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    Anyone have a part # and source for this?

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    As title says, I’m looking to replace these ties along the firewall. Thanks
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    FWIW-
    I have used these folks when looking for odd cabling ties and such...
    The only issue is you need to purchase in quantity
    https://www.waytekwire.com/products/...ng-Cable-Ties/
    I started by emailing the company requesting samples for test work--implying I'm an engineer working on a project....
    YEAH- I know----shame on me....

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    I broke all of those things many moons ago, they're so damn brittle.

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    Man I spent a ton of time just a couple days ago looking for these exact ones for my restoration. I couldn't find them in any parts diagrams and searching every variation of "cable tie" you could think of came up empty. Closest I found were reusable cable ties that go on a threaded stud like that, but not the zip tie style.

    Part #8D0971850C
    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...ch/8d0971850c/

    Next closest was a zip tie style, but they're the ones that stick into a sheet metal hole instead of screw on a stud.

    Part #1K0971818
    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...rap/1k0971818/

    I'll let ya know if I ever find the right part number for the exact one we're both looking for. Suspect they are NLA. LJS may have a decent replacement there too.

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    Hey guy's, I think I can help you :) was in the same situation, as I needed those for my RS6.
    Even though I don't know if you can order them in US, but at least you have part numbers

    cheers

    https://nemigaparts.com/de/cat_spare...el/198/979100/
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    Thanks guys- wow I thought they’d be out there somewhere and that I just could search right…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd View Post
    Hey guy's, I think I can help you :) was in the same situation, as I needed those for my RS6.
    Even though I don't know if you can order them in US, but at least you have part numbers

    cheers

    https://nemigaparts.com/de/cat_spare...el/198/979100/
    Thanks this is awesome!

    I think #7 is as close as I'm going to get

    Part #
    N90357101

    About 71 cents each

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    Thanks for the part#.
    eBay for 1.20 each.

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    ^ Great seller too, last time I ordered from them I got my part from Latvia to USA faster than some domestic shipments.

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    Got some bad news on part N90357101. I got a bag of them last week and finally took one out to check fitment. The cap style end that should screw onto a threaded stud is much bigger than most of the threaded studs that require these on a B5. A pic below shows one of the original cable ties "cap" type end that fits (slightly different style of tie) next to N90357101. It's too big to thread on. So the search continues for this exact zip tie style that fits a B5. At least they were cheap to give a try.

    I also got some of part 1K0971818. These are the green ones pictured and clip into a body hole with the zip tie style of tie. They do fit.

    I'll be ordering 8D0971850C next. These are marked for a B5 and should fit the threaded studs. The tie style is not a zip tie though, they're more a reusable ladder rung looking type of tie (the one I'm comparing to in my pic).

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    hey Belms-
    I got my order of the ties also and they're too big to fit the posts like you said. How did you make out with the new order? Actually I would like to get some of the ladder style and some of the zip tie style. Which did you end up with?

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    8D0971850C appears to be what you want. Number 11 from the link above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmh800 View Post
    hey Belms-
    I got my order of the ties also and they're too big to fit the posts like you said. How did you make out with the new order? Actually I would like to get some of the ladder style and some of the zip tie style. Which did you end up with?
    Yeah they fit some of the posts, but very few around the engine bay are that size (if any). The green ones I pictured work great, but they fit into holes and won't help with any posts. I've tried a bunch now and still haven't found any from Audi that fit these posts. Closest I've found are some zip ties on Amazon that have 1 end meant for putting screws through to mount to something.

    Black Zip Ties with Screw Holes-... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HR9BTRJ

    If I drill the hole a tiny bit larger they fit the threaded posts. Best I've found yet. Would love to find a replacement from Audi that are either style (zip or ladder) and fit the threaded B5 posts but I've kinda given up looking for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauromj View Post
    8D0971850C appears to be what you want. Number 11 from the link above.
    I tried those too. The post end was too big unfortunately and would just slip over the studs without threads biting at all.

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    You could 3D print small inserts to lessen the ID on those.
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    True. I don't have a 3d printer or access to one though. Tried the cheap and dirty version of that wrapping a couple layers of tape around a post and even then the cap part of the wire tie was too big. For my purposes I'm good with the ties from Amazon since I'm retying all the wiring under the carpets where the ties broke removing them and nobody is going to see those.

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    Late update on this but I finally found suitable factory replacements for these cable ties that are in the style of the originals. Since Audi sucks at maintaining parts for any of their classics I actually found the right size ties from BMW. Had a friend with a 335 measure the threaded post size for these ties on his car. Same 5mm size the B5s use!

    So ordered 10 of each of these through FCP and they fit perfectly!

    Cap "ladder" style ties that go on threaded posts:
    BMW part 61131389024

    Ladder style ties that snap into body holes:
    BMW part 61131391721
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    Huh, nice. It’s interesting how these small parts (thinking fuel line clips on airbox) are interchangeable between brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmh800 View Post
    Huh, nice. It’s interesting how these small parts (thinking fuel line clips on airbox) are interchangeable between brands.
    Yeah more or less same design. Apparently Audi upsized all the post ties to fit 1/4" posts and killed whatever original part fit the B5s. I haven't searched too hard but I'd bet BMW sells the zip tie style that attaches to posts too.

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    Any chance you looked at either of these?

    N90643701

    N90476101

    I think the second one is same as the BMW part 61131391721 just sold under a diff P/N (and for more money of course lol)

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    Veteran Member Four Rings belms4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrWgn View Post
    Any chance you looked at either of these?

    N90643701

    N90476101

    I think the second one is same as the BMW part 61131391721 just sold under a diff P/N (and for more money of course lol)
    That second one should fit for sure. Any of the snap in types like that I've found are pretty forgiving and fit well.

    I haven't tried that first one though myself. At least not that I can remember recently. Definitely interested to hear if it fits. Next order from Audi I'll have one thrown in to check fitment. Thanks!

    Edit: Interesting, I just noticed I had N-906-437-01 already saved in one of my wish lists on the ECS site. Not finding if I ever bought it and tried it though. Apparently I've tried too many to remember now haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belms4 View Post
    Late update on this but I finally found suitable factory replacements for these cable ties that are in the style of the originals. Since Audi sucks at maintaining parts for any of their classics I actually found the right size ties from BMW. Had a friend with a 335 measure the threaded post size for these ties on his car. Same 5mm size the B5s use!

    So ordered 10 of each of these through FCP and they fit perfectly!

    Cap "ladder" style ties that go on threaded posts:
    BMW part 61131389024

    Ladder style ties that snap into body holes:
    BMW part 61131391721
    20230304_131950.jpg20230304_132043.jpg

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    Appreciate the information sir. Small things to keep this platform going.

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