TX800XT was able to spool quicker and produce power sooner than the IMS850. But, the IMS850 carried better up top whereas the TX800XT starts to fall off around 130-140mph in comparison. Now, all of this is largely moot with a simple downshift or using RAL if you're concerned with the lag of a full frame. The power will hit very similarly to a positive displacement supercharged V8--I should know, I've owned a few. But, for those out there that don't want to use RAL, the hybrids will still offer far better daily driving characteristics and immediacy in torque delivery.

But, this is all on the upper echolons of things for these cars. If I'm trapping in the low 150's, per se, in the quarter mile, the IMS850 may carry a bit better and get into the mid to upper 150's on equal setups. But there are extremes for every case. There was a guy I know trapping in the 160's with his TC800XT and running mid 8's. But that's not for everyone, you know? Same goes for the IMS850, those can be pushed really, really hard to make power but, you'll be looking at reducing the lifespan of the turbo to make those figures.

Great info, thank you!

[mtwallace85]

There was a guy I know trapping in the 160's with his TC800XT and running mid 8's.

I’m assuming you’re talking about PJ in Canada? He definitely set the bar high for hybrids, but it was because his car was a literal tin can. He also had a low 9 second stock turbo 1/4 mile.

[8STTRS]

I’m assuming you’re talking about PJ in Canada? He definitely set the bar high for hybrids, but it was because his car was a literal tin can. He also had a low 9 second stock turbo 1/4 mile.

Yup. I normally don't put folks' names out there or anything but yeah. He and I discussed his setup on a few occasions but, that's absolutely not my bag. His car was completely stripped and that was his claim to fame. Good on him for achieving that but, I'd rather have my interior, or at least most of it, and do well. I can understand doing a rear seat delete or aftermarket seats but, not taking out panels, wires, carpeting, etc.

[mtwallace85]

I normally don't put folks' names out there or anything but yeah.

I don’t either, he’s putting that name out there himself, it’s his IG handle.

[DrMerl]

TTRS TTE700 vs 2008-10 ZX10R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgGJ-hkFbSs

Once the TT got up on keel, reeled the crotch rocket in.

[mikemounlio]

TTRS TTE700 vs 2008-10 ZX10R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgGJ-hkFbSs

Once the TT got up on keel, reeled the crotch rocket in.

The guy let out as i was coming around at like 135. We talked about a 140-160 run. It was clear tho that he had no more so he called it. I also ran a few gsxr 1000 but started to heat soak bad.

Once it cooled off i ran a yamaha mt09 from a dig. Ill have that video up soon.

[DrMerl]

The guy let out as i was coming around at like 135. We talked about a 140-160 run. It was clear tho that he had no more so he called it. I also ran a few gsxr 1000 but started to heat soak bad.

Once it cooled off i ran a yamaha mt09 from a dig. Ill have that video up soon.

Yep, saw that, the bike didn't have the top end, good run!

[mikemounlio]

me vs a Yamaha MT-09 from a dig. The bike actually did well. The kid was pretty good at launching it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bGl_W0K4PVk

[mikemounlio]

me vs my old 2015 BMW s1000rr. The bike just got flashed to a bren tune stage 1+. Bike has slip-op and mirrors have been removed.

this was a 40 roll. I believe he may have shifted early a time or to as normally he pulls on me a bit. In this race i pulled past him at 150.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bzkFkmyks3E

[mikemounlio]

Me vs a 2013 ZX10 from a dig. The bike is stretched lowered and built to 190+ wheel hp. The bike gave me the hit. I bogged after the launch. He was at my front bumper the entire race. At 150 i cam around him and let out at 160.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ttgtYghqI

[mikemounlio]

Also ran a new gen ZL1 from a dig. Gave him a car plus the hit. Came around him before his 60ft.

[DrMerl]

This is with the TTE700? If so, stock block or drop in kit? 93 or E85?

[DrMerl]

TTRS vs Hurracan, 335i, YZF
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xctNsfYBRrQ

Doesn't say mods, but Kermit for the win =)

[Loe]

TTRS vs Hurracan, 335i, YZF
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xctNsfYBRrQ

Doesn't say mods, but Kermit for the win =)

Nice!!! It takes a bit of power to over come areo in the 3/4 rear area and that TTRS definitely has the power to over come that and quickly get in front.

[mikemounlio]

This is with the TTE700? If so, stock block or drop in kit? 93 or E85?

stock block e85

[DrMerl]

TTRS TTE700 E60 vs RS3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LCqMmjJ0iw

What's up with that power loss around 104? Then it surges back.

[DrMerl]

TTRS TTE700 E60 OTS VS Mustang ESS G3x Blower E70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLwl9UJreI

Always a bigger fish. Coyote engines seem to love the boost. The ESS G3x is a half snail type of blower like a classic Vortech.

[8STTRS]

TTRS TTE700 E60 OTS VS Mustang ESS G3x Blower E70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLwl9UJreI

Always a bigger fish. Coyote engines seem to love the boost. The ESS G3x is a half snail type of blower like a classic Vortech.

The Mustang is quick for sure but, that's also the smallest hybrid turbo on the market, I believe. Nonetheless, good for him on the win.

[DrMerl]

TTRS, various vs RACE 1000 event 1/2 mile in Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko2bDwvVVFc

[DrMerl]

Built 2018 Audi RS3 PT6870 Turbo vs Built 2020 Toyota Supra PT6870 Turbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duRB_t6w2ms

[DrMerl]

TTRS TC870XT hybrid vs record 1/4 and 1/2 mile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAq4UjAJ43c

[8STTRS]

While I do have this on video and it isn't a TT RS, I will just generally toss this out there. In a recent encounter in Mexico, a particular built RS3 w/ a TTE855 on its base map (maybe 740whp?), raced an MKV Supra with a hybrid making around 750whp (+/- some, I'm not super sure on the exact amount, nor are they). There was about a 6+ car gap between the cars by the time the race was shut down from a 50-130 race--in the RS3's favor. I'm quite familiar with the RS3 and the Supra in question. I'll refrain from posting the video online because it's really hard to see based upon the perspective and really, neither party wants that to be online (which I completely respect).

[DrMerl]

TT RS vs all generations TT RS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw5BbQsCDJw

The "tiTTy - ass" - yes she does have a bit of a bum =)

[DrMerl]

TTRS vs es850 911 turbo s, twin turbo mustang, bmw g80 ,gt 500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaVL6tBDcUE

Is this FBO with E85 and stock turbo or a hybrid? End of vid shows a 9.7@149

[mikemounlio]

TTRS vs es850 911 turbo s, twin turbo mustang, bmw g80 ,gt 500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaVL6tBDcUE

Is this FBO with E85 and stock turbo or a hybrid? End of vid shows a 9.7@149

If he is really making 800-850 i would guess he is built motor.