034Motorsport B9 Parts, Tuning, and Upcoming Product Thread!

[Boss240]

Just out of curiosity, what sort of upgrade are you guys looking for that's in the middle of the road? Just wanting some drilled holes or slots to make them pretty?

Something that is better than stock. What that means I don't really know as I'm not an expert. I don't care about pretty looks although I have heard that slotted rotors help clean the pads so they don't get deposits to build up causing what people think may be warped rotors. Or maybe I got that all wrong.

So would the rear rotors offered by Stoptech be the same quality as the stock ones or a mild upgrade for a reasonable price?

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[Boss240]

While our 034Motorsport rotors are $880 each, this is a serious bang-for-your-buck. Because this is a two-piece rotor, it not only allows for overall lighter weight, but retains proper thermal mass in the rings to adequately capture, and dissipate heat. The pins take the load from braking events while maintaining the axial and radial float between the hat and disc, allowing for safe expansion and contraction from heat.

From the factory, the same straight-veined rotor is used on both sides of the S4. The 034Motorsport rotors utilize 72 directionally curved vanes to forcefully flow cool air through the rotor to dissipate heat and are unique to the left and right axle to provide a substantial increase in cooling efficiency over the factory rotor design.

Additionally, while not yet listed on our website, replacement rotors and hardware will be available on our website for $550.

These rotors have gone through extensive testing on several of our vehicles and we can assure you these are some of the highest quality performance rotors available on the market. They will certainly outperform many of the options available today.

Ultimately, to make a cheaper rotor, we would have to make a worse rotor that does not improve performance. 034Motorsport is not in the business of making subpar products, nor will we put our name on something that could be better. There are many names out there that are willing to do so, but that is not us.

What makes 034Motorsport special is the time, effort, and expense we put into designing, developing, engineering, testing, and producing high-quality products for the Audi VW and BMW aftermarket. We strive to provide the best substantive product available, and we will continue to do so with everything we produce.

-Sean@034

You guys having a black Friday sale coming up that would include the rotors lol

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[SonnyS4]

While our 034Motorsport rotors are $880 each, this is a serious bang-for-your-buck. Because this is a two-piece rotor, it not only allows for overall lighter weight, but retains proper thermal mass in the rings to adequately capture, and dissipate heat. The pins take the load from braking events while maintaining the axial and radial float between the hat and disc, allowing for safe expansion and contraction from heat.

From the factory, the same straight-veined rotor is used on both sides of the S4. The 034Motorsport rotors utilize 72 directionally curved vanes to forcefully flow cool air through the rotor to dissipate heat and are unique to the left and right axle to provide a substantial increase in cooling efficiency over the factory rotor design.

Additionally, while not yet listed on our website, replacement rotors and hardware will be available on our website for $550.

These rotors have gone through extensive testing on several of our vehicles and we can assure you these are some of the highest quality performance rotors available on the market. They will certainly outperform many of the options available today.

Ultimately, to make a cheaper rotor, we would have to make a worse rotor that does not improve performance. 034Motorsport is not in the business of making subpar products, nor will we put our name on something that could be better. There are many names out there that are willing to do so, but that is not us.

What makes 034Motorsport special is the time, effort, and expense we put into designing, developing, engineering, testing, and producing high-quality products for the Audi VW and BMW aftermarket. We strive to provide the best substantive product available, and we will continue to do so with everything we produce.

-Sean@034

None of use are debating that your rotors aren’t a good deal for the performance that they offer. The problem is there are many of us that don’t want to pay $1700 for rotors we don’t really need for our daily. $880 is still more than most want to pay for all 4 rotors. Not to mention we still have to buy pads. There’s definitely a market for a full front and rear rotor set that’s an upgrade over stock and is sub $880. It’s the exact same ideology as you did with your air intake. You offered a great, albeit expensive, carbon one that not every one wanted to shell out for and then offered a more affordable non carbon option. The same could be applied with providing a solid upgrade to the oem rotors that can sit under your track ready two piece ones. Win win for everyone.


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[Boss240]

None of use are debating that your rotors aren’t a good deal for the performance that they offer. The problem is there are many of us that don’t want to pay $1700 for rotors we don’t really need for our daily. $880 is still more than most want to pay for all 4 rotors. Not to mention we still have to buy pads. There’s definitely a market for a full front and rear rotor set that’s an upgrade over stock and is sub $880. It’s the exact same ideology as you did with your air intake. You offered a great, albeit expensive, carbon one that not every one wanted to shell out for and then offered a more affordable non carbon option. The same could be applied with providing a solid upgrade to the oem rotors that can sit under your track ready two piece ones. Win win for everyone.


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Agreed. Maybe if more people spoke up wanting a lower cost option 034 would see the benefits of producing a product for the majority of us who don't need such an expensive upgrade or the need for such a high performance rotor. Or maybe we are the only 2 that don't wanna shell out $2k for brakes.

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[gpm24780]

ECS offers all 4 rotors for $1,200 (drilled/slotted) and their 2 piece as well with aluminum hats. Not as good as good as 034 but still a good option. I had them on 18 B9 S4 no issues whatsoever and will probably do the same for my 19 B9 S5 when the time comes.

[brilliant_black]

I so badly want to go the 034 route (or even EPL) but since APR is the only one committed to CARB approved tunes and more importantly has CARB approved tunes/items currently, I feel like I am pigeonholed into a tune I don't want (and no TCU tune) since I plan on keeping this car long term. Does 034 have any CARB approved items (tune or otherwise) currently? If I knew with 100% certainty I will have CARB approval retroactively, I will legit get the ECU/TCU bundle next month when I take the car into my indie for oil change, FMIC, and lip replacement. I know you can't really guarantee it, but for example APR makes it pretty clear it's a big part of their business model going forward - they will be chasing certification for CARB on all their tunes. I figure since 034 is based in Nor Cal they would be into the same ethos, but that's an assumption - maybe 95% of their tunes are sold outside CA? Who knows. Point being, I DO NOT want to buy tune X but then end up with APR anyways and double paying (especially if the original tune is much better in terms of driving dynamics). If 034 can say with 100% certainty that CARB is coming (even if it takes another year or two), then I am in since I won't have to smog the car till 2026. Sounds far away, but we are almost in 2022 already and my car only has 10k miles due to the pandemic.

Even if you get a carb legal tune, you’ll still have to flash back to stock for smog in California. They check for tunes now. If it isn’t oem it fails.


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[SonnyS4]

ECS offers all 4 rotors for $1,200 (drilled/slotted) and their 2 piece as well with aluminum hats. Not as good as good as 034 but still a good option. I had them on 18 B9 S4 no issues whatsoever and will probably do the same for my 19 B9 S5 when the time comes.

I’ve debated those but for me even those are pricey. I know I’m punching a little above my weight class owning a b9 so I’m still in sticker shock with how expensive parts are for this platform. I made the switch from BMW and I feel like aftermarket parts are way cheaper on that side


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[JonDHansen]

For the people complaining about brake prices, you probably shouldn’t plan on modifying a $60,000 car if you can’t afford a $2,000 brake setup.. maybe it’s just me, but I feel like that kind of price comes with this kind of car..


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[SonnyS4]

Agreed. Maybe if more people spoke up wanting a lower cost option 034 would see the benefits of producing a product for the majority of us who don't need such an expensive upgrade or the need for such a high performance rotor. Or maybe we are the only 2 that don't wanna shell out $2k for brakes.

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Looks like APR might be answering our wishes. They just announced affordable replacement rotors for multiple platforms. Not b9 yet but it looks like they may offer it somewhat soon


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[Sierra Audi]

Even if you get a carb legal tune, you’ll still have to flash back to stock for smog in California. They check for tunes now. If it isn’t oem it fails.


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Brilliant, are you sure this is correct? I studied the new law and from what I was able to decipher, smog shops are using a new software that interrogates the ECU for non stock files. If those files do not match a pre compiled list of CARB approved tunes, the car will be rejected. However, if the scan finds the tune is approved, the car will pass as long as it meets the emissions standards.

[Boss240]

Looks like APR might be answering our wishes. They just announced affordable replacement rotors for multiple platforms. Not b9 yet but it looks like they may offer it somewhat soon


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Good to know.

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[Boss240]

For the people complaining about brake prices, you probably shouldn’t plan on modifying a $60,000 car if you can’t afford a $2,000 brake setup.. maybe it’s just me, but I feel like that kind of price comes with this kind of car..


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[Sierra Audi]

For the people complaining about brake prices, you probably shouldn’t plan on modifying a $60,000 car if you can’t afford a $2,000 brake setup.. maybe it’s just me, but I feel like that kind of price comes with this kind of car..


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Jon, I agree with your statement but didn’t want to suffer the wrath for saying it first. The OEM rotors are outstanding and will hold up to pretty much anything a driver could throw at the car except for extreme track days. I’ll speak for myself and say the only reason that I upgraded to 2 piece, drilled/slotted rotors was because they look cool. I really don’t think most owners will notice a difference between OEM and the 034 option unless they drive the car in an extreme manner. 034 is simply offering a product that is far better than stock for someone that wants to push their car. If that’s not what you need then don’t buy them. I don’t feel that 034 should take an internet beating for making nice stuff.

[Boss240]

First off no one is bashing 034 for producing a great performance set of rotors that can handle track duty. Plus I was also not saying I can't afford it or anyone else can't for that matter. What I did was ask if 034 planned on producing a cheaper alternative to what they just released as I'm sure the majority of us don't need that crazy of an upgrade every 2 years to daily the car to work everyday.

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[njavier03]

Agreed. Maybe if more people spoke up wanting a lower cost option 034 would see the benefits of producing a product for the majority of us who don't need such an expensive upgrade or the need for such a high performance rotor. Or maybe we are the only 2 that don't wanna shell out $2k for brakes.

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ECS offers all 4 rotors for $1,200 (drilled/slotted) and their 2 piece as well with aluminum hats. Not as good as good as 034 but still a good option. I had them on 18 B9 S4 no issues whatsoever and will probably do the same for my 19 B9 S5 when the time comes.

ECS is probably the route i'll go with. dont get me wrong 034, your rotors seem very promising for someone that will need them on the track. i just dont need all that for daily driving. hopefully, one day you guys might decide to develop a daily/street option.

For the people complaining about brake prices, you probably shouldn’t plan on modifying a $60,000 car if you can’t afford a $2,000 brake setup.. maybe it’s just me, but I feel like that kind of price comes with this kind of car..


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its not about the price. its the value for the price. its not that the rotors arent worth it. its that most of us are daily driving these cars, so its a little excessive in terms of spec.

[will13k7]

Love these rotors, oem smooth, stand up to a beating, and have an unique look.

[will13k7]

I so badly want to go the 034 route (or even EPL) but since APR is the only one committed to CARB approved tunes and more importantly has CARB approved tunes/items currently, I feel like I am pigeonholed into a tune I don't want (and no TCU tune) since I plan on keeping this car long term. Does 034 have any CARB approved items (tune or otherwise) currently? If I knew with 100% certainty I will have CARB approval retroactively, I will legit get the ECU/TCU bundle next month when I take the car into my indie for oil change, FMIC, and lip replacement.

With flash at home, just flash back to stock a couple weeks before and get some miles on it to set all the smog components to ready. Also a FMIC would need carb approval too, though a random smog check place might not notice it if you are lucky, but a state referee would.

[A12rnx]

For the people complaining about brake prices, you probably shouldn’t plan on modifying a $60,000 car if you can’t afford a $2,000 brake setup.. maybe it’s just me, but I feel like that kind of price comes with this kind of car..


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I completely agree with you. It’s the same as people who put budget tires on the car also. The only thing in contact with the ground are the 4 small patches of rubber.

[gpm24780]

The only other thing I would mention/add is that when I had my 18 B9 S4, the quote I received from the dealer to replace just the rear rotors/pads was the same if not more expensive than what ECS or 034 are asking for their respective rotors. So why not go with a better product even if you don’t utilize the full benefit ? Stopping power should be better than OEM especially if you upgrade the brake fluid (i.e. Motul, etc) along with it.

[Trentimus]

The only other thing I would mention/add is that when I had my 18 B9 S4, the quote I received from the dealer to replace just the rear rotors/pads was the same if not more expensive than what ECS or 034 are asking for their respective rotors. So why not go with a better product even if you don’t utilize the full benefit ? Stopping power should be better than OEM especially if you upgrade the brake fluid (i.e. Motul, etc) along with it.

Your dealer was trying to hose you. OEM rotors aren’t even close.

The only defense of 034 necessary here is #1 high quality brake parts have never been cheap #2 you gotta pay to play


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[SonnyS4]

The only point we’re trying to make here is that 034 could have a market for making a rotor that fits in between their two piece and oem. If you want the most high quality two piece rotor then yeah go for it. It’s definitely worth it as 034 products are amazing. But not all us want/need a product like that. I think there’s room for both on this platform. Same exact reason why there’s a stage 1 tune and then a stage 2 for people that want more. People just want more options.

And on that bombshell we can end this with just saying we’re all appreciative that 034 is here making excellent products for us to enjoy


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[oc cc]

With flash at home, just flash back to stock a couple weeks before and get some miles on it to set all the smog components to ready. Also a FMIC would need carb approval too, though a random smog check place might not notice it if you are lucky, but a state referee would.

I wanted to double check this, but Googling did not yield concrete results. All I found from the CARB website is:

"Exempted parts are add-on or modified parts that have undergone a CARB engineering evaluation. If the part or modification is shown to not increase vehicle emissions, it is granted an exemption to emission control system anti-tampering laws. This exemption is called an Executive Order (EO) and allows the modification to be installed on specific emission controlled vehicles. Every Executive Order part or modification has an assigned number that can be verified by Smog Check stations, BAR Referee stations, or by CARB."

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/prog...-and-add-parts


Either way, I am 0% interested in tuners who don't intend on getting CARB approval because I live in California and will likely stay here for the foreseeable future. I am glad 034 mentioned CARB approval because I am now likely to tune with them next month.

[will13k7]

I wanted to double check this, but Googling did not yield concrete results. All I found from the CARB website is...

I'm just some random internet person, but all they do is plug-in and run over the data in the ecu to come up with a signature. Then they compare that signature to the ones they have collected from the OEMs and any CARB approved tuners. If your car is flashed with a version of the OEM tune for your make/model, or a CARB approved version, a matching signature will be found and you pass that part of the test. If you forget to flash to stock or buy a car that is unknowingly tuned, you can correct this by getting it flashed back to stock and retested. This is the same as taking off hardware (downpiple, intake, fmic) before getting smogged, the same game car enthusiasts has been playing for decades. Use this information as you wish

[oc cc]

Ok follow up question for 034 (or others if they know)...

TCU Lite vs Full TCU Tune - as I understand only the former is available (and required with the ECU tune), what benefits does it offer currently and what benefits will the full TCU tune offer? Any detail and info is good (especially ones that differentiate them). And no need to copy and paste product page templated info, just quick bullet points is all I ask.

[034Motorsport]

Ok follow up question for 034 (or others if they know)...

TCU Lite vs Full TCU Tune - as I understand only the former is available (and required with the ECU tune), what benefits does it offer currently and what benefits will the full TCU tune offer? Any detail and info is good (especially ones that differentiate them). And no need to copy and paste product page templated info, just quick bullet points is all I ask.

We cannot share details of what our Stage 2 TCU file will include at this time as it is still in the final stages of development. Once it is available, we will provide all the features in a detailed manner and how they complement the changes already done on the ECU side.

-Nick@034

[SHCKR]

ECS offers all 4 rotors for $1,200 (drilled/slotted) and their 2 piece as well with aluminum hats. Not as good as good as 034 but still a good option. I had them on 18 B9 S4 no issues whatsoever and will probably do the same for my 19 B9 S5 when the time comes.

Not as good as 034... I would actually love to see some comparison stopping power/distance/heat, etc.
Willing to be a guinea pig if Sean sends me a set to thoroughly test/compare!

[034Motorsport]

Not as good as 034... I would actually love to see some comparison stopping power/distance/heat, etc.
Willing to be a guinea pig if Sean sends me a set to thoroughly test/compare!

We're pretty confident in stating that our brake rotors are one of the highest quality performance rotors available on the market. They will certainly outperform many of the options available today.

We do extensive testing on any product before releasing, especially on our brake rotors, which are at the end of the day a safety product. We've tested and continue to test our brake rotors on several of the chassis we develop products for. As a testament, we recently went out to Laguna Seca with our R8 with our Brake Rotor upgrade and ran hot laps for a little over an hour straight, giving passenger ride alongs. Laguna Seca, from personal experience, is one of the hardest tracks on your brakes, and putting any car on track for that long is surely going to test your braking system.

We recently gave a set to a local customer who converted his Audi R8 to race in the USTCC and we have the utmost confidence that these rotors are up to the task of full-on W2W racing.





-Sean@034

[18GlacierS4]

If you send me those rotors and the graphics like your 17 test car ill slap your logo all over my car for a free set lol


JK.. These rotors might be in my future though

[brilliant_black]

Can anyone else report if this is normal?
I’m on E85 Stage 2 R2.0

Whenever I shift into reverse or back into drive the rpms jump ever so slightly and you can feel a shudder.

I do have the transmission insert as well.

I don’t recall the car doing this before. Otherwise it shifts, drives, launches totally fine.


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[Auditude437]

Hello,

Will 034 come out with a stage 3 hybrid tune with the TTE710? If so, what's the timetable for it? Does/will the 034 shop car have a TTE710?

[volyer]

Love the 034 stage 1 tune I'm running. Smooth as stock or smoother, crisp shifts, and much more power. Ordered parts for S2 next!

[034Motorsport]

Hello,

Will 034 come out with a stage 3 hybrid tune with the TTE710? If so, what's the timetable for it? Does/will the 034 shop car have a TTE710?

We are actively working on Stage 3 tuning for the TTE710 and Pure750. We do not have a specific release date at this time. We have both turbos in hand.

Love the 034 stage 1 tune I'm running. Smooth as stock or smoother, crisp shifts, and much more power. Ordered parts for S2 next!

Glad to hear you're loving the tune so far!

-Sean@034

[INS4NE_B9]

Can't wait to see the results. I'll be interested to see if it's worth the extra coin to go with the TTE versus the Pure turbo.

[Boss240]

You guys having a black Friday sale coming up?

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[beaubienb]

You guys having a black Friday sale coming up?

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THIS!

[thermobryan]

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[034Motorsport]

You guys having a black Friday sale coming up?

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We've had Black Friday Sales every year for the past 10+ years. We don't anticipate skipping this year.

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They're are actively being worked on and will be ready when they are ready.

-Sean@034

[non-polarbear]

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Yo.... just stop with this epl vs 034 bs. Lets all just enjoy our badass cars whether they are stock, 034, uni, apr, ie, or epl.

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[thermobryan]

Yo.... just stop with this epl vs 034 bs. Lets all just enjoy our badass cars whether they are stock, 034, uni, apr, ie, or epl.

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I do what I want.

[will13k7]

I do what I want.