Has anyone installed the CETE lowering module in their RS6 yet?

[DeputyDog95]

Once CETE is installed, MMI shows 3-bar regardless the height you set it at.

If you set a speed-deactivation, it goes back to factory height/setting, then over 75mph in Dynamic mode it goes down to 1-bar

If you dont enable speed-limit (deactivation) then MMI will always show 3-bar and ride height will not change regardless speed, mode etc.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the update! Mine gets installed on Thurs and I'm trying to gather as much info as I can.

Seems odd that the auto-lowering stopped working when the CETE was installed. No one anticipated that feature being disabled with the CETE.
Do we know why or if the CETE was supposed to do that?

Is Dynamic the only mode that was supposed to lower on its own from the factory?
Or do Comfort and Automatic auto lower as well from the factory when stock?

What happens in the RS modes? Or are they more of an extension of Dynamic and if stock, "should" auto lower at speed as well?
Do the RS modes stay put at your desired customer ride height w the CETE as well, with no auto lowering on the highway?

To confirm, when the CETE is active, regardless of custom ride height or mode, the MMI always displays 3 bars?

Have you tried raising the car above stock ride height? If so, any idea how far up we can go? Might be cool to have a "dirt road" mode set for comfort if you could go up and inch over stock. I "think" when you click raise, it goes up another 10-12mm, but then goes down right away if you go above very low speeds.

One last question... Was the alignment a giant pain in the ass with 4 wheel steering and all the driver aids? I've never owned a vehicle with this much "tech". Did you have to go to the dealer to get an alignment done?

So it seems the cete is overriding the stock 75mph lowering. That's great!

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That would certainly simplify things!

[Mr.Showroom]

So it seems the cete is overriding the stock 75mph lowering. That's great!

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It only overwrites if you disable Speed-Limit (speed deactivation)

[Mr.Showroom]

Thanks for the update! Mine gets installed on Thurs and I'm trying to gather as much info as I can.

Seems odd that the auto-lowering stopped working when the CETE was installed. No one anticipated that feature being disabled with the CETE.
Do we know why or if the CETE was supposed to do that?

Is Dynamic the only mode that was supposed to lower on its own from the factory?
Or do Comfort and Automatic auto lower as well from the factory when stock?

What happens in the RS modes? Or are they more of an extension of Dynamic and if stock, "should" auto lower at speed as well?
Do the RS modes stay put at your desired customer ride height w the CETE as well, with no auto lowering on the highway?

To confirm, when the CETE is active, regardless of custom ride height or mode, the MMI always displays 3 bars?

Have you tried raising the car above stock ride height? If so, any idea how far up we can go? Might be cool to have a "dirt road" mode set for comfort if you could go up and inch over stock. I "think" when you click raise, it goes up another 10-12mm, but then goes down right away if you go above very low speeds.

One last question... Was the alignment a giant pain in the ass with 4 wheel steering and all the driver aids? I've never owned a vehicle with this much "tech". Did you have to go to the dealer to get an alignment done?




That would certainly simplify things!

Ok, simply put, CETE lets you do whatever you want. You can opt to over-write or NOT-overwrite. Depends on how you configure the app/setting.

Speed-Limit function ON, all factory function remains, including lowering vehicle additional 10mm over 75mhp

Speed-Limit function OFF, Height remains the same on what you set in the app, will not change regardless of Speed/Mode, that simple.

4 wheel steering has no interference with alignment. Rear wheels turn opposite direction ONLY WHEN you turn front wheel in motion. Rear wheels returns back to normal position after 5 seconds if vehicle is in park or vehicle is not in motion.

You would set up your desired height, then do alignment while all wheels are straight.

I had alignment done at the shop that installed CETE for me (even though I work for Audi). Alignment is straight forward, as long as they have the spec in their rack, all good. Only thing you might have to do is to re-calibrate the Adaptive Cruise Control, because vehicle height is different now. I never did it, as I never experienced any issues with my RS5 and now the RS6.

CETE allows you to raise height to 30mm ABOVE OEM, and as low as -55mm at Show Mode, I tried and can confirm.

[NPuter]

It only overwrites if you disable Speed-Limit (speed deactivation)

Which makes sense - exactly how it should be.

I guess it's able to do so because it's connected to CAN.

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[DeputyDog95]

Ok, simply put, CETE lets you do whatever you want. You can opt to over-write or NOT-overwrite. Depends on how you configure the app/setting.

Speed-Limit function ON, all factory function remains, including lowering vehicle additional 10mm over 75mhp

Speed-Limit function OFF, Height remains the same on what you set in the app, will not change regardless of Speed/Mode, that simple.

4 wheel steering has no interference with alignment. Rear wheels turn opposite direction ONLY WHEN you turn front wheel in motion. Rear wheels returns back to normal position after 5 seconds if vehicle is in park or vehicle is not in motion.

You would set up your desired height, then do alignment while all wheels are straight.

I had alignment done at the shop that installed CETE for me (even though I work for Audi). Alignment is straight forward, as long as they have the spec in their rack, all good. Only thing you might have to do is to re-calibrate the Adaptive Cruise Control, because vehicle height is different now. I never did it, as I never experienced any issues with my RS5 and now the RS6.

CETE allows you to raise height to 30mm ABOVE OEM, and as low as -55mm at Show Mode, I tried and can confirm.

Excellent, thank you! I'm really excited now. I thought there was going to be a little extra effort to make this work, but it sounds like it's going to compliment the car nicely with no extra drama.

Good to hear on the adaptive as well. I thought that might end up being an issue but it seems like it's working just fine for you at your new ride height.

Two more questions, and then I promise to leave you alone :)


What height settings did you decide on for Comfort, Auto, and Dynamic?


What happens in the RS modes? Are the RS modes ride heights tied to whatever height you set in Dynamic, or are those definable too?


I'm really only looking for two variations. Whatever it is I'll drive around in all the time at the lowered height, and then one other setting with stock or maybe even slightly higher ride height. Can't see the need to do anymore than that.

[NPuter]

Rear wheels turn opposite direction ONLY WHEN you turn front wheel in motion. Rear wheels returns back to normal position after 5 seconds if vehicle is in park or vehicle is not in motion.

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Are you sure about this? I've seen videos where the rear wheels are turning while the car is stationary (to show off the rear wheel steer). Are you saying they'll return back to center after 5 seconds? It seems in most photos with the front wheels turned the rear are as well, which is a funky look for car photography, so I was hoping there's a way to have the front turned without the rear.





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[Mr.Showroom]

Are you sure about this? I've seen videos where the rear wheels are turning while the car is stationary (to show off the rear wheel steer). Are you saying they'll return back to center after 5 seconds? It seems in most photos with the front wheels turned the rear are as well, which is a funky look for car photography, so I was hoping there's a way to have the front turned without the rear.





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Yes I'm certain. Didn't know about that till one day I pulled up to my parking spot, front wheels cranked, got out of the car to move the pylon, when I walked back to the car saw the rear wheels turned back to position.

[Mr.Showroom]

Excellent, thank you! I'm really excited now. I thought there was going to be a little extra effort to make this work, but it sounds like it's going to compliment the car nicely with no extra drama.

Good to hear on the adaptive as well. I thought that might end up being an issue but it seems like it's working just fine for you at your new ride height.

Two more questions, and then I promise to leave you alone :)


What height settings did you decide on for Comfort, Auto, and Dynamic?


What happens in the RS modes? Are the RS modes ride heights tied to whatever height you set in Dynamic, or are those definable too?


I'm really only looking for two variations. Whatever it is I'll drive around in all the time at the lowered height, and then one other setting with stock or maybe even slightly higher ride height. Can't see the need to do anymore than that.

I couldn't figure out how to set the ride height with individual drive modes. Tried searching the net with no luck.

So I left it at the height I set it at.

Believe me, it takes seconds to adjust ride height with the factory air compressor. Faster than you'd imagine.

I would pull up to a touch less car wash, raised the height to OEM, pull up to the track it's already at stock height.

RS modes is no different than Dynamic, it just allows you to remove more safety restrictions when you drive (traction control etc)

[NPuter]

Yes I'm certain. Didn't know about that till one day I pulled up to my parking spot, front wheels cranked, got out of the car to move the pylon, when I walked back to the car saw the rear wheels turned back to position.

Great to know! Thanks

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[DeputyDog95]

I couldn't figure out how to set the ride height with individual drive modes. Tried searching the net with no luck.

So I left it at the height I set it at.

Believe me, it takes seconds to adjust ride height with the factory air compressor. Faster than you'd imagine.

I would pull up to a touch less car wash, raised the height to OEM, pull up to the track it's already at stock height.

RS modes is no different than Dynamic, it just allows you to remove more safety restrictions when you drive (traction control etc)

I'm going to make it my mission to figure this out. I drive in some great and not so great areas and ideally, I'd rather not have to open my phone to change the ride height on the fly.

So hopefully I can pay it forward for all the info you've provided so far and show how after I get mine done :)

[AvantNeeded]

I setup 3 profiles, one per drive select mode (Dynamic, Auto and Comfort), with 3 different height settings.

I can confirm the height changes by controlling the drive select modes from within the car MMI. You don’t have to open your phone app to change between those height profiles once it’s setup.

[Mr.Showroom]

How did you configure it?

[Grundel76]

I have yet to install the CETE yet (car won’t even be her until end of the month), but I’m imagining that I won’t mess with the comfort setting as that will be my “snow, speed bump, drive over sh*tty roads” mode. I would only change the dynamic to lower and retain the extra drop at > 75mph. Likely, I would decrease the extra drop to make the end lowering close to OEM (whatever their 1 bar is).

With my driving style, I’m in dynamic 99% of the time. I like feeling the road - which is why I’m always saddened when I read European review on the DRC system. I have no use for Auto. Change my mind...

[AvantNeeded]

How did you configure it?

1. Turn on ignition
2. Open app
3. Connect (I won't go through these instructions and assume you already know how to connect)
4. Via MMI choose the desired Drive Select mode to configure
5. Select desired Front and Rear height settings in app > Save Settings > Hit Settings icon in upper right > Rename Profile to your desired name (naturally I chose the Drive Select mode names)
6. Via MMI choose the next Drive Select mode you want to configure > wait for the app to refresh to the next Profile > repeat Step 5

[DeputyDog95]

1. Turn on ignition
2. Open app
3. Connect (I won't go through these instructions and assume you already know how to connect)
4. Via MMI choose the desired Drive Select mode to configure
5. Select desired Front and Rear height settings in app > Save Settings > Hit Settings icon in upper right > Rename Profile to your desired name (naturally I chose the Drive Select mode names)
6. Via MMI choose the next Drive Select mode you want to configure > wait for the app to refresh to the next Profile > repeat Step 5

Well that is now solved as well. Love this community. Thanks for sharing, that sounds super easy.

What settings did you decide on for the different modes?

[Mr.Showroom]

1. Turn on ignition
2. Open app
3. Connect (I won't go through these instructions and assume you already know how to connect)
4. Via MMI choose the desired Drive Select mode to configure
5. Select desired Front and Rear height settings in app > Save Settings > Hit Settings icon in upper right > Rename Profile to your desired name (naturally I chose the Drive Select mode names)
6. Via MMI choose the next Drive Select mode you want to configure > wait for the app to refresh to the next Profile > repeat Step 5

Amazing! Appreciate the post!!

[Mr.Showroom]

1. Turn on ignition
2. Open app
3. Connect (I won't go through these instructions and assume you already know how to connect)
4. Via MMI choose the desired Drive Select mode to configure
5. Select desired Front and Rear height settings in app > Save Settings > Hit Settings icon in upper right > Rename Profile to your desired name (naturally I chose the Drive Select mode names)
6. Via MMI choose the next Drive Select mode you want to configure > wait for the app to refresh to the next Profile > repeat Step 5

Just did it, so good! Thanks again 🙏🏽

[coldair]

Hey guys, does the stock setup change ride height based on Comfort, Auto, or Dynamic or are those just ride quality/dampening changes?

In trying to figure out if there will still be a ride quality improvement when switching to Comfort, even if I use the CETE to keep the height the same when in Comfort or Dynamic

[coldair]

Also, here’s my CETE setup.

-30mm Front
-25mm Rear

[Grundel76]

Also, here’s my CETE setup.

-30mm Front
-25mm Rear

*mind blown*

For some reason, the thought to have different heights for front and rear never occurred to me. Looks nice with the increased rake.

[AvantNeeded]

Just did it, so good! Thanks again

Glad to help!

Unrelated. I had a long highway drive today and I noticed behavior that I believe was contradictory to an earlier post. Next time if my wife is with me I will ask her to check because I was sketched out looking at my phone while driving ~80mph.

I was driving faster than the Speed Limit cancellation setting at 120kmh (~75mph). In both Dynamic and Auto the MMI showed 1 bar as expected (because the speed cancellation setting should have the suspension operating as if no CETE module was installed).

I didn’t have a chance to test in Comfort.

[DeputyDog95]

Glad to help!

Unrelated. I had a long highway drive today and I noticed behavior that I believe was contradictory to an earlier post. Next time if my wife is with me I will ask her to check because I was sketched out looking at my phone while driving ~80mph.

I was driving faster than the Speed Limit cancellation setting at 120kmh (~75mph). In both Dynamic and Auto the MMI showed 1 bar as expected (because the speed cancellation setting should have the suspension operating as if no CETE module was installed).

I didn’t have a chance to test in Comfort.

Interesting. Did you have the CETE speed cancelation feature enabled or disabled when you did that?

To confirm though... If you disable the CETE speed cancelation feature where it reverts back to stock at around or over sustained 75mph, the car doesn't move from your predetermined height at those speeds, correct? Or are we not sure now?

[coldair]

*mind blown*

For some reason, the thought to have different heights for front and rear never occurred to me. Looks nice with the increased rake.

Thanks! Yeah, the factory stance has the front end lifted a bit. The extra 5mm helped level it out.

[AvantNeeded]

Interesting. Did you have the CETE speed cancelation feature enabled or disabled when you did that?

To confirm though... If you disable the CETE speed cancelation feature where it reverts back to stock at around or over sustained 75mph, the car doesn't move from your predetermined height at those speeds, correct? Or are we not sure now?

Enabled

I’m not sure now.

[DeputyDog95]

Once CETE is installed, MMI shows 3-bar regardless the height you set it at.

If you set a speed-deactivation, it goes back to factory height/setting, then over 75mph in Dynamic mode it goes down to 1-bar

If you dont enable speed-limit (deactivation) then MMI will always show 3-bar and ride height will not change regardless speed, mode etc.

Hope this helps!

So it seems the cete is overriding the stock 75mph lowering. That's great!

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Enabled

I’m not sure now.

Uh oh, that complicates things if it's still dropping on its own, even after the CETE is installed and the speed cancel, disabled.

So, I had a long interstate drive today and I can confirm the following "stock" behavior":

A) The car will drop to 1 bar from 3 if you exceed 75mph in Dynamic Mode
B) The car will drop to 1 bar from 3 if you exceed 75mph in Auto Mode
C) The car will not drop from the 3rd bar if you exceed 75mph in Comfort Mode


One other thing to consider...

The car will not shift into 8th gear on the interstate in Dynamic Mode. Something to consider for alignment purposes.

If you're going to align the car, you're probably going to want to align at the ride height where you'll spend the most time.

Originally I thought I would just make Dynamic my standard mode, but if it doesn't shift into 8th on the highway, that doesn't work. It noisier and reduces gas mileage at those speeds.

I don't think raising the car up on a lowered alignment will hurt tire wear, but it might make the car less sharp as it'll be pulling some camber out.



So I'm thinking, if I want to spend most of my time at -25mm...

I will probably do the following:
Comfort -25mm
Auto +10mm
Dynamic -25mm

So for those times that I'm either on the highway or need to be quiet I can pop it into Comfort, or if I want to drive loudly/aggressively, I can put it in Dynamic and keep the same ride height and appropriate alignment settings.

And then if I need to go slow with more ground clearance, pop it in Auto.

Thoughts?

[Grundel76]

Uh oh, that complicates things if it's still dropping on its own, even after the CETE is installed and the speed cancel, disabled.

So, I had a long interstate drive today and I can confirm the following "stock" behavior":

A) The car will drop to 1 bar from 3 if you exceed 75mph in Dynamic Mode
B) The car will drop to 1 bar from 3 if you exceed 75mph in Auto Mode
C) The car will not drop from the 3rd bar if you exceed 75mph in Comfort Mode


One other thing to consider...

The car will not shift into 8th gear on the interstate in Dynamic Mode. Something to consider for alignment purposes.

If you're going to align the car, you're probably going to want to align at the ride height where you'll spend the most time.

Originally I thought I would just make Dynamic my standard mode, but if it doesn't shift into 8th on the highway, that doesn't work. It noisier and reduces gas mileage at those speeds.

I don't think raising the car up on a lowered alignment will hurt tire wear, but it might make the car less sharp as it'll be pulling some camber out.



So I'm thinking, if I want to spend most of my time at -25mm...

I will probably do the following:
Comfort -25mm
Auto +10mm
Dynamic -25mm

So for those times that I'm either on the highway or need to be quiet I can pop it into Comfort, or if I want to drive loudly/aggressively, I can put it in Dynamic and keep the same ride height and appropriate alignment settings.

And then if I need to go slow with more ground clearance, pop it in Auto.

Thoughts?

Are the settings, Comfort/Auto/Dynamic, only suspension? I thought you could configure suspension setting independent of transmission settings. For instance, you can have an Individual setting for Comfort suspension with Dynamic transmission. Not sure if I’m confusing Audi settings with BMW *gasp!*

To rectify your issue with only 7 gears in Dynamic, can’t you always pull on that right flappy thingy behind the steering wheel and shift it into 8th???? ;)

[DeputyDog95]

Are the settings, Comfort/Auto/Dynamic, only suspension? I thought you could configure suspension setting independent of transmission settings. For instance, you can have an Individual setting for Comfort suspension with Dynamic transmission. Not sure if I’m confusing Audi settings with BMW *gasp!*

To rectify your issue with only 7 gears in Dynamic, can’t you always pull on that right flappy thingy behind the steering wheel and shift it into 8th???? ;)

The different drive modes change suspension, throttle response, gear selection/timing.

As far as I can tell, you can only modify those individually if you reprogram the RS1 mode. You can reprogram RS2 as well, but that mode is the more aggressive of the two as it automatically dials back the stability control. The already crappy mileage would be worsened if you drove in the RS modes all the time. Not to mention, you would have to put in the RS mode every time you start the car as it defaults to one of the standard modes that you left the car in.

As far as being able to shift into 8th using the paddles, maybe? Not sure, never tried it. Good question though. However, personally speaking, I'd rather have the car in the calmer Comfort mode for long, boring, straight interstate rides.

[Grundel76]

The different drive modes change suspension, throttle response, gear selection/timing.

As far as I can tell, you can only modify those individually if you reprogram the RS1 mode. You can reprogram RS2 as well, but that mode is the more aggressive of the two as it automatically dials back the stability control. The already crappy mileage would be worsened if you drove in the RS modes all the time. Not to mention, you would have to put in the RS mode every time you start the car as it defaults to one of the standard modes that you left the car in.

I’ll have to wait until my car gets here to play with it. Even my 2015 A4 has a configurable “Individual” setting where I can choose engine as well as steering response.

[Jimminez]

I’ll have to wait until my car gets here to play with it. Even my 2015 A4 has a configurable “Individual” setting where I can choose engine as well as steering response.

Let me rephrase that. RS1 and RS2 are customizable that basically allow for two separate “Individual” modes.

They are preprogrammed that RS1 is like Dynamic but I believe suspension is set to Balanced. RS2 has everything like Dynamic with ESP turned off.

[coldair]

Demonstrating "show mode" for some of my employees.

[gpoulos]

I have a few questions.
1) when people use lowering links/coil overs etc. they end up doing a realignment. Is this not required when messing with the air suspension with CETE?
2) I have 285/35R21 on 21x10.5” rims for my winters, these are slightly meatier than the stock summers. Would using CETE over lowering links make sense so i would essentially have a different setup for winter/summer on suspension heights?
3)How easy is the CETE to install, can i do it myself or should i rely on a shop?
4)Lastly, I have never seen my suspension height lower than 3 bars in the MMI even driving >80mph in RS1. Is there a setting on my MMI for base configurations allowing that drop?

[DeputyDog95]

I have a few questions.
1) when people use lowering links/coil overs etc. they end up doing a realignment. Is this not required when messing with the air suspension with CETE?
2) I have 285/35R21 on 21x10.5” rims for my winters, these are slightly meatier than the stock summers. Would using CETE over lowering links make sense so i would essentially have a different setup for winter/summer on suspension heights?
3)How easy is the CETE to install, can i do it myself or should i rely on a shop?
4)Lastly, I have never seen my suspension height lower than 3 bars in the MMI even driving >80mph in RS1. Is there a setting on my MMI for base configurations allowing that drop?

I'll do my best.

1) Doesn't matter how you lower your car, you need to realign. As you lower the car, you force more negative camber which will increase tire wear on the inside and changes the handling.

2) I can't comment on fit, but the links are permanent in a sense. You lower it 25mm, it's always 25mm lower unless you have the links adjusted again and make the car taller for when you run different wheels/tires.

3) It's about an hour at a good shop. IMO, it requires a lift to do it easily. All the underpanels need to come off. I guess you could do it on jackstands in you driveways, but it would be a giant PITA. I'd happily pay a shop 60-90 mins to not have crawl around under the car. Not to mention, you'll need an alignment afterwards.

4) Not that I am aware of... Check out my post above how what modes it automatically lowers in. Your car should be dropping 10mm in Auto, Dynamic, and probably the RS modes. I've never tested the RS modes but I think they are just a configurable extension of dynamic so it should auto lower over 75mph as well. It does not drop in comfort.

[DeputyDog95]

So I had the CETE installed. Loving it. My shop really liked it too. He said it seemed way "smarter" than a lot of the other lowering modules he's messed w before.

Here's where I landed with settings:

Comfort -25
Auto +10
Dynamic -25

Typically I'm either cruising around in comfort or driving aggressively in Dynamic. Auto never really seemed like it made much sense for me and FL roads.

So we set the ride height at the desired look (-25) and aligned the car to the modes I'll be using most frequently.

Auto is my 4x4 crappy road, steep driveway mode now. I shouldn't be traveling at any speed or distance in that mode, so no concerns about the alignment. I may even go +20mm, which I think is the max height. Can someone confirm that?

One thing to consider is that the height changes don't happen fast. They're actually really slow. Probably 30 seconds or so. The front moves a little, then the back moves a little, so on and so forth. Not nearly as fast as the "lift" mode in the MMI. But that's fine.

I also have no idea what happens now in Dynamic. No one has been able to confirm if the car will drop from -25mm to -35mm if you exceed 75mph and have the CETE speed cancelation set to "off".

Allegedly if you set the speed cancel to "on" in the app and put in your desired speed, it will turn the CETE off and go back to factory ride height. For example. If you set the speed cancellation to off at 75mph, the car will raise 25mm back to stock and then drop 10mm and show as 1 bar in the MMI. So you'll be 15mm higher than your starting ride height if you started at -25mm. Confusing, I know.

I threw some 10mm spacers on as well to finish off the look. I'm really pleased. Nothing too aggressive for ride height or spacers, but really tightens up the appearance.

[NPuter]

It should not take a competent shop more than an hour (without alignment).

After doing it once now, I'd be able to do another in 30 min max.

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[DeputyDog95]

So more feedback re the CETE.

So car, color me impressed. Seemless integration into the factory system. The app is not necessary after you've programmed it, but it connects effortlessly each time if you want to play around, verify what it's doing, or use "show mode".


1) You can change modes and ride height while driving which is really nice.

2) It seems to raise and lower a little slower than the factory. Kind of a see-saw type pattern. A little in the front, then a little in the back. So on and so forth until you get to your desired height. I'm guessing it's slower as a safety feature to not be too abrupt while driving.

2) The ride quality does diminish a little at 25mm lower than stock in both Comfort and Dynamic. It's not horrible, but it's noticeable. Regardless of how you lower the car, we'll all experience a slightly harder ride depending on how low you go. 25mm seems to be the sweet spot.

3) The CETE doesn't recognize the RS modes. Just the 3 factory modes. So when you put it in RS1 or RS2, it stays at the ride height of whatever mode you were in prior to switching to RS.

No one seems to have 100% verified if the car is still lowering at speed in Dynamic and Auto modes with the CETE installed and the "speed cancel" set to off. I guess the only way to do it would be to either strap it to a dyno or put a gopro on the fender and lay some painter's tape across from the wheel hub and see if the car dips an extra 10mm like it would as stock. Still a mystery...

[gpoulos]

So more feedback re the CETE.

So car, color me impressed. Seemless integration into the factory system. The app is not necessary after you've programmed it, but it connects effortlessly each time if you want to play around, verify what it's doing, or use "show mode".


1) You can change modes and ride height while driving which is really nice.

2) It seems to raise and lower a little slower than the factory. Kind of a see-saw type pattern. A little in the front, then a little in the back. So on and so forth until you get to your desired height. I'm guessing it's slower as a safety feature to not be too abrupt while driving.

2) The ride quality does diminish a little at 25mm lower than stock in both Comfort and Dynamic. It's not horrible, but it's noticeable. Regardless of how you lower the car, we'll all experience a slightly harder ride depending on how low you go. 25mm seems to be the sweet spot.

3) The CETE doesn't recognize the RS modes. Just the 3 factory modes. So when you put it in RS1 or RS2, it stays at the ride height of whatever mode you were in prior to switching to RS.

No one seems to have 100% verified if the car is still lowering at speed in Dynamic and Auto modes with the CETE installed and the "speed cancel" set to off. I guess the only way to do it would be to either strap it to a dyno or put a gopro on the fender and lay some painter's tape across from the wheel hub and see if the car dips an extra 10mm like it would as stock. Still a mystery...

Good write up. Other than show mode do you see any huge reason to use this over using the factory tool to lower 25mm or even links. Car Still has the built in raise option for driveways right?


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[DeputyDog95]

Good write up. Other than show mode do you see any huge reason to use this over using the factory tool to lower 25mm or even links. Car Still has the built in raise option for driveways right?


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Thanks.

If you lower the car 25mm, you're stuck at -25mm for regular driving.

Yes, the factory raise option is still there w the lowering links or ODIS, but I think it's only 10mm (not 100% sure of that) and you can't drive with it raised. Automatically comes back down after speed or time. Not sure which, but I tested it and it did come back down when I started driving again.

So if you lower 25mm, the highest you can get back to is -15 lower than stock if my +10mm assumption is correct on the factory raise button. And that is only a temporary raise.

The CETE gives you way more flexibility, but it is also more expensive.

Which in this case, I think it is worth it to control the height as you see fit. Whether you want it to look stock when go to the dealer, or you get caught on a long dirt road (like I did the other day) and you want to raise it way up to clear the dips and undulations on a crap surface.

Personal preference of course. There is no wrong way of lowering your car with any of the 3 options.

[Grundel76]

So lemme get this straight, assuming CETE for dynamic is -25mm:

- For lowered look in RS1/2 I need to start off in Dynamic first. Initiating RS1/2 from a higher setting, say Comfort, will give a completely different ride height.

- front lift (+10mm) is only available for a certain time and under a certain speed

Also, any guess how long it would take to lower 25mm vs raise 25mm?

[DeputyDog95]

So lemme get this straight, assuming CETE for dynamic is -25mm:

- For lowered look in RS1/2 I need to start off in Dynamic first. Initiating RS1/2 from a higher setting, say Comfort, will give a completely different ride height.

- front lift (+10mm) is only available for a certain time and under a certain speed

Also, any guess how long it would take to lower 25mm vs raise 25mm?

Yes, when you initiate one of the RS modes, it will remain at the height of the mode you're currently set for. So if you're in comfort and that's plus 10mm, then your RS modes will be plus 10mm over stock. My comfort and dynamic are both set to -25mm where I spend most of my time. Auto is set to +10mm over stock for sketchy places or dirty roads.

Yes, as far as know, the front lift is only available when under a certain speed and time and then it reverts to whatever it was prior to that once you start driving normally again. That's how stock functions anyway. I have not tested it with the CETE yet. Good question though. I'm guessing it will still lift with the CETE installed, but you'll only raise up to whatever the factory present raise is and revert when you start driving again. Best guess anyway. I'll have to try it.

I've never timed going down, but going up from -55 to -25 is about 25 seconds. I would assume it's probably the same going down. Up and down both use a small adjustment front and rear, one end at a time, and go back and forth until enough adjustments have been made to get to the preset height.

[DeputyDog95]

Additional CETE updates.

Over 75mph in Dynamic, the MMI does in fact show the car drop from 3 bars to 1 bar with the CETE installed and the speed limit feature disabled. I have no idea if the car actually lowered though... Hopefully someone figures this out soon using a dyno or a strategically placed go pro.

As mentioned previously, it does not lower at speed in Comfort mode. Just Dynamic and Auto.


I did test the MMI lift feature and it still functions. My current ride height (-25mm) allows one finger between the fender and the top of the tire. With the MMI lift mode engaged, you can fit two fingers. If I had to guess, the first knuckle on my index is probably 15mm. Not very scientific, but you get the idea.

I never did test the functionality of the stock lift feature. ie if it was just the front or front and rear.

However, I did test it last night after the CETE was installed and the front and rear both raise when you engage the MMI lift mode.

However, it does the thing where it lifts the back a little, and then the front, instead of all 4 at once. Just like the CETE does when raising or lowering. Always incremental, doing front and rear separately a little at a time until it gets to where it needs to be.

I have no idea if the stock MMI lift feature raises both the front and rear and if it raises them all at the same time... Didn't test it before having the CETE installed.