8v vs 8y exhausts?

[lemonvr6]

Word on the street is that aside from the integrated tips that the units are identical and share a part number. Can anyone validate


Want the akra 8y to retrofit to my 8v

[S3DUDE]

Word on the street is that aside from the integrated tips that the units are identical and share a part number. Can anyone validate


Want the akra 8y to retrofit to my 8v

I was underneath of my 8V RS3 on the lift removing the mid pipes to trade-in the car last week. Today I was underneath again because my wife wanted the same mid pipes on her car 8Y RS3. I was taking a close look and to me they are identical.

On that note I will never recommend anyone to ever buy the Sport exhaust. It is the biggest waste of money and on my own words I refer to it as an Audi scam. I had my 8V with the standard exhaust and I had my friend with the sport exhaust on his 8V, they sound the same, we met up again with mid pipes and both sound the same.

My wife's RS3 has the sport exhaust and is quiet, I don't know if the car comes with the OPF or OPV filter but it is quiet. Thankfully the mid pipes help with a bit of throaty exhaust note. This is just my sincere opinion.

I do have the stock rear cats removed on the 8Y RS3. If someone wants me to I can take a picture of the part number but to me they are identical to the previous one. Also, the new exhaust tips fits terribly, the tips from the actual rear muffler don't line up to the oval tips on the bumper, the exhaust is much smaller. On the old exhaust the rear muffler tip transitioned smoothly with the oval tips.

The best thing you can do is to order mid pipes and stick with the standard exhaust.

[clerkpalmer]

Are the midpipes plug and play or is there cutting involved? So I can buy 8v midpipes? Anything else needed? Gaskets? I have sport exhaust on my 8y and it’s very quiet.

[o1turbo30v]

Are the midpipes plug and play or is there cutting involved? So I can buy 8v midpipes? Anything else needed? Gaskets? I have sport exhaust on my 8y and it’s very quiet.

Midpipes are the same for the 8v and 8Y, no cutting, 6 bolts and 2 clamps, reuse OE gasket, very easy, surprised if it took you more than hour to do. Try to find the OE Audi euro pipes, they fit the best, not that aftermarket doesn’t just love the OE+ mods.

[S3DUDE]

^^ What he said . It is a very easy job, no more than one hour tops. The only inconvenience is if the exhaust is hot. I had 034 mid pipes put in, the hardware on 034 is a 13mm while the oem nuts on the cats are 12mm. The rear clamps nuts are 13mm.

[clerkpalmer]

Thanks guys. Seems like a fun affordable upgrade.

[TToysRuS]

Midpipes are the same for the 8v and 8Y, no cutting, 6 bolts and 2 clamps, reuse OE gasket, very easy, surprised if it took you more than hour to do. Try to find the OE Audi euro pipes, they fit the best, not that aftermarket doesn’t just love the OE+ mods.

Careful with the studs on the Audi EU OE pipes. They break VERY easily, especially when you remove/reinstall the OEM nuts which cut into the studs. Getting the stainless studs out is not fun when they break. My buddy had to saw off / drill out the studs that broke and replaced with bolts and nuts and no more issues there. Just a matter of time, one stud broke each time he swapped them in and out.

Fitment though is fantastic otherwise, zero leaks or issues.

[S3DUDE]

Careful with the studs on the Audi EU OE pipes. They break VERY easily, especially when you remove/reinstall the OEM nuts which cut into the studs. Getting the stainless studs out is not fun when they break. My buddy had to saw off / drill out the studs that broke and replaced with bolts and nuts and no more issues there. Just a matter of time, one stud broke each time he swapped them in and out.

Fitment though is fantastic otherwise, zero leaks or issues.

Good advise. What I did noticed on my recent swaps is that the bolts and nuts provided by 034 motorsports rusted out badly. They were still functional but they were significantly full of oxidation. I have been plenty of times underneath cars doing exhaust, this is not unique to 034motorsports, it is across the industry. I haven't had any issues with mine, my mid pipes were on the car for three and a half years before removing them.

Sorry if I ask the "stupid question" but did you guys at least use penetrating oil before attempting to remove the nuts? The oem nuts and even the 034 motorsport nuts are captive nuts(oval in shape) so that they grab. what you guys did is exactly what I would have done, drill it and use a bolt/nut in lieu of the stud.

[TToysRuS]

Good advise. What I did noticed on my recent swaps is that the bolts and nuts provided by 034 motorsports rusted out badly. They were still functional but they were significantly full of oxidation. I have been plenty of times underneath cars doing exhaust, this is not unique to 034motorsports, it is across the industry. I haven't had any issues with mine, my mid pipes were on the car for three and a half years before removing them.

Sorry if I ask the "stupid question" but did you guys at least use penetrating oil before attempting to remove the nuts? The oem nuts and even the 034 motorsport nuts are captive nuts(oval in shape) so that they grab. what you guys did is exactly what I would have done, drill it and use a bolt/nut in lieu of the stud.

Yes indeed. It wasnt rust/binding that caused the issue, its the fact that the captive nuts are cutting into the threads. The broken ones were replaced with stainless bolts and copper nuts, so the disparate metal types are less likely to bind up.

[unclemat]

I was underneath of my 8V RS3 on the lift removing the mid pipes to trade-in the car last week. Today I was underneath again because my wife wanted the same mid pipes on her car 8Y RS3. I was taking a close look and to me they are identical.

On that note I will never recommend anyone to ever buy the Sport exhaust. It is the biggest waste of money and on my own words I refer to it as an Audi scam. I had my 8V with the standard exhaust and I had my friend with the sport exhaust on his 8V, they sound the same, we met up again with mid pipes and both sound the same.

My wife's RS3 has the sport exhaust and is quiet, I don't know if the car comes with the OPF or OPV filter but it is quiet. Thankfully the mid pipes help with a bit of throaty exhaust note. This is just my sincere opinion.

I do have the stock rear cats removed on the 8Y RS3. If someone wants me to I can take a picture of the part number but to me they are identical to the previous one. Also, the new exhaust tips fits terribly, the tips from the actual rear muffler don't line up to the oval tips on the bumper, the exhaust is much smaller. On the old exhaust the rear muffler tip transitioned smoothly with the oval tips.

The best thing you can do is to order mid pipes and stick with the standard exhaust.

So what is really difference between standard and sport exhaust? They are both valved, correct?

[unclemat]

This post says the only difference is the size of resonators:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post14817919

If so, that indeed is pretty lame and not worth paying a grand for.

[okswerve16]

Interesting - if I look at the tech drawings on page 48 (44 marked) it appears the resonators are after the mid pipes. Unless they are referencing the size of the secondary cats being different and not the resonator as what is different between sport and not sport.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...27901-9999.pdf

[unclemat]

Yeah, I wonder. Some people are incorrectly saying replacing the mid-pipe is removing the resonators, which is not the case - the secondary cats are deleted.

[unclemat]

Elsewhere folks are saying the muffler part #s are different. I suspect this is the correct answer, how much difference in practice that makes is another story. Apparently for pre-face lift 8V the difference was significant. Maybe for 8Y it isn't anymore?

[S3DUDE]

So what is really difference between standard and sport exhaust? They are both valved, correct?

Yes, they are both valved. The difference is mainly internally on the big rear center muffler. I haven't had the chance of opening the muffler myself but I am sure it has to do with perhaps less restricting flow. Just to clarify, sport and standard exhaust both comes with resonators but it appears that the sport exhaust has shorter resonators while the standard comes with longer ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZ0liPb97c

[clerkpalmer]

Yes, they are both valved. The difference is mainly internally on the big rear center muffler. I haven't had the chance of opening the muffler myself but I am sure it has to do with perhaps less restricting flow. Just to clarify, sport and standard exhaust both comes with resonators but it appears that the sport exhaust has shorter resonators while the standard comes with longer ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZ0liPb97c

Seems like a bit of a ripoff for 1k. Seems like it should just be standard.

[unclemat]

Yes, they are both valved. The difference is mainly internally on the big rear center muffler. I haven't had the chance of opening the muffler myself but I am sure it has to do with perhaps less restricting flow. Just to clarify, sport and standard exhaust both comes with resonators but it appears that the sport exhaust has shorter resonators while the standard comes with longer ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZ0liPb97c

Ok, thanks! So it is both resonator and muffler differences, at least this was the case for 8V.

Re 8Y I am trying to buy... if I find one on a lot I will take whatever exhaust it has (most of them seem to have the sport exhaust). Ordering, not sure. You're saying it is quiet, and a rip off.... I am inlined to order it. I am not quite interested in aftermarket exhaust mods, not even deleting the 2nd cats. Wish it was easy to compare them side by side in person.

[S3DUDE]

Seems like a bit of a ripoff for 1k. Seems like it should just be standard.

I totally agree. It is one of the biggest ripoffs in my opinion. On the previous car (8V) it was included as a package but on the new one is a stand alone option. The exhaust tip from the rear muffler don't even line up with the oval tips, it looks cheesy/tacky. If anyone is reading my feedback(opinion) save yourself $1000 and don't buy the sport exhaust, save your money and get mid pipes and thank me later.

[Alex D]

I totally agree. It is one of the biggest ripoffs in my opinion. On the previous car (8V) it was included as a package but on the new one is a stand alone option. The exhaust tip from the rear muffler don't even line up with the oval tips, it looks cheesy/tacky. If anyone is reading my feedback(opinion) save yourself $1000 and don't buy the sport exhaust, save your money and get mid pipes and thank me later.

The other gripe I have is the black optic package requires the sport exhaust to be checked off:(

[S3DUDE]

The other gripe I have is the black optic package requires the sport exhaust to be checked off:(

Black optic package on the new 8Y is another unnecessary option. The reason why I am saying this is because the car comes with extensive front grill, side window trim, rear bumpers inserts , black side skirts, black rear spoiler and black wheels already. You only get the following on black optics:

black roof(only the rear section of the roof)
"blacker" wheels
black rear and front emblems

My opinion is very subjective, I had a S3 sepang blue a few years back with black optics and it looked great. On the new 8Y with the amount of glossy black trims/plastics that you get standard I think is already plenty. You can always wrap your rear section of roof later and buy the black emblems. my .2c

[Lpc3030]

I can confirm that the non sport exhaust just has bigger resonators. You can see a weld line on the sport exhaust where the non sport exhaust resonators would extend too. I can also confirm that all 8v midpipes fit on the 8y exhaust. I got a 2023 mythos black rs3 about 3 weeks ago and installed unitronic midpipes on it. 30 minute install. They came with new gaskets and bolts.

[rs3_guy]

I can confirm that the non sport exhaust just has bigger resonators. You can see a weld line on the sport exhaust where the non sport exhaust resonators would extend too. I can also confirm that all 8v midpipes fit on the 8y exhaust. I got a 2023 mythos black rs3 about 3 weeks ago and installed unitronic midpipes on it. 30 minute install. They came with new gaskets and bolts.

How do you like it? Care to post a sound clip?

[unclemat]

I can confirm that the non sport exhaust just has bigger resonators. You can see a weld line on the sport exhaust where the non sport exhaust resonators would extend too. I can also confirm that all 8v midpipes fit on the 8y exhaust. I got a 2023 mythos black rs3 about 3 weeks ago and installed unitronic midpipes on it. 30 minute install. They came with new gaskets and bolts.

The video linked earlier shows differences in the muffler as well. It's a separate piece.

[Lpc3030]

The video linked earlier shows differences in the muffler as well. It's a separate piece.

I guess I didn’t really look at the muffler mostly the secondary cats and resonators


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[Lpc3030]

How do you like it? Care to post a sound clip?

It’s an amazing car. I’ll have to get a video and post it. I already put it away for the winter cause I live in Wisconsin.


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[Lpc3030]

These are pictures of my exhaust

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[Lpc3030]

How do you like it? Care to post a sound clip?

So I can’t post a video. I assume it’s because I just joined this forum 2 days ago. I will return to this thread and post a cold start and revving video when I’m able too


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[Lpc3030]

How do you like it? Care to post a sound clip?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClKkp...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClKky...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


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[coolwater]

I didn’t have much of a choice in exhaust or color of my car. Just took what was available. Here is CTS midpipes with OEM sport exhaust.

https://youtu.be/hXESoEnwPT4

-cW


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