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    Vin Limited Interface FAQ...

    Why sell VIN-Limited interfaces?

    Because it allows us to charge for the product in a manner that's somewhat commensurate with how the product is used. A professional workshop that's in and out of several vehicles a day with their VCDS gets considerably more value from the product than a private individual who only uses it occasionally one one or two of his own cars. When the previous generation of interfaces was designed 10-12 years ago, most VW/Audi cars on the road did not yet know their own VIN, so it was not really practical to restrict usage that way. Hence the pricing on our universal interfaces (interfaces that worked with all the cars available at that point) had always something of a compromise. Plenty of workshops told us that VCDS was the best value for the money of any tool they'd ever bought and that we could/should charge more, but we were already at or close to the limit of what an enthusiast would pay, and enthusiasts were (and still are!) a very important part of our business. In fact, the reason this product exists is that I got frustrated that I couldn't trouble-shoot my own cars anymore in the late 1990s. Some pros suggested that we make a less expensive version for enthusiasts by restricting the what the enthusiast version could do, but that was not an approach that was palatable to me. So now a decade later, most of the cars people are working on do know their VINs and restricting the number of cars an enthusiast can perform certain functions on seems like a reasonable way of differentiating between a "pro" and a private individual.

    Will VCDS count a car's VIN as toward the license limit as soon as I plug into a particular car?

    No! VCDS will never count a VIN toward the license limit without the user's explicit permission. It will always ask you first, thereby giving you the opportunity to decline to "register" a VIN in the interface. Besides, there are a lot of useful things you can do on an unlimited number of cars.

    What functions are not VIN-Restricted?

    A VIN-Limited interface can do Auto-Scans, Clear DTCs, and look at Measuring Values on an unlimited number of cars. I think this is important because I wouldn't want to keep an enthusiast from doing basic diagnostics on his friends' cars, or to use his VCDS when evaluating used cars he's contemplating buying. You wouldn't buy a used car without doing an Auto-Scan on it first, right? In addition, you can make channel maps on an unlimited number of cars because sending us those maps helps us improve the product.

    What functions are VIN-Restricted?

    • In essence, it's those functions that actually change things in the car:
    • Adaptation
    • Basic Settings
    • Changing Codings
    • Changing the Gateway Installation List
    • Login or Security Access
    • Output Tests
    • Optical Bus Diagnostic
    • Readiness
    • Resetting SRI
    • Turning Transport Mode on or off



    In addition, directly accessing a control module outside of an Auto-Scan will prompt the user whether he wants to "register" that car's VIN, but declining to do so at that point will not prevent access to the module.

    What about older cars that do not know their VIN?

    Simple: They are free. You can do anything and everything on those cars without them counting toward the license limit.

    Which cars do and don't know their VIN?

    Virtually all model year 2002 and newer do know their VINs -- basically those cars with Immo-3 and up. I believe the only model year 2000 car that had Immo-3 was the Audi A8, but a few others got Immo-3 in model year 2001.

    If I sell one of my cars, can I de-register and free up that VIN slot?

    No, it doesn't work that way. VINs are stored permanently. They cannot be erased.
    Last edited by Hugh@EuropaParts; 03-30-2022 at 06:20 AM.

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    Shipping cost to Canada?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckRS View Post
    Shipping cost to Canada?
    Good morning, for shipping costs simply add to cart... it should give you various options from all three major carriers.

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    Yikes, $100 to ship via usps.
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    I have HEX+CAN interface from back in the day... Might be time to upgrade.

    If I buy one of the VIN locked ones is it possible to upgrade the interface to the pro version at some point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oripaamoni View Post
    I have HEX+CAN interface from back in the day... Might be time to upgrade.

    If I buy one of the VIN locked ones is it possible to upgrade the interface to the pro version at some point?
    Good morning, it sure is! You can always upgrade through Ross Tech directly. Here is some more information regarding upgrading.

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    You should put out a disclaimer that 2024 models can't be coded at this time. Might make for less unhappy customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kczach View Post
    You should put out a disclaimer that 2024 models can't be coded at this time. Might make for less unhappy customers.
    Long coding is not available on some models,. everything else seems to work. Ross Tech tends to update their software quite often so it should all be working soon if it doesn't already.

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    Yes I can scan and clear codes on my 24 RS7. Lots of little things I'm waiting to change. It's a great product that I've been using for years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kczach View Post
    Yes I can scan and clear codes on my 24 RS7. Lots of little things I'm waiting to change. It's a great product that I've been using for years!
    Awesome car! Are there any cool vag com mods you're aware of for that model?

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    Until they figure out the security measures I can't do anything simple like turn off the seatbelt chime or turn off the structure borne sound.

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    When will any coding be available on 2024 models?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kczach View Post
    When will any coding be available on 2024 models?
    Good morning, we haven't heard anything from Ross Tech yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kczach View Post
    You should put out a disclaimer that 2024 models can't be coded at this time. Might make for less unhappy customers.
    Not happy with Ross-Tech as an enthusiast! They Nickel/Dime customers for additional VINS, license transfers, etc and "enthusiasts" support is not worth the money. Its the backend predatory behavior to a small customer/s (4 vin customers) that i am sure is not a margin-heavy market and could care less. Be careful getting too deep into this place. To be very clear, the product works great/as intended (most of the time) and hardware quality is there. Just rediculous pricing for >3 VIN options and "customer/login" transfer fee's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love_My_Audi View Post
    Not happy with Ross-Tech as an enthusiast! They Nickel/Dime customers for additional VINS, license transfers, etc and "enthusiasts" support is not worth the money. Its the backend predatory behavior to a small customer/s (4 vin customers) that i am sure is not a margin-heavy market and could care less. Be careful getting too deep into this place. To be very clear, the product works great/as intended (most of the time) and hardware quality is there. Just rediculous pricing for >3 VIN options and "customer/login" transfer fee's!
    Ross Tech has various options from 3 vin dongles starting at $199.00 shipped to professional unlimited vin Wi-Fi (with phone app) going for $649.00 shipped.

    The original cable was $349.00 shipped, this was the price 15 years ago.

    You can still purchase a 10 vin (which is more than enough for anyone not running a high volume European auto repair shop) for less than what the cable cost 15 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh@EuropaParts View Post
    Ross Tech has various options from 3 vin dongles starting at $199.00 shipped to professional unlimited vin Wi-Fi (with phone app) going for $649.00 shipped.

    The original cable was $349.00 shipped, this was the price 15 years ago.

    You can still purchase a 10 vin (which is more than enough for anyone not running a high volume European auto repair shop) for less than what the cable cost 15 years ago.
    My only issue here is that the "enthusiast" market users DO NOT NEED 10 VINS and are not a SHOP. I am very disappointed you have a 3 VIN max for enthusiasts who do not need 10 VINS, they might need 4 or maybe 5 on a la carte basis. Another factor you are not addressing is the additional ($100) transfer of ownership/login for the device that we DO NOT ask for support licensing if you are not the original owner. This is my main issue/point/principle that is IMO only. Please know i am not speaking for anyone but myself. Thank you for listening.

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    Can you use this for air suspension adjustments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BadTundra View Post
    Can you use this for air suspension adjustments?
    Depending on vehicle, yes... we used it on a Q7 before.

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    Any news on whether Ross-Tech has made progress getting past the SFD2 security protocol on Model Year 2024+ vehicles?

    I've owned a few VCDS units before. They are awesome. I'm looking to get a new one.
    I have a 2024 RS6, and honestly, the VCDS is kinda useless right now, until the SFD2 issue gets resolved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmydee View Post
    Any news on whether Ross-Tech has made progress getting past the SFD2 security protocol on Model Year 2024+ vehicles?

    I've owned a few VCDS units before. They are awesome. I'm looking to get a new one.
    I have a 2024 RS6, and honestly, the VCDS is kinda useless right now, until the SFD2 issue gets resolved...
    Good morning, we haven't heard anything yet but Uwe is pretty active on their forums, he might have more info.

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