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    Hello everybody! This is my first time on the forum, so I'm looking to make good impressions by being as thorough as possible during this process by offering every piece of information, progress and knowledge I have over the issues I've been dealing with, so without wasting any time lets start!
    I have a 2010 Audi A4 Base that has had the K04 turbo upgrade and been tuned to a dyno sheet number of 341HP. I bought it about 11 months ago or so and have been enjoying every single bit of the quattro 6 speed manual lifestyle! it is as well my first ever turbo car, and its awesome, it came with a few cosmetic mods as well as nice essential mods like oil consumption fixes and correct timing tensioner and things like that.
    So i come to you today with a progression of what I've done and how I've done it, I've tried my hardest to figure it all out, and for the most part have been able to, but I'm looking to see if any of the experts on here have an opinion over this since under all circumstances i do not want to end up at an Audi dealer to get it diagnosed or worse yet repaired.

    I was driving a few months ago and experienced a malfunction, an EPC light to be specific. Little did i know the timing control valve had gone bad, not before messing with the timing and bending up every single exhaust valve pretty bad! I have photographed the entire process pretty comprehensively and will provide pictures of that upon request. Regardless i am not new to automotive repair, i have done my own engine swaps, transmission swaps, and in fact already pulled the AWD transmission assembly and replaced the clutch, so when it comes to labor, i have VW/Audi specific tools like triple square sets, torx bits, and the willingness to do just about anything. After replacement of the valves, i bought the ECS tuning timing chain kit that came with new balancer chain, new model timing chain, new model tensioner, and all new guides. After replacement this did not fix the issue as i had not recognized that the center nub on the timing control valve had popped out! silly me.. But in the process of course nothing happens without something causing it, the screen on the cam bridge had collapsed and caused havoc on the upper part of my engine causing what i suppose to be oil pressure issues. i have officially replaced the cam bridge, oil control valve, oil control magnet, and after running into some issues i replaced the intake camshaft as well. I will also note now that i have acquired the Ross Tech VCDS scanner and have been thoroughly enjoying the plethora of features that are included in the software like live data graphing, and maintenance light reset features! So after all the work listed plus an oil change, it had MOSTLY fixed the functionality of the engine! i would say ride quality about 90-95% of what it was, but there are a couple issues persisting. at idle in 1st gear creeping forward if i hit the gas there is a significant time delay between hitting the gas and the engine accelerating. also a very odd timing noise happens at 1220 RPM along with a P000A code being thrown at the same RPM, but no other RPM does this issue happen. I also had a P0011 code thrown today, but realized i had a bit of an oil leak, and wasnt able to recreate the P0011 code after adding oil, but the P000A code still persists. I have not replaced the camshaft position sensor since i got a new camshaft, but to my knowledge every other piece of timing related components have been replaced. Should i just parts cannon that sensor while im at it, or do you have a better idea? please let me know if i missed anything, or can share any additional information, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to read this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkportals View Post
    Hello everybody! This is my first time on the forum, so I'm looking to make good impressions by being as thorough as possible during this process by offering every piece of information, progress and knowledge I have over the issues I've been dealing with, so without wasting any time lets start!

    I have a 2010 Audi A4 Base that has had the K04 turbo upgrade and been tuned to a dyno sheet number of 341HP. I bought it about 11 months ago or so and have been enjoying every single bit of the quattro 6 speed manual lifestyle! it is as well my first ever turbo car, and its awesome, it came with a few cosmetic mods as well as nice essential mods like oil consumption fixes and correct timing tensioner and things like that.

    So i come to you today with a progression of what I've done and how I've done it, I've tried my hardest to figure it all out, and for the most part have been able to, but I'm looking to see if any of the experts on here have an opinion over this since under all circumstances i do not want to end up at an Audi dealer to get it diagnosed or worse yet repaired.

    I was driving a few months ago and experienced a malfunction, an EPC light to be specific. Little did i know the timing control valve had gone bad, not before messing with the timing and bending up every single exhaust valve pretty bad! I have photographed the entire process pretty comprehensively and will provide pictures of that upon request.

    Regardless i am not new to automotive repair, i have done my own engine swaps, transmission swaps, and in fact already pulled the AWD transmission assembly and replaced the clutch, so when it comes to labor, i have VW/Audi specific tools like triple square sets, torx bits, and the willingness to do just about anything.


    After replacement of the valves, i bought the ECS tuning timing chain kit that came with new balancer chain, new model timing chain, new model tensioner, and all new guides. After replacement this did not fix the issue as i had not recognized that the center nub on the timing control valve had popped out! silly me.. But in the process of course nothing happens without something causing it, the screen on the cam bridge had collapsed and caused havoc on the upper part of my engine causing what i suppose to be oil pressure issues.

    i have officially replaced the cam bridge, oil control valve, oil control magnet, and after running into some issues i replaced the intake camshaft as well. I will also note now that i have acquired the Ross Tech VCDS scanner and have been thoroughly enjoying the plethora of features that are included in the software like live data graphing, and maintenance light reset features! So after all the work listed plus an oil change, it had MOSTLY fixed the functionality of the engine!

    i would say ride quality about 90-95% of what it was, but there are a couple issues persisting. at idle in 1st gear creeping forward if i hit the gas there is a significant time delay between hitting the gas and the engine accelerating. also a very odd timing noise happens at 1220 RPM along with a P000A code being thrown at the same RPM, but no other RPM does this issue happen. I also had a P0011 code thrown today, but realized i had a bit of an oil leak, and wasnt able to recreate the P0011 code after adding oil, but the P000A code still persists.

    I have not replaced the camshaft position sensor since i got a new camshaft, but to my knowledge every other piece of timing related components have been replaced. Should i just parts cannon that sensor while im at it, or do you have a better idea? please let me know if i missed anything, or can share any additional information, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to read this!
    Last edited by old guy; 11-01-2022 at 05:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    Made it a little easier to read.
    Thank you. I stared at the text for 15 seconds and expected one of those 3D sailboats to appear.

    OP, check here to see how to get some values and then post results.
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