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    anyone have a lead on prefab plumbing for a 6" core FMIC? I picked up a johnyracecar IC not too long ago and was planning on doing my own plumbing, but since then, my "free" time has mysteriously disappeared. Looking to pick up a prefab'd set of plumbing - silicone connector w/ t-bolt clamps would be a bonus.

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    heh, ditto for me

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    same here. I hear all you need is a couple 90* bends and some straight pipe. You can get hte connector set and hoses off ebay.
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    90? Sounds too severe

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    yeah, you can pick up a complete non-prefab'd (u's 45's and straights) kit off of ebay w/ silicone connectors and t-bolt clamps, but I just don't feel like mess'n with it. You would still have to get at least one small nub welded on at the intake side of the IC.

    There are a couple other other ebay sellers that have the complete kit, including the core - I've sent them emails to see if they would sell them separately - no word just yet.

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    well you can get some 45* bends but cutting them.
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    i mean not 45*s but angles not as severe if you need them.
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    Originally posted by audisnapr
    yeah, you can pick up a complete non-prefab'd (u's 45's and straights) kit off of ebay w/ silicone connectors and t-bolt clamps, but I just don't feel like mess'n with it. You would still have to get at least one small nub welded on at the intake side of the IC.
    What would the nub be for? And what are the auction #s for some of the piping?
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    The nub is to give the clamps something to grip under boost.
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    mandrel bends
    thats where i got my bends from, and i would get 90s, i tink they can make any degree bend you want. Also check toms post, its good for a guesstimante.
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    i think your turbo would be oriented differently.
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    Originally posted by Poopie
    The nub is to give the clamps something to grip under boost.
    actually, by "nub" I wasn't referring to the beads around the end of the pipes (although, with the individual non-prefab'd pieces, that's what you don't get) I was referring to the nub on the IC pipe that goes from the IC to the engine intake - to be honest, I'm not sure what it goes to - someone else will enlighten us.

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    8043770249 <--- these guys will sell the complete prefab'd plumbing kit, but for $250 + $40shipping - problem was not only the price, but their plumbing is 2.75", I need 2.25" or at most 2.5"

    I haven't heard back from: 8046608529 or 8046889176

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    yea 2.75 is HUUUUGGGGEEEE.... Thanks for letting us know I might end up goign your route.
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    And you must not have any time...I haven't seen you posting in a long ass time along with tomritt.
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    mines 2" out of the turbo into 2.5" the rest of the way..hot and cold side

    dont forget about a flange for the map sensor

    i bet those cheap pre-fab'd ebay kits dont have one
    contact via email please.

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    Originally posted by Poopie
    The nub is to give the clamps something to grip under boost.
    Honestly I don't think it matters if you use t-bolt clamps. Those things are so damn strong...
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    well if you replace it all the way to the compressor dischrage it is different than stock, you would only need one 90 degree bend and if the piping is 2.5" you need a reducer to 2"

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    Originally posted by k0mpresd
    mines 2" out of the turbo into 2.5" the rest of the way..hot and cold side

    dont forget about a flange for the map sensor

    i bet those cheap pre-fab'd ebay kits dont have one
    that's the "nub" I was referring to - those ebay kits DO have have that flange, that's why I wanted to go that route.

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    For hot side piping I used one continuous piece of the 2" ID marine exhaust hose from the turbo outlet to the the FMIC inlet. The piece was about 32" long and easily handled the necessary bends for me to route past the secondary air injection pump, horns and tranny cooler lines. T Bolt clamps on both ends for security. I relocated the DV to the cold side so there's no need for the outlet to the DV.

    The hose is from Marine Products International. http://www.marinehose.com/mpi/products_exhaust_252.htm
    They don't sell direct, but have a big dealer network as noted on there site. They're local to me, so I just showed up at their doorstep and they helped me out. About $15 a foot.

    The same hose in 2.5" ID can be used between the IC and TB, or you would just need a transition at the TB since it's closer to 2.5" OD. Depending on MY, you may have to splice a "T" in the corrugated hose for the boost sensor and for the DV relocation. Bascially a tee with OD to match the hose ID on each end with a 1" OD stub for the DV line and a bung for the boost sensor. No big deal.

    The marine hose is low bling but amazingly functional. I'm at about 20,000 miles with no problems. Pic below.


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    Have you tried calling any of the more common fmic companies like evoms.com, racetec-us.com to see if they will sell you a pipe kit? It never hurts to ask imo.
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    Originally posted by AvantSpeed
    Have you tried calling any of the more common fmic companies like evoms.com, racetec-us.com to see if they will sell you a pipe kit? It never hurts to ask imo.
    That's how I ended up using the marine hose! I called around looking for just hot side piping and those that responded wanted $300-500 for the piping. After all said and done, I like my hose better. Handles engine movement and all with no issues. Also, the inside of the hose is not corrugated, it's smooth as a baby's butt.

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    Gosh that hose could be handy!!!

    How did you make the DV connect onto it?

    Just get a metal T piece?


    This has got me thinking!!

    What is the best size of fmic? As i may use some of this hose and make a kit.

    But i dont wanna cut up my car too much.

    Also do you guys just make brackets and mount the fmic onto the radiator ones or summin?
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    i thought the little 1" nub was for the DV?

    and the MAP sensor is on the outlet side of the intercooler

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    Originally posted by offroader1006
    i thought the little 1" nub was for the DV?

    and the MAP sensor is on the outlet side of the intercooler
    yes sir, you are correct, I was mistaken

    I heard back from the ebayer who listed item no. 8046889176

    "Piping kit only are 300 shipped. The correct reducers will be provide.
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    Hard to believe these plumbing kits cost almost 2 times as much as the core

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    Originally posted by soupie69uk
    Gosh that hose could be handy!!!

    How did you make the DV connect onto it?

    Just get a metal T piece?


    This has got me thinking!!

    What is the best size of fmic? As i may use some of this hose and make a kit.

    But i dont wanna cut up my car too much.

    Also do you guys just make brackets and mount the fmic onto the radiator ones or summin?
    I relocated the DV to the cold side so I could use a single piece of hose from the turbo the the FMIC inlet. Basically a convoluted "S" shape that the hose handles with zero flattening. I had a one-of-a-kind pipe for the cold side that already had a bung for the DV and bung for the boost sensor. Another pic below showing brackets too. Just bolted to back of aluminum bumper.


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    Oh right your lucky having that hard pipe.

    Where you get that from?

    I forgot i have moved my DV to the cold side to.

    I wonder if it would be possible to use hose inplace of this and get a bit which the boost sensor would go into?

    Where is the boost sensor on the standard setup? I am guessing between the turbo and the ic and on yours its moved to between the throttle and the ic.

    As i could use the T piece that i use at the moment on the standard hose for the DV.

    Cheers.
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    I was just looking at some intercooler kits and i can only see a little bit for the DV to go onto i cant see any bits for anything else.

    Cheers.
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    the stock map sensor is on top of the SMIC

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    ive got a guy who does some tig welding, im gonna research what tools ill need to flare the ends to better hold the hose connectors and see what the MAP mounts too, then ill find out if i can get some custom peices made.

    i aint makin any promises, as i dont have much free time

    but 250+ is rediculous

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    Originally posted by one8t
    The marine hose is low bling but amazingly functional. I'm at about 20,000 miles with no problems. Pic below.
    There's zero problems even in winter weather? If not, this seems like a budget (and ghetto ) FMIC solution for poor kids like me. There's a marine shop close to me that carries it, maybe I will check it out sometime.

    My plan is to go to an exhaust shop and get a ~4" piece of metal tube or something with a MAP flange and the DV connection welded on. I can connect that to the TB with a reducer then run the marine hose up to there.

    What type of core do you have?
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    Where could anyone get a MAP flange though?
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    Originally posted by soupie69uk
    Where could anyone get a MAP flange though?
    42draftdesigns used to sell a flange to mount on a hard pipe but it looks like their site is down. namotorsports.net carried alot of their stuff, you can try them

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    Originally posted by BranCKY3
    There's zero problems even in winter weather? If not, this seems like a budget (and ghetto ) FMIC solution for poor kids like me. There's a marine shop close to me that carries it, maybe I will check it out sometime.

    What type of core do you have?
    Core is 2.25" x 10" x 23.5" end tank to end tank. A little narrower would fit better, maybe 19-20", but that's on a Passat. Don't know who made it, I bought it used.

    I said low bling, not ghetto! You can get similar hose that goes into aerospace applications that costs 3x more, would that be better! No problems in winter or summer. I've ran it in ambient temps from 98F down to 2F.

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    Hey guys check this out... I dont know if this would have all the welds and things but its cheap and polished

    Ebay Item # - 8027677107
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    AudiSnapr... did you ever see the kit I just posted?
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    Originally posted by one8t
    42draftdesigns used to sell a flange to mount on a hard pipe but it looks like their site is down. namotorsports.net carried alot of their stuff, you can try them
    Thanks very much mate!!

    http://www.42draftdesigns.com/18tmapsensors.htm

    There are the sensors flanges.

    Thanks again.
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    Originally posted by one8t
    Core is 2.25" x 10" x 23.5" end tank to end tank. A little narrower would fit better, maybe 19-20", but that's on a Passat. Don't know who made it, I bought it used.

    I said low bling, not ghetto! You can get similar hose that goes into aerospace applications that costs 3x more, would that be better! No problems in winter or summer. I've ran it in ambient temps from 98F down to 2F.
    Yea the hose looks like it would work great. I just need to find a core that will fit nicely behind the bumper and I'll have a FMIC for less than half the price of a premade one.
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    http://www.streetgeektuning.com/00_g...oducts_id=1478
    Intercooler – Bar and Plate
    http://www.42draftdesigns.com/18tmapsensors.htm
    Map Sensor
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=8027677107
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    Am i missing anything peicing together and comparing here.

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    Might just be worth it to get the Greddy... By the time your done with all the hidden costs, its gonna cost around the same give or take like $100 but if your getting a FMIC, chances are your doing some other big mods and have the $$$
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