Newly installed front sport suspension sits higher than rear.

[Dynobruh]

Hey guys, new poster here. I have a 2013 A4 Quattro non s line and bought some sport springs because I wanted a little drop as well as some new sport shocks. I made sure that the color codes on the springs matched my weight ratings and they were perfect, however when they were installed today, the front sits a tad bit too high compared to the rear, and it even looks as high as stock or maybe higher. My car is OYJ OJH, and the spring color codes were, front: 1 violet 3 orange, rear: 3 white 1 gray 1 green, which seems to match up with my car. Does anyone have any idea what could be going wrong and why my rear got lower and front didnt change or got higher even?

[Smac770]

1BA suspension B8.5 A4 sedan 2.0T. Then you installed just the 1BE springs, but not the 1BE dampers?

front 1BA 0JH is orange + violet
front 1BE 0JH is violet + 3x orange

front 1BA wheel center to fender should be 391±10mm.
front 1BE wheel center to fender should be 369±10mm.

rear 1BA 0YJ is gray + pink
rear 1BE 0YJ is green + gray + 3x white

Audi doesn't provide any info to spec the rear wheel center to fender distance for a B8.

First question would be is the front too high or the rear too low. But the springs seem the correct ones. Are they new or sourced from various origins?

[Dynobruh]

1BA suspension B8.5 A4 sedan 2.0T. Then you installed just the 1BE springs, but not the 1BE dampers?

front 1BA 0JH is orange + violet
front 1BE 0JH is violet + 3x orange

front 1BA wheel center to fender should be 391±10mm.
front 1BE wheel center to fender should be 369±10mm.

rear 1BA 0YJ is gray + pink
rear 1BE 0YJ is green + gray + 3x white

Audi doesn't provide any info to spec the rear wheel center to fender distance for a B8.

First question would be is the front too high or the rear too low. But the springs seem the correct ones. Are they new or sourced from various origins?

Hey, I did change the dampers and they were these right here https://www.ebay.com/itm/23274020689...mis&media=COPY

As for the springs, they came off of a 2011 B8 A4 S line if I remember correctly, it was not an S4.

The rear doesn’t sit too low at all, I can fit about 3 fingers, (My hands arent that big) and it was noticeably lower when we changed it. But in the front I can fit up to 4 almost even 5 and looks like it either got higher or stayed unchanged, and everything was definitely changed, springs, dampers and bump stops. When driving it does feel quite a bit soft when coming down from a bump in the front side and a little unusual but it doesn’t feel like a bad ride.

[bb-tt]

Hey, I did change the dampers and they were these right here https://www.ebay.com/itm/23274020689...mis&media=COPY

As for the springs, they came off of a 2011 B8 A4 S line if I remember correctly, it was not an S4.

You put 12 year old used springs and shocks on your car? Springs could be wore out. My s-line sat level got a b12 pro kit and swapped back first and front sat just a tad higher than the back. Oh my stock s-line suspension on my 2011 maybe wasn't shot but was pretty close at 80k miles and 10 years.

[Dynobruh]

You put 12 year old used springs and shocks on your car? Springs could be wore out. My s-line sat level got a b12 pro kit and swapped back first and front sat just a tad higher than the back. Oh my stock s-line suspension on my 2011 maybe wasn't shot but was pretty close at 80k miles and 10 years.

Yes they are old springs, however they were from an s line that was swapped many years ago and low mileage, around 40k, and was just garage kept and sitting. They were also in really good condition so I don’t feel like it could be the problem but of course who knows. It just doesn’t add up how the rear looks great like sport suspension, while the front looks like a 4x4. I would like to upload pics but I am unsure how to because I’m fairly new to this sub.

[old guy]

Give it a few days before you do anything. If the springs were sitting around on a shelf unloaded for an extended period of time it may take a week or so for them to fully settle.

[Smac770]

391 and 369, what's your actual front measurement? Ie, is front in spec or out of spec? 1BE (A sport) and 1BD (S sport) use the same springs.

[Dynobruh]

Give it a few days before you do anything. If the springs were sitting around on a shelf unloaded for an extended period of time it may take a week or so for them to fully settle.

Ok, will do so. I was also thinking about getting a pair of OJF springs for the front if it doesnt seem to settle, which is two weight ranges below my weight range. I’ve seen in another forum that someone said that they went lower than their range and it worked perfectly, thinking if it would work for me.

[Dynobruh]

391 and 369, what's your actual front measurement? Ie, is front in spec or out of spec? 1BE (A sport) and 1BD (S sport) use the same springs.

I am unsure on the measurements, will have to get it later today but I can tell you it is just as high as 1BA currently, with OJH front springs according to the color codes.

[Smac770]

0JH (it's zero, not oh) is just a front axle load code. 1BA and 1BE should be noticeably different (just under 1" for B8). If your rear came down but the front did not, it could well be the springs need to settle. Or there's something else going on.

One of the big questions I've always wondered is if the axle load codes represent the same weights for different suspension codes. Audi does not detail this information in the parts catalog, or elsewhere. Take a sample of B8 A4 2.0T wagons:
1BE > 0JG + 0YK (some avant)
1BA > 0JH + 0YL (my 2009 NAR avant Prestige 2.0T+ZF6)
1BP > 0JH + 0YM (2013 NAR allroad 2.0T+ZF8)
1BP > 0JJ + 0YL (2014 or 2015 Norway allroad 2.0T+DCT)

There's not enough details from these samples to determine if the differences are due to installed equipment or other reason. But it could be Audi also assigns different weights to the ranges depending on the suspension code.

Your 2013 A4 1BA sedan is 0JH+0YJ, but would a similarly equipped 2013 A4 1BE sedan have the same codes? Or would it be 0JG+0YJ, e.g. That's the crux that's never been answered because sufficiently detailed population samples have never been provided.

"s-line" means little to nothing for US market vehicles; it's not a reliable term for representing anything, BTW.

[Dynobruh]

0JH (it's zero, not oh) is just a front axle load code. 1BA and 1BE should be noticeably different (just under 1" for B8). If your rear came down but the front did not, it could well be the springs need to settle. Or there's something else going on.

One of the big questions I've always wondered is if the axle load codes represent the same weights for different suspension codes. Audi does not detail this information in the parts catalog, or elsewhere. Take a sample of B8 A4 2.0T wagons:
20?? 1BE > 0JG + 0YK
2009 1BA > 0JH + 0YL
2013 1BP > 0JH + 0YM
2014 1BP > 0JJ + 0YL

There's not enough details from these samples to determine if the differences are due to installed equipment or other reason. But it could be Audi also assigns different weights to the ranges depending on the suspension code.

Your 2013 A4 1BA sedan is 0JH+0YJ, but would a similarly equipped 2013 A4 1BE sedan have the same codes? Or would it be 0JG+0YJ, e.g. That's the crux that's never been answered because sufficiently detailed population samples have never been provided.

"s-line" means little to nothing for US market vehicles; it's not a reliable term for representing anything, BTW.

I see what your saying and I guess that would be my question too, because if that is the case then you kind of just have to get lucky then. I’ll give it a few days and come back with an answer hopefully.

[Smac770]

Hopefully someone with a 2013 A4 sedan with 1BE will just post their PR codes for front and rear axle weight ranges and then you'll know, maybe. Would be better to match up trim levels (prem, prem+, pres) and with or without navigation and B&O (believe they all come with sunroof?).

[bb-tt]

0JH (it's zero, not oh) is just a front axle load code. 1BA and 1BE should be noticeably different (just under 1" for B8). If your rear came down but the front did not, it could well be the springs need to settle. Or there's something else going on.

One of the big questions I've always wondered is if the axle load codes represent the same weights for different suspension codes. Audi does not detail this information in the parts catalog, or elsewhere. Take a sample of B8 A4 2.0T wagons:
1BE > 0JG + 0YK (some avant)
1BA > 0JH + 0YL (my 2009 NAR avant Prestige 2.0T+ZF6)
1BP > 0JH + 0YM (2013 NAR allroad 2.0T+ZF8)
1BP > 0JJ + 0YL (2014 or 2015 Norway allroad 2.0T+DCT)

There's not enough details from these samples to determine if the differences are due to installed equipment or other reason. But it could be Audi also assigns different weights to the ranges depending on the suspension code.

Your 2013 A4 1BA sedan is 0JH+0YJ, but would a similarly equipped 2013 A4 1BE sedan have the same codes? Or would it be 0JG+0YJ, e.g. That's the crux that's never been answered because sufficiently detailed population samples have never been provided.

"s-line" means little to nothing for US market vehicles; it's not a reliable term for representing anything, BTW.

my 2011 avant s-line prestige

[misiak]

Are the bottoms of the front shocks seated all the way down? There is a lip in the knuckle that they need to sit on.

[Smac770]

Comparing bb-tt and mine and the mystery record I ran across

2009 A4 avant prestige (2.0T 0B6)
1BA, 0JH (front 8), 0YL (rear 11)

2015 A4 avant _ (2.0 TDI 0B5)
1BA, 0JJ (front 9), 0YL (rear 11)

2011 A4 avant prestige (2.0T 0BK)
1BE, 0JF (front 6), 0YK (rear 10)

20?? A4 avant _ (2.0 TDI 0B5)
1BE, 0JG (front 7), 0YK (rear 10)


So looks like 1BE went two ratings lower on the front and one rating lower on the rear, compared to 1BA. Not nearly enough samples to be conclusive, but the immediate deviation seems to imply we need to be more thorough when considering transition between suspension codes that use different spring sets. They do not appear to be using the same axle codes for a given weight for all suspension codes. Whether this is reflection of different weight ranges for the different spring sets (orange mark = front standard springs, grey mark = rear standard springs, violet mark = front sport springs, green mark = rear sport springs, brown = rear adaptive springs) is anyone's guess. But that would seem reasonable.

The guy with the 2015 said he went -3 front and rear and got a 1" drop and was very happy with it. That's probably a bit much, unless you never carry any real cargo load. I think I'd go to -2 front / -1 rear, matching bb-tt's codes, since you note the front is high currently. 1BE-0JF is violet+3Xpink (8K0 411 105 EB) and 1BE-0YK is green+gray+blue (8K0 511 115 HB)

[Dynobruh]

Hey guys OP here, car hasn’t gotten lower and the ride actually feels harsh, maybe the correct springs are indeed two ratings lower than our s line counterpart. I have decided to just get H&R OE instead due to not having a bunch of money to experiment with, dont want have my mechanic change it so much either. I have a set 0JH and 0YJ sport springs as well as stock springs for sale, dm if interested.

[Dynobruh]

I pulled the trigger on some Solowerks Coilovers, the ride quality is very similar to how it felt on the “sport” springs, and it is really comfortable so far. Will see how well they hold up during this winter. I am still unsure on how to post pics but if you have instagram you can see my setup and dm if you have questions @slowb8.5