Has anyone installed the CETE lowering module in their RS6 yet?

[Jimminez]

Just want to reiterate this is how my car behaves as well. Except the suspension options for the RS mode configurations are labeled "comfort," "balanced," and "sport" instead of "comfort," "auto," and, "dynamic" drive select modes. But the three are the same as far as the cete is concerned.

I thought I had read someone say that the cete profile doesn't change when switching into an RS mode - that is not the case (unless the RS mode suspension setting is set to the drive select mode you had selected before of course).

Correct. The module links to the suspension setting and not drive mode. As Alex mentioned, RS modes are like what Individual is in other vehicles, where you can program the suspension mode from one of the three options that link to the drive select modes.

To note, if you turn the car off in an RS mode, it will start up in Auto. Audi loves to not let you leave your vehicle in Individual/RS mode.

[Grundel76]

I’m just gonna let the heat die down for a couple months. I think I gave a total eye roll when the service advisor said that he ran it by the warranty people and they said no. I was like, “Why the heck would you even do that? I thought you guys were cool.” After all, the dealership is installing my exhaust.

So for all of you that did a self install, not too bad???

[DeputyDog95]

Just want to reiterate this is how my car behaves as well. Except the suspension options for the RS mode configurations are labeled "comfort," "balanced," and "sport" instead of "comfort," "auto," and, "dynamic" drive select modes. But the three are the same as far as the cete is concerned.

I thought I had read someone say that the cete profile doesn't change when switching into an RS mode - that is not the case (unless the RS mode suspension setting is set to the drive select mode you had selected before of course).

That was probably me and it turns out it was likely a coincidence on my part.

I have my Comfort and Dynamic set to -25mm. Auto is set to +10mm.

I have RS1 set to whatever is full suspension soft and RS2 set to full suspension hard, so if those suspension settings are corresponding to the Comfort and Dynamic drive modes and I'm in either of those modes, that explains why I don't see a change in ride height when I switch between RS modes and regular modes provided I started in Comfort or Dynamic. I only use auto for crappy roads or steep drives.

I need to test RS2 and see what the CETE app says. I've looked while in RS1 mode, and the app reflects that it's still in Comfort mode.

So this all makes more sense if the RS suspension settings marry up to the drive modes, even if the names are slightly different.

[DeputyDog95]

Correct. The module links to the suspension setting and not drive mode. As Alex mentioned, RS modes are like what Individual is in other vehicles, where you can program the suspension mode from one of the three options that link to the drive select modes.

To note, if you turn the car off in an RS mode, it will start up in Auto. Audi loves to not let you leave your vehicle in Individual/RS mode.

As Nemesis says, the car automatically returns to Auto mode regardless of what drive mode you started in, if you turn the car off in an RS mode.

For example, if I'm in comfort, fire up the RS mode, and shut the car down... When I come back and start the car again, it will go into auto mode on it's own (it's an Audi thing apparently) and in my case, raise the car up 10mm. This threw me for a loop the first few times it happened and noticed that the car was all jacked up.

So now I need to switch it out of RS mode before I shut it down if I don't want the car to raise on its own. No biggie.

The only thing I can't figure out is that appears to have raised on it's own after I parked the car in RS1. Typically I had to shut the car down, and turn it on again before it went into Auto and lifted up. However, I've had a couple of instances where I came out and the car was lifted... Who knows, maybe I power cycled the car after coming out of RS mode and didn't notice the car was lifted after shutting it down again. Seems odd to me... If I shut the car down outside of the RS modes, no issues at all. The CETE seems to have a connection for a bit after you shut the car down. Maybe I shut it off and was hanging out around the car for a bit, the car set itself to Auto in prep for the next startup, and I was there long enough for the car to raise before the connection to the CETE was finally terminated.

[DeputyDog95]

So, I did a longer highway drive the other day (haven't had a real chance earlier just because my commute to work is always in traffic)

Had it in Dynamic, 83mph (135kmh) for a good 5 minutes, had the RS monitor on, the car did NOT lower to 1 bar on MMI... but again, I don't know if the cars are programmed differently in US vs Canada

We are able to customize fully on whatever function we want in RS1 and RS2

For example, if you set the suspension height for

-20mm at Comfort / -35mm at Auto / -40mm at Dynamic

the height of the car will adjust accordingly base on the suspension setting you choose in the RS1/RS2 mode (-20mm at Comfort / -35mm at Auto / -40mm at Dynamic)

I have a feeling that is a USA-Canada variation.

I've tested all three modes on my US car, and it does not lower at speed in Comfort, but does automatically lower to 1 bar when put into Auto or Dynamic.

So if everything is correct as related to how the drive modes correspond to the RS suspension modes, the car will not lower in the RS modes if set to full soft, but will lower if you have the RS modes set to either the middle or full stiff. At least on US cars.

This is why I have my comfort mode set to -25 as this is where I spend most of my time. The car won't lower at speed and will readily shift into 8th.

Dynamic on the other hand doesn't want to go into 7th on the highway, and won't hold 8th. Not a fun highway mode.

So I set my RS1 to full soft suspension (Comfort) and everything else to aggressive. That way the ride height stays the same, it doesn't lower at speed, and you can bounce between a relaxed driving experience and something more aggressive. I like the softer suspension even in the RS modes.

So I pretty much just bounce between Comfort and RS1. Don't really have the need for any of the other modes. Except for a raised ride height in Auto. That seems to work for me, so long as I remember to turn off RS mode before shutting the car down.

[Ven2323]

Trying to make sure i have the correct iPhone app for the CETE controller... the one I downloaded shows A6 4G - isn't that the C7? Is this the vehicle you have chosen for the C8 Avant? I'll be installing the unit next week, just trying to avoid any issues. Thanks for any feedback.

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Trying to make sure i have the correct iPhone app for the CETE controller... the one I downloaded shows A6 4G - isn't that the C7? Is this the vehicle you have chosen for the C8 Avant? I'll be installing the unit next week, just trying to avoid any issues. Thanks for any feedback.

The app will be Active Suspension Control BLE.

The Select Car Model on the left hand upper menu just changes the picture of the car on the main screen. It has no bearing on the settings or firmware on the modules. These are programmed here remotely before shipping with the proper firmware for all orders placed here or for authorized North American resellers.

I will ask CETE if they can add the RS6/7 silhouette as an option to select in the Select Car Model. Again it just changes the pictured car on the main screen, nothing else.

Cheers,

[Ven2323]

Thanks for the quick reply and the info! I figured as much, just wanted to make sure.

[gpoulos]

Finally ordered the CETE and some spacers.
After I lower it I will get it aligned.

Question..What do you do when you go in for your service? I prepaid Audi care so I will use the dealer.

Do I raise it to stock then have it fail alignment and tell them to ignore the alignment check?

Do I leave it at say -20mm and say nothing?


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[DRKNESS65]

^^^ That is a really great question, I’ll need to find this out before adding one to my cart.

[DeputyDog95]

Finally ordered the CETE and some spacers.
After I lower it I will get it aligned.

Question..What do you do when you go in for your service? I prepaid Audi care so I will use the dealer.

Do I raise it to stock then have it fail alignment and tell them to ignore the alignment check?

Do I leave it at say -20mm and say nothing?


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I have the prepaid maintenance as well.
Is a "mandatory" alignment part of the program?

I for one am just going to bring it in at stock ride height and not discuss the matter further unless it comes up.

If they press the matter, I guess you could be honest with them. Or, you could lie and say you normally run the car lower, but had your shop bring it back up to stock height for the service visit. Although that sounds overly complicated, even for a lie LOL

[jmy_oak]

Unless things have changed standard service/audicare doesn’t cover alignment. I’ve always had to pay extra for that. I’m just going to roll in on auto - factory level. If you are worried don’t do the mod.


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As far as I have seen Audi has really gotten the air suspension fairly bulletproof on these cars and even the previous generation. It would be super rare to have a major suspension issue with any of these cars out of box or in standard warranty range. If you want to hide the lowering modules existence just set your heights on the app back to stock and unless a tech is pulling off the undertray panels in multiple spots or is super nosey would the setup ever get spotted. I doubt most techs would even bat an eyelash on these cars, let alone note it down manually in your car's notes.

As for alignments, these cars have a reasonable range already with the air suspension so the alignment will vary even in that height range. If you plan to run your car more than 25mm lower all of the time or much of the time you drive it then an alignment isn't a bad idea. However with that said you cannot adjust out negative camber at the front to alleviate inner edge tire wear when lowered quite a bit.

When lowering 30mm or more and driving all the time like that I would suggest an alignment where the front toe is set to zero or close to it with the rest of the alignment at factory spec or as close as possible. This helps alleviate inner front tire edge wear and makes the car turn in better as well. One side effect is the car can tramline and bumpsteer a tiny bit more, but it's not enough to outweight the benefits. Also rotates wheels/tires front to back every oil change as a way to even out wear.

Cheers,

[DeputyDog95]

Does anyone know what the max height you can set the RS6 for using the CETE?

And at that height, can you still hit the raise button in the MMI?

I've got some wicked driveways to contend with at times.

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If you set the car to Comfort you can lift that +30mm over stock. You could do a bit of overlanding at that point I'd guess. Any factory lifting function will still work on top of it until you hit any physical limit of the suspension which I doubt anyone here has tested yet with an RS6/7.

Cheers,

[DeputyDog95]

If you set the car to Comfort you can lift that +30mm over stock. You could do a bit of overlanding at that point I'd guess. Any factory lifting function will still work on top of it until you hit any physical limit of the suspension which I doubt anyone here has tested yet with an RS6/7.

Cheers,

Great, thank you for the information.

So the range is -55 for show mode and +30 in Comfort?

Can you go +30 in Auto as well? I use Auto as my "crappy road or steep driveway" mode and is currently set to +10, but would like to set it to where I can safely max it out.

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The range for all modes is -55mm to +30mm. You can do that in any main drive select mode you want.

You could run +30mm in Auto and just note that in Auto the car is adjusting the height based on several factors more so than Dynamic or Comfort.

Remember that the CETE setup is lowering or lifting from the stock height of the air suspension. So if Auto is lowering the car or lifting the car as it does normally the CETE module is adding or removing height from the factory controlled ride height.

Cheers,

[DeputyDog95]

The range for all modes is -55mm to +30mm. You can do that in any main drive select mode you want.

You could run +30mm in Auto and just note that in Auto the car is adjusting the height based on several factors more so than Dynamic or Comfort.

Remember that the CETE setup is lowering or lifting from the stock height of the air suspension. So if Auto is lowering the car or lifting the car as it does normally the CETE module is adding or removing height from the factory controlled ride height.

Cheers,

Gotcha.

So to confirm, the only time the RS6 changes ride height on it's own is when the car is in Auto or Dynamic and you exceed 75mph?

On my RS6 anyway, it never goes above 5 bars in the MMI unless you press the lift button, and it never goes below 3 bars in the MMI, unless you're in Auto or Dynamic and exceed 75mph.

I was planning on only using Auto for low speed stuff....

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[The_Capt]

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The color is amazing!!! What is it?


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[ad2330]

The color is amazing!!! What is it?


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British Racing Green. Thanks!


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[DeputyDog95]

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If I had had the opportunity to spec one, it would look exactly like this.

[jmy_oak]

British Racing Green. Thanks!


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Looking good! Is that show mode in the pic you posted in the pic thread?


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[ad2330]

Looking good! Is that show mode in the pic you posted in the pic thread?


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It is. Here’s dynamic with same side profile shot:




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That is looking amazing! Love the green with yellow combo.

Cheers,

[Ven2323]

The app will be Active Suspension Control BLE.

The Select Car Model on the left hand upper menu just changes the picture of the car on the main screen. It has no bearing on the settings or firmware on the modules. These are programmed here remotely before shipping with the proper firmware for all orders placed here or for authorized North American resellers.

I will ask CETE if they can add the RS6/7 silhouette as an option to select in the Select Car Model. Again it just changes the pictured car on the main screen, nothing else.

Cheers,

Alex - thanks for all the help. Installed the module last night... very smooth, knew exactly what to expect. I did have to reload the app on my phone for the Bluetooth to connect. Other than that, everything went just fine and I couldn't be happier with the product.

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Alex - thanks for all the help. Installed the module last night... very smooth, knew exactly what to expect. I did have to reload the app on my phone for the Bluetooth to connect. Other than that, everything went just fine and I couldn't be happier with the product.

Happy to have helped and glad it went smoothly! Hosted the photo for you:



Looking proper and let me know if you need anything else!

Cheers,

[jmy_oak]

Happy to have helped and glad it went smoothly! Hosted the photo for you:



Looking proper and let me know if you need anything else!

Cheers,

What size spacers is that running?

I’ve been wanting to try show mode but I’m worried I’m cutting it close with the 10/15 spacers.


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What size spacers is that running?

I’ve been wanting to try show mode but I’m worried I’m cutting it close with the 10/15 spacers.

Maybe @Ven2323 can confirm what he is running for spacers. The most popular I've been selling is 10mm front and 15mm rear.

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Cheers,

[MichaelScott]

Long shot and maybe not quite on-topic: if my dealer will lower, how much?

I just want a tighter, more-flush fit. I do still want to be able to go up hills & get on a towing bed.

[DeputyDog95]

What size spacers is that running?

I’ve been wanting to try show mode but I’m worried I’m cutting it close with the 10/15 spacers.

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I run 10mm all around. The wheel lips, front and rear, appear to line up nicely w the fenders. The 15mm would give you a slightly wider stance out back. Although I'm not sure I could see the 5mm with my old eyes :)

[jmy_oak]

I run 10mm all around. The wheel lips, front and rear, appear to line up nicely w the fenders. The 15mm would give you a slightly wider stance out back. Although I'm not sure I could see the 5mm with my old eyes :)

Oh, I already have the mtm spacers on the car.

I am just worried the fender is going to make contact with the tires if I lower it to show mode. The tires are flush, if not poking out the slightest bit.


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[gpoulos]

I have 12mm installing them Wednesday with my CETE install. I’ll show pictures with my meaty winters.


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[DeputyDog95]

Oh, I already have the mtm spacers on the car.

I am just worried the fender is going to make contact with the tires if I lower it to show mode. The tires are flush, if not poking out the slightest bit.


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Hmmm, not sure then. I have tried the show mode (-55mm) w the 10mm spacers, and no issues that I was aware of. I've never tried to stick my hand in there though to see how much wiggle room there was.

[coldair]

I finally remembered to check for this light this afternoon. I don’t get the suspension icon when I do a soft electric start or when I crank the car.


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Thanks for the response. I just realized it's not a suspension icon, however, the Audi Pre-Sense yellow icon. When I first turn the car on it stays illuminated for about 5 seconds or so and then disappears.

[jmy_oak]

Thanks for the response. I just realized it's not a suspension icon, however, the Audi Pre-Sense yellow icon. When I first turn the car on it stays illuminated for about 5 seconds or so and then disappears.

Mine does the same in RS6 and did it in Q7. Don’t think it’s anything to worry about.


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[Bartallday]

I have 12mm installing them Wednesday with my CETE install. I’ll show pictures with my meaty winters.


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Any pics?

[gpoulos]

Any pics?

Picking up today. All dirty from the snow though. I’ll see what I can do tonight.


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[gpoulos]

Installed set to -25mm. The guy said he would do 30-35 but not till the snow is gone.
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[Jimminez]

Installed set to -25mm. The guy said he would do 30-35 but not till the snow is gone.
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Looks great!