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    2010 Audi B8 A4 2.0Tfsi CAEB Died while Driving and Doesn't Restart

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    Hi All,

    I am struggling with an issue that just came up on my B8 A4 Avant. I've done a fair bit of work to this car recently and have driven it about 800 miles since with no issues. Yesterday I was driving locally and the car lost power, misfired a couple of times and died at about 20mph. I pulled over and turned the car off, attempted to restart, and the car wouldn't fire up. It's cranking and there are no lights on the dash. I have posted a scan below and was hoping someone on the forum has experienced something similar with their 2.0t.

    A few other clews that I noted while on the side of the road. - It smelled like gas around the engine bay after the incident -- After opening the oil cap out of curiosity it really smelled of gasoline ----

    I sincerely appreciate your help in advance.

    Code:
    Tuesday,20,December,2022,17:41:27:51688
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 22.10.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4623.4
    Data version: 20221026 DS344.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUWFAFL4AA036069   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 255650km-158853mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: FL-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 62 72
              77
    
    VIN: WAUWFAFL4AA036069   Mileage: 255650km-158853miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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    Address 01: Engine (DL0MA-CAEB)       Labels:| 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
       Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AL    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H15 0001  
       Revision: E1H15---    CVN: CC36E0B0
       Coding: 010C010A190F0160
       Shop #: WSC 01126 444 104924
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL 001001
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL.rod
       VCID: 79AFEB4C8955CC43ACC-802C
       VINID: 9D196759159C1114400C600624D392D4CC
    
    5 Faults Found:
    5456 - Starter Will Not Turn 
              P3054 00 [096] - Jammed or Electrical Malfunction
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Mileage: 254621 km
                        Date: 2022.11.29
                        Time: 15:52:02
    
                        Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 77 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 60 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1020 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.156 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 18
    
    5463 - Starter Control; Returned Message 
              P3052 00 [032] - 50 Short to Plus
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Mileage: 254621 km
                        Date: 2022.11.29
                        Time: 15:53:59
    
                        Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 76 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 60 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1020 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.015 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 18
    
    4054 - Cylinder 1 
              P0301 00 [101] - Misfire Detected
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 255654 km
                        Date: 2022.12.19
                        Time: 20:07:34
    
                        Engine RPM: 985.50 /min
                        Normed load value: 9.8 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 98 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 14 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.510 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
    
    4063 - Cylinder 4 
              P0304 00 [101] - Misfire Detected
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 255654 km
                        Date: 2022.12.19
                        Time: 20:07:34
    
                        Engine RPM: 985.50 /min
                        Normed load value: 9.8 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 98 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 14 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.510 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
    
    4051 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected 
              P0300 00 [101] - -
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 255654 km
                        Date: 2022.12.19
                        Time: 20:07:34
    
                        Engine RPM: 985.50 /min
                        Normed load value: 9.8 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 98 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 14 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.510 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B6-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 J    HW: 0B6 927 156 
       Component: 0B6 20TFSIUSA H05 0008  
       Revision: --H05---    CVN: 1C1436D7
       Coding: 001012
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL651 A01006
       ROD: EV_TCMAL651.rod
       VCID: 3D273F5CDDFD3063C04-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CA    HW: 8K0 907 379 AN
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0010  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 150D18
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 7AADF4408CD3C75BA56-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0321  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 090200
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 78A9EE48B2DFD54BD32-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 A    HW: 8T0 959 754 A
       Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H37 0060 
       Serial number: 0509000035663011    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
       Serial number: 0209000047416004    
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0160  
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01140720090171
       Coding: 64002000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 005986A8EA0F9D8BEB2-8054
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H25 0380  
       Revision: 10025001    Serial number: 00000000309692
       Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D0D0F1C460802010161000000
       Shop #: WSC 01126 444 12187
       VCID: 3C213258C667396BF7A-8068
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 100709  H06 0070 
       Serial number: SWF09070106391      
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 10537454            
       Coding: 025028
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AL    HW: 8K0 941 531 AL
       Component: E1 - LDS  H08 0090 
       Serial number: 00000000002906090919
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 B    HW: 8K0 907 410 B
       Component: HOMELINK  H01 0010 
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 254546 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.11.25
                        Time: 17:35:00
    
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 9
                        Mileage: 255634 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.12.18
                        Time: 12:52:00
    
    02258 - Door Opener Transmitter 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 9
                        Mileage: 255634 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.12.18
                        Time: 12:52:00
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 H    HW: 8K0 959 655 H
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H37 0520  
       Serial number: 003EGD027ERA  
       Coding: 303836354230303030304A55304C384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
       VCID: 42DD4CA0A4034F9BBD6-8016
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 B    HW: 8K0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0030 
       Serial number: 5810000R0900003VYW
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME4942123CA
    
       Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME49721609C
    
       Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
       Serial number: 6352QSME2433321E9
    
       Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME2F324408G
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME5F311E285
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME7A2F542EG
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H16 0014  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90319IG9000GX 
       Coding: 000017
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3D273F5CDD7D3063C04-8068
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 950 E    HW: 8K0 920 950 E
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H19 0253  
       Revision: 00100000    Serial number: BWX365279     
       Coding: 831F11000300D705020000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 313F136C1125C40354C-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 R    HW: 8T0 907 468 H
       Component: GW-BEM 5CAN   H06 0101  
       Revision: GB500049    Serial number: 4900G097048260
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 50F976E87AEFAD0B3B2-8004
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDM  H06 0160 
       Serial number: 1908337E230609      
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199)       Labels:. 8T0-035-785.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 785 A    HW: 8T0 035 785 
       Component: SG ext.Player H08 0280  
       Revision: 00000000    
       Coding: 020302
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 392F2B4CC9550C43ECC-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 H    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H11 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000009056509 
       Coding: 011C03204000410001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 45D757BCB5AD78A3984-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 DG    HW: 8K0 907 064 DG
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H02 0321  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0119909386    
       Coding: 01260E3A207A441400B0020000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06342 123 12345
       VCID: 78A9EE48B2DFD54BD32-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719     HW: 8K0 959 719 
       Component: GTO BF  H06 0050 
       Serial number: 00000000000000150482
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 A    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS133  H06 0041 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 A    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J394 PS228  H06 0041 
    
    5 Faults Found:
    01403 - Glass-Break Sensors; Rear 
                011 - Open Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101011
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 196
                        Mileage: 254546 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.11.25
                        Time: 17:32:46
    
    02615 - Fuel Tank Cap; Lock 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 6
                        Mileage: 254549 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.11.27
                        Time: 13:19:23
    
    02616 - Fuel Tank Cap; Unlock 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 5
                        Mileage: 255409 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.12.15
                        Time: 12:38:56
    
    01519 - Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Right (M17) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 5
                        Mileage: 255516 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.12.16
                        Time: 18:05:09
    
    03233 - Controls for Garage Door Opener (E284) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 8
                        Mileage: 255634 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.12.18
                        Time: 12:52:36
    
    
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    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-ASC.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 035 223 F    HW: 8R0 035 223 E
       Component: DSP STD       H11 0440  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000001
       Coding: 0203010102
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2F3B15140711D2F3428-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 H    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H11 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000009058629 
       Coding: 011C03205400410001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 44D14AB8BE9741AB8FA-8010
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02115 - Locking Unit for Central Locking 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 194
                        Mileage: 254544 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.11.25
                        Time: 11:44:39
    
    
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    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0090  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 10000000276997
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34311A78EE37F12B3FA-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
       Part No: 8K5 907 357 
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
       VCID: 77ABED74B3C1DA33DA8-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 186 R    HW: 8T1 035 186 R
       Component: Con3 Sirius   H03 0351  
       Revision: 00000005    Serial number: AUZ5Z6I1242659
       Coding: 04020002010285004359070800
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 46D550B088AB73BB91E-8012
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 E    HW: 8T0 919 603 E
       Component: Display  
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
                000 - - - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 9
                        Reset counter: 11
                        Mileage: 254546 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.11.25
                        Time: 16:14:30
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 10000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
    
    
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    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HL        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000101512016 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 42DD4CA0A4834F9BBD6-8016
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02115 - Locking Unit for Central Locking 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 207
                        Mileage: 254544 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.11.25
                        Time: 11:44:39
    
    
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    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 C    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HR        H10 0306  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000101512013 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 42DD4CA0A4834F9BBD6-8016
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02115 - Locking Unit for Central Locking 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 255654 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2022.12.20
                        Time: 11:54:49
    
    
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    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8T0 862 336 D    HW: 8T0 862 336 D
       Component: FSE_256x BT     H37 0600  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005046671
       Coding: 0010370
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3C213258CA67396BF7A-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:54, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.6V. VIgn 11.6V)-----
    Last edited by AudiTTz; 12-21-2022 at 12:39 PM. Reason: reduce post length

  2. #2
    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Atlanta

    Did you have any awareness of the state of the timing chain before this? Have you looked at the state of the tensioner extension through the inspection cap on the lower timing cover? Or ever noted the camshaft adaptation intake bank 1 value after the car was warmed up and driven some and then idling (to make sure the value is meaningful)? If not, you might want to pull that hole cover and look. But that's only because the chain issue is a real thing that too many people either ignore or don't know about till their valves are smashed.

    But fuel in the oil, the HPFP probably just trashed, or the injectors. You'd need a scan tool to monitor the fuel pressure while cranking, is it holding around 4000 kPa or no.

    Spins but won't ignite. compression, fuel, air, spark.

    You got a lot of electrical issues. Why does the car think you have HomeLink but neither the transmitter nor controls are found?
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

  3. #3
    Junior Member One Ring AudiTTz's Avatar
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    Location
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    All good questions, and I thank you for your help. I will post an updated scan with some of the old codes cleared. I had the fuse out of the HomeLink to add my radar detector before the car started acting up that's why we see that pop up on the scan. The door lock modules on a couple doors are busted but I haven't had time to look into that quite yet so ive been ignoring them for now. There are a few other codes but for our purposes here ive been ignoring them too.

    The car just had a timing service done roughly 1000 miles ago. Both chains, all tensioners and guides, timing covers/ oil pan, and a new oil pump. The car has been running like a dream for the last bit but this seemed odd to me. I have a new HPFP and will be installing tonight. I will get the fuel pressure before I do so using VCDS and report back...

    Thanks again.

  4. #4
    Junior Member One Ring AudiTTz's Avatar
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    I also just noticed on that scan that the battery voltage seems a bit low, should it be reading 11.7 when the car/ key is in ACC mode during a scan?


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    It is low; I assume the battery is simply run down from trying to start the engine and running the ignition without the engine running. You'll want to put a charger on it to bring it back up if you can.
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    Alright Im Back at it and worked on the car after Christmas with the family. I got the new HPFP installed with a new cam follower. The measured fuel rail pressure was low during cranking so I figured I was headed in the right direction....

    I got back to the garage this morning, changed the oil and fired it back up. It took about 30sec. of cranking to get it to go but it finally started and ran it for roughly 20sec.. Unfortunately, it's was running with a misfire but it seemed like only a single cylinder. I scanned with VCDS and got the same cylinder misfire codes that I saw before. At this point the car was smoking pretty substantially out the tailpipe. I turned it off and figured it would be best to prepare to log some date to sort this out. Here is what I learned.

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    The car is commanding a Fuel rail pressure of roughly 5350kPa before startup. The car struggles to start and build the pressure efficiently. It eventually does and the car starts up. It runs but with a misfire, and the actual rail pressure is inconsistent + its dumping fuel into the exhaust somehow.... all things are starting to point at a hung injector that's stuck open. The real indicator is the drop in rail pressure after the car is turned off. I have a new injector I will try tomorrow, with some new seals for all 4 + the intake manifold seals. Once I test and confirm this is in fact the issue I will update.....

    Yes I know I should replace all 4 injectors but I'm on a budget and will go back in for carbon cleaning in the spring, at that point i will install 4 new injectors.

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    Not sure where you ended up but the misfire could also be an ignition coil. No fire in cyl, injector still squirts and you get unburned fuel going out the back. Coils are a very common failure. VCDS should tell you which cyl is misfiring. You can swap coils between misfire cyl and a working cyl. If misfire moves to the new position you know coil needs to be replaced.

    Or if you have another VW/Aiudi or have a friend with one, swap in all their good coils temporarily.

    Hard starting is commonly the failing for the LPFP system. It is an electric pump and is used to start car. The HPFP is mechanical and driven by the motor so it doesn't really start pumping until car gets to idle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GIACuser View Post
    Not sure where you ended up but the misfire could also be an ignition coil. No fire in cyl, injector still squirts and you get unburned fuel going out the back. Coils are a very common failure. VCDS should tell you which cyl is misfiring. You can swap coils between misfire cyl and a working cyl. If misfire moves to the new position you know coil needs to be replaced.

    Or if you have another VW/Audi or have a friend with one, swap in all their good coils temporarily.

    Hard starting is commonly the failing for the LPFP system. It is an electric pump and is used to start car. The HPFP is mechanical and driven by the motor so it doesn't really start pumping until car gets to idle.
    GIA, Thanks for the response. I did eventually sort it all out. It was in fact the injector in cylinder number 3. I ended up removing the intake manifold doing a full walnut shell blast of the valves and replaced all the fuel injectors. The engine seems happy now.

    The low pressure pumped was checked through the measuring block in VCDS, it provides a % duty cycle and i was duty cycling at about 45% which is within normal spec. I will likely have to replace the LPFP but not quite yet.... hahha.

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