(New) B8/8.5 "2.0T" 1/4 mile times (NEW)

[EvolutionArmory]

We're hitting consistent 1.7 60'.

Are you talking 1.79 or 1.70 because with a 1.70 I would bet BB would have broken into the 11’s.

I’m rooting for him.


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[EvolutionArmory]

…made the switch to the dark side!!!!! It’s nice over here! This is just a start… more to come!!!

Year/Model : 2014 B8.5 CPMB Flex Fuel Engine
Transmission: ZF8
TCU Tune: Stock
ECU Tune/File/Stage: WPT K04 Flex Fuel Tune
Stacked (JB4/Dinan ...): No
Fuel/Meth/E: 36% Ethanol (mix: 93 Pump/E85)
Tire Size: 245/40/18
Full weight (if not list weight reductions): Y
Density Altitude: -3515 ft.
Date: 01/22/2022
list of Mods: CTS K04 (1070); WPT K04 FF TUNE; JHM 300 cell HFC; AWE FMIC; AWE Touring EXHAUST; APR INTAKE; KW V3 Coilovers

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Nice run. When DA gets that low I don’t even bother running my car. It’s too cold to get any decent traction for all that extra power you’re getting with the super negative DA.

The good news is that on a day that’s above freezing you’ll probably pick up a bunch off your ET. Your car probably has a 12.5 in it as is if you can get some grip.


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[Spawne32]

Nice run. When DA gets that low I don’t even bother running my car. It’s too cold to get any decent traction for all that extra power you’re getting with the super negative DA.

The good news is that on a day that’s above freezing you’ll probably pick up a bunch off your ET. Your car probably has a 12.5 in it as is if you can get some grip.


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Most of our cars are all wheel drive, so we don't really have issues with traction.

[EvolutionArmory]

Most of our cars are all wheel drive, so we don't really have issues with traction.

Your tires don’t care how many axels you have.

Cold tires and cold roads equals less traction than hotter roads and hotter tires.

I had a -4500 DA day this week. Record breaking DA. Didn’t bother running my car because it was 6 degrees out might have ran an 11.6@118 on a stage 1 tune but the tires would have just spun.

I don’t launch when it’s below freezing because the car won’t hook when the tires are as hard as hockey pucks. It’s science.


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[bb-tt]

couple runs testing some tcu tweaks today

[TylerJDubbs]

couple runs testing some tcu tweaks today

New PB! 🔥🔥🔥

[JLAllroad]

Your tires don’t care how many axels you have.

Cold tires and cold roads equals less traction than hotter roads and hotter tires.

I had a -4500 DA day this week. Record breaking DA. Didn’t bother running my car because it was 6 degrees out might have ran an 11.6@118 on a stage 1 tune but the tires would have just spun.

I don’t launch when it’s below freezing because the car won’t hook when the tires are as hard as hockey pucks. It’s science.


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So if you don’t do it…..,you don’t know, low temps would be your best case scenario for that heat magnet, at least your MPH would be telling.


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[EvolutionArmory]

So if you don’t do it…..,you don’t know, low temps would be your best case scenario for that heat magnet, at least your MPH would be telling.


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I’d rather not know than push the limit of my tires and wreck my car or worse.

Tires just aren’t warm enough to get the grip I need to get a 1.7 or better 60 foot to get a 11.7 or 11.6 ET. And driving 116 MPH when it’s 10 degrees out isn’t the smartest idea either.

For every .1 you knock off your 60 foot, that usually equals 1.5 times that off your ET. I’d need a 1.66 60 foot to run an 11.6 and it won’t happen in 10 degree weather man. Super low DA is great for power but terrible for traction when the difference of .1 or .2 matters.


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[EvolutionArmory]

Double tap

[JLAllroad]

I’d rather not know than push the limit of my tires and wreck my car or worse.

Tires just aren’t warm enough to get the grip I need to get a 1.7 or better 60 foot to get a 11.7 or 11.6 ET. And driving 116 MPH when it’s 10 degrees out isn’t the smartest idea either.

For every .1 you knock off your 60 foot, that usually equals 1.5 times that off your ET. I’d need a 1.66 60 foot to run an 11.6 and it won’t happen in 10 degree weather man. Super low DA is great for power but terrible for traction when the difference of .1 or .2 matters.


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That’s a lot of words to say I’m right, if the S4 is your summer car what is your winter car?


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[EvolutionArmory]

That’s a lot of words to say I’m right, if the S4 is your summer car what is your winter car?


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The S4 is my only car until I put a cat in my Avant. Nobody will inspect it with the test pipe right now.

I’m just trying to explain to you that you’re only looking at having super negative DA as a positive but unless you’ve tried to launch in -3000 to -4000 DA, maybe you just haven’t experienced the negatives that come with it.

Being that you’re from Colorado I doubt you’ve ever experienced a negative DA day. And definitely not negative 2000-4000. All that extra power is useless if you can’t get it to the ground


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[bb-tt]

For every .1 you knock off your 60 foot, that usually equals 1.5 times that off your ET. I’d need a 1.66 60 foot to run an 11.6 and it won’t happen in 10 degree weather man. Super low DA is great for power but terrible for traction when the difference of .1 or .2 matters.

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I wish that were true

[EvolutionArmory]

I wish that were true

It was for me. Shaving .2 off my 60 foot brought my ET down from a 12.1 to an 11.8 with all other things being equal. Were all those runs does with everything being equal or were there revisions in between?

What RPM are you launching at BB?




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[bb-tt]

anywhere from 2800- 4200 depends on conditions

[EvolutionArmory]

anywhere from 2800- 4200 depends on conditions

Maybe your car is just too heavy to do any better. I wonder if you’d be in the 11’s with a sedan.

Well I hope you get there. I wanna see it happen.


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[bb-tt]

Tyler can only do so much with my fueling situation. Also we are limiting boost since i am all stock internals.

[bb-tt]

Actually should be happy goal was to hit 12.5 now running 12.3 consistently on 93 oct on normal da day.

[EvolutionArmory]

Actually should be happy goal was to hit 12.5 now running 12.3 consistently on 93 oct on normal da day.

One thing I did notice is that it’s very consistent. Hopefully you’ll find a good fuel pump that works. Just stay away from Autotech no matter what you do. 🤣


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[JLAllroad]

The S4 is my only car until I put a cat in my Avant. Nobody will inspect it with the test pipe right now.

I’m just trying to explain to you that you’re only looking at having super negative DA as a positive but unless you’ve tried to launch in -3000 to -4000 DA, maybe you just haven’t experienced the negatives that come with it.

Being that you’re from Colorado I doubt you’ve ever experienced a negative DA day. And definitely not negative 2000-4000. All that extra power is useless if you can’t get it to the ground


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You would be better off arguing temperatures and road conditions than negative DA’s as there are plenty of DP E40 S4’s(with all that extra power) that have no problem launching (or running in general) in various surface conditions.

I’m sure that you will eventually get used to S4 power and their absolute love of running in cold conditions.


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[Spawne32]

I'm not even sure what the hell he is arguing this time around. No one here is having these phantom traction issues he speaks of. I don't even spin my tires on a launch. Snice was spinning cus he was doing dragy runs on a PA road covered in rock salt and still managed to cut a 1.9 60 ft.

[EvolutionArmory]

I live in NH bro. It’s colder here and there’s more salt.

I’m not arguing. I’m discussing. Trying to figure out if you guys are trying to throw power at a tire or suspension problem.

My intentions are good.

I’m just wondering if your cars are capable of doing better than a 1.7x 60 foot.


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[Shane Horning]

Suspension makes a huge traction difference. But I will say the zf8 is easier to pull a good 60ft on a cold slippery road than the dsg. The problem with dsg is launches with a shock which is good for dr or a grippy surface but not cold roads

[EvolutionArmory]

Suspension makes a huge traction difference. But I will say the zf8 is easier to pull a good 60ft on a cold slippery road than the dsg. The problem with dsg is launches with a shock which is good for dr or a grippy surface but not cold roads

I’m gonna try to break the stage 1 93 record before I go any further. I’m gonna try a set of Bilstein shocks with 18 pound wheels and Michelin PS4’s and see if I can get that 11.6

As of right now I’m trapping faster than some dual pulley cars so I’m pretty excited to see what I can get out of this “outdated” APR tune.


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[TylerJDubbs]

I’m gonna try to break the stage 1 93 record before I go any further. I’m gonna try a set of Bilstein shocks with 18 pound wheels and Michelin PS4’s and see if I can get that 11.6

As of right now I’m trapping faster than some dual pulley cars so I’m pretty excited to see what I can get out of this “outdated” APR tune.


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On the 3.0T I’d trust the APR stage 1 to output great power, local guy to me had me log his car on apr stage 1 and then he went IE dual pulley and I didn’t even notice a difference 😂 WOMP for IE I guess

[EvolutionArmory]

On the 3.0T I’d trust the APR stage 1 to output great power, local guy to me had me log his car on apr stage 1 and then he went IE dual pulley and I didn’t even notice a difference WOMP for IE I guess

But 9 out of 10 people would tell you that IE is better 🤣🤣

They really suck and should stick to hardware.


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[JLAllroad]

I’m gonna try to break the stage 1 93 record before I go any further. I’m gonna try a set of Bilstein shocks with 18 pound wheels and Michelin PS4’s and see if I can get that 11.6

As of right now I’m trapping faster than some dual pulley cars so I’m pretty excited to see what I can get out of this “outdated” APR tune.


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If you’re not running a trans tune with variable launch rpm and +7k shifts you need to.

Maybe start a 3.0T or S4 quarter mile thread…

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[EvolutionArmory]

If you’re not running a trans tune with variable launch rpm and +7k shifts you need to.

Maybe start a 3.0T or S4 quarter mile thread…

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Nah man. This thread is the most interesting thread on Audizine. This place is a ghost town.

Guess I’ll have to get an A6 or VW van to be able to hang out here?

And I have a trans tune brother. I wouldn’t be running 11’s or trap 116.5 without it.

I can’t wait to see what BB does with an EFR. It’s a shame APR stopped selling manifolds because their manifolds were the business!!


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[bb-tt]

Year/Model - 2011 A4 Avant
Transmission - ZF8
TCU Tune - HPT
ECU Tune/File/Stage - WPT STG4
Stacked (JB4/Dinan ...) - No
Fuel/Meth/E - 93
Tire Size - 255/35/19
Full weight (if not list weight reductions) - Yes 4160 lbs
Density Altitude -1334
Date 01/22/2022


list of Mods

2011a4 Avant,
BW EFR 6258, IE FDS IC, E-code charge pipes & sound box delete, TTRS calipers 355*32 rotors/ s4 rears,
ECU Ward Performance Tuning stge4 93 oct tune
TCU HP tuners (self tune/Berk)

[TylerJDubbs]

Year/Model - 2011 A4 Avant
Transmission - ZF8
TCU Tune - HPT
ECU Tune/File/Stage - WPT STG4
Stacked (JB4/Dinan ...) - No
Fuel/Meth/E - 93
Tire Size - 255/35/19
Full weight (if not list weight reductions) - Yes 4160 lbs
Density Altitude -1334
Date 01/22/2022


list of Mods

2011a4 Avant,
BW EFR 6258, IE FDS IC, E-code charge pipes & sound box delete, TTRS calipers 355*32 rotors/ s4 rears,
ECU Ward Performance Tuning stge4 93 oct tune
TCU HP tuners (self tune/Berk)

Its a Spicy Meatball :D

[bb-tt]

Got some runs in today

Year/Model - 2011 A4 Avant
Transmission - ZF8
TCU Tune - HPT
ECU Tune/File/Stage - WPT STG4
Stacked (JB4/Dinan ...) - No
Fuel/Meth/E - e20
Tire Size - 255/35/19
Full weight (if not list weight reductions) - Yes 4160 lbs
Density Altitude -1230
Date 02/26/2022


list of Mods

2011a4 Avant,
BW EFR 6258, IE FDS IC, E-code charge pipes & sound box delete, TTRS calipers 355*32 rotors/ s4 rears,
ECU Ward Performance Tuning stge4 93 oct tune
TCU HP tuners (self tune/Berk)

[TylerJDubbs]

Got some runs in today

Year/Model - 2011 A4 Avant
Transmission - ZF8
TCU Tune - HPT
ECU Tune/File/Stage - WPT STG4
Stacked (JB4/Dinan ...) - No
Fuel/Meth/E - e20
Tire Size - 255/35/19
Full weight (if not list weight reductions) - Yes 4160 lbs
Density Altitude -1230
Date 02/26/2022


list of Mods

2011a4 Avant,
BW EFR 6258, IE FDS IC, E-code charge pipes & sound box delete, TTRS calipers 355*32 rotors/ s4 rears,
ECU Ward Performance Tuning stge4 93 oct tune
TCU HP tuners (self tune/Berk)

The consistency on this setup is mind blowing

[19birel]

Year/Model: 2013 A4 Quattro
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune/File/Stage: IE Stage 2
Stacked (JB4/Dinan ...): JB4 Map 6 self tuned
Fuel/Meth/E: 93 octane
Tire Size: 255/35/19
Full weight (if not list weight reductions): Stock weight
Density Altitude: 535ft.
Date: March 23, 2022
list of Mods: IE Stage 2 93 Octane, BMS JB4, DNA Test pipe, 3.0TDI fmic, Fluidampr, BMC drop-in filter, R8 coils, BMS Pedal Tuner, 19x9" D4 A8 Wheels, C7 A7 bbk

Figured I'd post something so I'm at least not the lone soul in the 14s lol Was out of meth, but wanted to give my stock clutch a final send off before the new one gets installed. It seemed to hold up to the 5 runs and then got pretty unhappy after the last one. As usual a crappy launch on my part

[EvolutionArmory]

Any updates from BB since getting a good high pressure fuel pump?


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[cybernet99]

Alright ... I've got to get in on this fun! While my A4 2.0 is still a couple of months from getting together and on the road to put down some real times ... What is a good place and a good price to buy a Dragy from?

I see CDN it is available from dragy.ca for $198.00 CDN. plus shipping. Any better options?

[TylerJDubbs]

Alright ... I've got to get in on this fun! While my A4 2.0 is still a couple of months from getting together and on the road to put down some real times ... What is a good place and a good price to buy a Dragy from?

I see CDN it is available from dragy.ca for $198.00 CDN. plus shipping. Any better options?

Bruh, I have a dragy. Borrow whenever

[cybernet99]

Bruh, I have a dragy. Borrow whenever

lol. Awesome. I’m kind of curious to see what the Benz will do. but of course really want to see what the A4 will do!!


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[bb-tt]

Year/Model: 2013 A4 Quattro
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
TCU Tune: N/A
ECU Tune/File/Stage: IE Stage 2
Stacked (JB4/Dinan ...): JB4 Map 6 self tuned
Fuel/Meth/E: 93 octane
Tire Size: 255/35/19
Full weight (if not list weight reductions): Stock weight
Density Altitude: 535ft.
Date: March 23, 2022
list of Mods: IE Stage 2 93 Octane, BMS JB4, DNA Test pipe, 3.0TDI fmic, Fluidampr, BMC drop-in filter, R8 coils, BMS Pedal Tuner, 19x9" D4 A8 Wheels, C7 A7 bbk

Figured I'd post something so I'm at least not the lone soul in the 14s lol Was out of meth, but wanted to give my stock clutch a final send off before the new one gets installed. It seemed to hold up to the 5 runs and then got pretty unhappy after the last one. As usual a crappy launch on my part

Update chart in 1st post. Hopefully significant improvement when you get clutch in.

[19birel]

Update chart in 1st post. Hopefully significant improvement when you get clutch in.

Hoping I can launch it a bit harder now, my 60ft times have never been great haha. I also got a lightweight flywheel so I'm sure the ~9lbs of rotating mass that saved should make a difference. Just pottering around as I break the clutch in, I can certainly notice how the engine revs much more freely.

[JLAllroad]

Hoping I can launch it a bit harder now, my 60ft times have never been great haha. I also got a lightweight flywheel so I'm sure the ~9lbs of rotating mass that saved should make a difference. Just pottering around as I break the clutch in, I can certainly notice how the engine revs much more freely.

Lighter flywheel will hurt launch, will need more RPMs, but generally better in most other driving situations.


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[19birel]

Lighter flywheel will hurt launch, will need more RPMs, but generally better in most other driving situations.


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The stronger clutch should enable me to launch from higher rpm more aggressively though, so hopefully we're good there. Previously I was stock clutch with 107k miles and the transmission output shaft seal was leaking contaminating the clutch. Now running Spec Stage 3+ rated to 495lbs/ft (car probably makes 350ish) so I won't have to baby it off the line like before.