Safety concern: Loosing my wheel counterweights due to heat

[S3DUDE]

Hello folks. I am struggling to understand how this is happening to me. Please bear with me as I explain. I have done 4 road courses within the last 5 months and it has been a mix of using two cars: RS3 and a 8th Gen SI. About 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I was switching wheels on my 2018 RS3 I realized that the some of wheel counterweight led balance blocks were missing.

I did not pay attention much as I thought that they were probably not properly glued. Well... fast forward and yesterday I took my 2009 Civic SI to the road course with brand new Enkei lightweight wheels. I did 54 laps and when I was almost done I pulled over to let the car cool off. I found(no kidding) 2 rectangular counterweight led balance somehow lodged between the caliper and the disc/rotor vanes. I backed up and moved back and forth to try to unlodge it. I could hear grinding while moving. All the sudden I heard a huge metal cracking.

3 months ago I sold a set of almost new wheels and one of the front wheels had a "lose" center cap. I try putting it back on but it was lose. I flipped the center cap to take a look and realized that it was melted on the inside.

Anyways, I know that my problem only affects to a small portion of you guys because frankly you would not heat up your wheels that much. A 1/4 mile event or a 1/2 mile event wouldn't do it. Autocross are like 1 minute run and short and most road courses out there are plenty long to cool off but the circuit that I am doing the road course is very tight, short and it has a lot or curves.
I don't know what to tell the guys at discount tires. If I say that my led counterweight balance are falling because I am racing they might charge me and say that is my fault. If I don't say nothing they are going to scratch their head and try to understand how I am loosing so many counter weights on new wheels.

Well, there you have it, I am just sharing my experience because it sucks!! I don't know what the solution is. Have you ran into this problem? not just losing the counterweights but ending up a a freak accident and lodging in between the calipers and the rotor vanes?

** I will add pictures shortly
Pic #1 and #2 are the Neuspeeds wheel from the RS3, (two different wheels). The rest are from the Enkei RPF1 wheel on the honda literally installed 9 days ago.

[TToysRuS]

Hello folks. I am struggling to understand how this is happening to me. Please bear with me as I explain. I have done 4 road courses within the last 5 months and it has been a mix of using two cars: RS3 and a 8th Gen SI. About 3 weeks ago I noticed that when I was switching wheels on my 2018 RS3 I realized that the some of wheel counterweight led balance blocks were missing.

I did not pay attention much as I thought that they were probably not properly glued. Well... fast forward and yesterday I took my 2009 Civic SI to the road course with brand new Enkei lightweight wheels. I did 54 laps and when I was almost done I pulled over to let the car cool off. I found(no kidding) 2 rectangular counterweight led balance somehow lodged between the caliper and the disc/rotor vanes. I backed up and moved back and forth to try to unlodge it. I could hear grinding while moving. All the sudden I heard a huge metal cracking.

3 months ago I sold a set of almost new wheels and one of the front wheels had a "lose" center cap. I try putting it back on but it was lose. I flipped the center cap to take a look and realized that it was melted on the inside.

Anyways, I know that my problem only affects to a small portion of you guys because frankly you would not heat up your wheels that much. A 1/4 mile event or a 1/2 mile event wouldn't do it. Autocross are like 1 minute run and short and most road courses out there are plenty long to cool off but the circuit that I am doing the road course is very tight, short and it has a lot or curves.
I don't know what to tell the guys at discount tires. If I say that my led counterweight balance are falling because I am racing they might charge me and say that is my fault. If I don't say nothing they are going to scratch their head and try to understand how I am loosing so many counter weights on new wheels.

Well, there you have it, I am just sharing my experience because it sucks!! I don't know what the solution is. Have you ran into this problem? not just losing the counterweights but ending up a a freak accident and lodging in between the calipers and the rotor vanes?

** I will add pictures shortly

Here you go sir. 3M makes some weights with high temp tape on them too I believe

https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Ta.../dp/B013H7727Q

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b40070537/



More reads here.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ight-tape.html

[o1turbo30v]

It might be 18” wheels are simply to small for track use and the wheel holds to much heat.

[S3DUDE]

Here you go sir. 3M makes some weights with high temp tape on them too I believe

https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Ta.../dp/B013H7727Q

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b40070537/





More reads here.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ight-tape.html

Thank you so much. This might be my ticket to saving the led counterweights from literally falling off. On a different note, for those of you that run shorter road courses with lots of turns I recommend you take a second look at your counterweight.

[0000 RS5]

Aluminum tape over the top of all weights on wheels that see the track


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[tegxsi]

yes... aluminum foil tape used for HVAC from home depot or lowes.

[S3DUDE]

More pictures that I loaded from excatly the way I found the counterweight lodged between the rotor and the caliper. It is absurd to see not one but two counterweights lodged. Be safe out there folks, if you are doing any road course please take a good look of your wheels, rotors and calipers. On this particular situation the rotor won, the thick iron rotors was stronger than the counterweight led but you can clearly see on the last two pictures that it was grinding. When the counterweight snapped it was loud.

I will follow up on this topic as soon as I can test the car at the racetrack again under heavy breaking/heat conditions with the new adhesive. It might be weeks or months until then but worth waiting for the results.

[TToysRuS]

Thank you so much. This might be my ticket to saving the led counterweights from literally falling off. On a different note, for those of you that run shorter road courses with lots of turns I recommend you take a second look at your counterweight.

Very welcome!

[arulrs3]

Use the aluminum tape from 3M or Racers tape but you are going to have issues with this as well if you are running 9" or 8.5" 18" wheels since weights are very close to calipers. I have used duct tape and on top it aluminum tape which seems to help a lot.
Also, when parking make sure position of wheels weights are away from caliper. I moved to 9.5" wheels and this issue is completely gone lol.