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  1. #1
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    2005 A4 2.0T Quattro P0600 Code Cranks but No Start

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    Some background:

    * My son put this 2005 A4 on it's side in an accident and I have been trying to get it running again since the accident. The accident was minor, no collision just slipped off the road in to a grass ditch on it's side.

    * The engine was running while after the accident while it was on it's side and he had to turn the key off to shut it off.
    * After the tow, engine would not crank with fully charged battery. Checked the codes and no error codes at this point.
    * Then took the spark plugs out and put rags over the empty ports and the engine cranked just fine spitting out a ton of oil. I did this until no more oil came out then tried to clean up any excess oil the best I could. Replace the spark plugs and eventually after a few cranks the engine fired up spitting out TONS of smoke as it was burring off all that oil.
    * I moved the car a few times shutting it off and on to move it. It started up fine at least 2 times after the original startup (still some smoke - I don't think I let it run long enough to burn off all the oil on top of the pistons)

    * After letting it sit for a few hours it would no longer start. It still cranks just fine it just wont fire up.
    * Tried pulling the spark plugs and replacing them with new plugs but still the same symptom of cranking fine but no start.
    * Tried jump start still the same symptoms.
    * I then checked for error codes and see there is now a P0600 PCM Serial Communication Link. No other error codes.

    Does anyone out there have any ideas why the P0600 showed up and is it the cause of the no start? I wonder if the O2 sensor is caked in burnt off oil causing that error code? I don't think that would cause the no start though. Any help is much appreciated.

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    Well, given the message that there is a broken communication link the first place I would check is the fuse panel, look for blown fuse first.
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    What isn’t the pcm communicating with? Also I’d replace the oil separator and take those lower boost pipes off and make sure there isn’t a shit ton of oil in there.


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    Thanks guys I checked all fuses and they looked good. I got my hands on VCDS scan. I think the ECU is toast or maybe the ecu relay? VCDS could talk to all other modules but failed to communicate with address 01 ECU.

    Code:
    Wednesday,25,March,2020,16:01:58:33376
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64(Parallels)
    VCDS Version 19.6.2.2 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    VIN: WAUDF68E95A478984 License Plate:
    Mileage: 205930km-127958mi Repair Order: bricyna4
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ----------
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ----------
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
    67 69 75 76 77
    VIN: WAUDF68E95A478984 Mileage: 205930km-127958miles ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------
    Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
    Part No SW: 8E1 910 156 A HW: 09L 927 156 Component: AG6 09L 2,0TFSI USA 0030
    Revision: --H01--- Serial number: 0089293 Coding: 0000002
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000 VCID: 2517F75B79E9202F9A3-8071
    2 Faults Found:
    18289 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message
    P1881 - 001 - Acceleration Request Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 205934 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
    RPM: 0 /min
    RPM: 0 /min
    (no units): 30.0
     
    (no units): 25.0 Temperature: 8.0∞C T.B. Angle: 60.0∞
    18258 - Powertrain Data Bus
    P1850 - 000 - Missing Message from ECU
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 205934 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes
    Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 C
    Component: ESP8 quattro
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 0004528
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
    VCID: 270BFD5303E5323FA8F-8073
     2 Faults Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 50
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
                        Hex Value: 0x4222
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0xFF97
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 25
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb HW: 8E0 614 517 BB
    H04 0180
    
                  Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0080
                        Hex Value: 0x0722
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0xFF91
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl Part No: 8E0 820 043 AM
    Component: A4 Klimaautomat 2731
    Coding: 00000
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 6C81C27FDF93D16705D-513D
    2 Faults Found:
    00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
    41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent 01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
    27-00 - Implausible Signal
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl Part No: 8E0 907 279 J
    Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0303
    Coding: 01023
    Shop #: WSC 65536
    VCID: 392F2B2BE041B4CFCEB-4B01
    1 Fault Found:
    01494 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Left (M1)
    30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio
    Part No: 8E0 035 593 E Component: SDAR XM
    VCID: 2B0301631A2D165F4C7-5067
    Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl 0080
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
    35-00 - -
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    
    Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl PartNoSW:8E0959655H HW:8E0959655H Component: Airbag 9.41 H10 3230
    Revision: 91H10323 Serial number: 0036N000869C Coding: 0032607
    Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000 VCID: 3C21323FEA6381E7D5D-8069
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 B Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 02 0070 Serial number: 6332DRB400B3511BF Coding: 00032607
    Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB400B28928O Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB400459A40E Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB400458EC8Y Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB400468353C Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB400468646I
    2 Faults Found:
    01211 - Belt Tensioner Igniter; Rear Driver Side (N196)
    001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 99
                        Time Indication: 0
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number 000 - - - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00110000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 5
                        Reset counter: 99
                        Time Indication: 0
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     ---------
    Address 16: Steering wheel Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q Component: Lenks·ulenmodul Coding: 02041
       Shop #: WSC 06335
    Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl 0601
    
    VCID: 41DF43CB8891EC0F86B-4B01 No fault code found.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl PartNoSW:8E0920981N HW:8E0920981N Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0040
    Revision: 0040 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 0023261
    Shop #: WSC 02345 444 54467 VCID: 38292E2FDE4BADC7315-5185
    3 Faults Found:
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent 01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication 01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl PartNoSW:8E0920981N HW:8E0920981N Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H12 0040
    Revision: 0040 Serial number: 00000000000000 Coding: 0023261
    Shop #: WSC 02345 444 54467 VCID: 38292E2FDE4BADC7315-5185
    3 Faults Found:
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent 01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication 01304 - Radio
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     ---------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Part No: 8E0 959 760 Component: Sitzmemory R2 F Coding: 00002
    Shop #: WSC 00000
    VCID: 71BFD30BF8813C8F36B-4B3D
    2 Faults Found:
    Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl 0305
    
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
    07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     ---------
    Address 46: Central Conv.
    Part No: 8E0 959 433 BT Component: Komfortger·t T7B Coding: 11836
    Shop #: WSC 06335
    VCID: 04518ADFD7033927EDD-4B01
    Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb 3132
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801F Component: Tırsteuer.FS BRM 0305
    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E Component: Tırsteuer.BF BRM 0205
    Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A Component: Tırsteuer.HL BRM 0205
    Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A Component: Tırsteuer.HR BRM 0205
    7 Faults Found:
    00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor
    35-00 - -
    01371 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Driver's Side
    35-00 - -
    01572 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Passenger Side
    35-00 - -
    00892 - Switch for Trunk Closing Cylinder (F248)
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01799 - Switch for Interior Locking; Rear Middle (E286); Unlock
    27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent 00955 - Key 1
    35-10 - - - Intermittent 00532 - Supply Voltage B+
    37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl PartNoSW:4F0910357C HW:4F0907357C Component: AFS 1 H01 0020
    Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
       Coding: 0000019
       Shop #: WSC 20209 444 58908
    
    VCID: 2615F05704EF2B37939-8073
    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 Component: AFS-Modul links H02 0020
    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 39
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ---------
    Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl Part No: 8E0 035 195 H
    Component: symphony II NP2 0470
    Coding: 01205
    Shop #: WSC 20209
    VCID: 2C01027F1F23116745D-5067
    No fault code found.
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:03, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/ 12.1V)-----------
    Last edited by argreway; 03-26-2020 at 02:29 PM. Reason: code block

  5. #5
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    Update - I cleared all the codes and tried another start here is that scan. ECU still does not respond to VCDS on address 01.

    I pulled out the ECU from it's plenum and checked all the fuses in that box they were not blown. There were 3 relays in there a (1-395 and 2-614) I pulled them out and did resistance/continuity tests and they passed. I still need to try and put 12v on and make sure they close properly but everything in there looked clean an no corrosion.

    I don't have a wiring diagram does anyone know where to go and get one to see if I'm getting power to the ECU? ECU model is 8E0 910 115 B. If I have to buy a new ECU any tips on that? Can I send this ECU to somewhere to get tested or is that a waste? How to get the security pin from the immobilizer? Thanks in advance.

    Code:
    Thursday,26,March,2020,13:14:47:33376
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64(Parallels)
    VCDS Version 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUDF68E95A478984   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 205930km-127958mi   Repair Order: post-start1
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUDF68E95A478984   Mileage: 205930km-127958miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E1 910 156 A    HW: 09L 927 156 
       Component: AG6 09L 2,0TFSI USA 0030  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        0089293
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2517F75B79E9202F9A3-8071
    
    2 Faults Found:
    18289 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message 
                P1881 - 001 - Acceleration Request
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 205934 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        (no units): 30.0
                        (no units): 25.0
                        Temperature: 12.0∞C
                        T.B. Angle: 60.0∞
    
    18258 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                P1850 - 000 - Missing Message from ECU
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Mileage: 205934 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
       Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 C    HW: 8E0 614 517 BB
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H04 0180  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0004528
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 270BFD5303E5323FA8F-8073
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0080
                        Hex Value: 0x0702
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0xFF93
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
    
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0080
                        Hex Value: 0x0702
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
                        Hex Value: 0xFF92
                        Hex Value: 0x00FF
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 AM
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   2731  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6C81C27FDF93D16705D-513D
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
                27-00 - Implausible Signal
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 J
       Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0303  
       Coding: 01023
       Shop #: WSC 65536  
       VCID: 392F2B2BE041B4CFCEB-4B01
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01494 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Left (M1) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 035 593 E
       Component: SDAR XM            0080   
       VCID: 2B0301631A2D165F4C7-5067
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                35-00 - -
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 H    HW: 8E0 959 655 H
       Component:    Airbag 9.41  H10 3230  
       Revision: 91H10323    Serial number: 0036N000869C  
       Coding: 0032607
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3C21323FEA6381E7D5D-8069
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 02  0070  
       Serial number: 6332DRB400B3511BF
       Coding: 00032607
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB400B28928O
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB400459A40E
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB400458EC8Y
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB400468353C
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB400468646I
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
       Component: Lenks·ulenmodul     0601  
       Coding: 02041
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 41DF43CB8891EC0F86B-4B01
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 981 N    HW: 8E0 920 981 N
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H12 0040  
       Revision: 0040        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023261
       Shop #: WSC 02345 444 54467
       VCID: 38292E2FDE4BADC7315-5185
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 981 N    HW: 8E0 920 981 N
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H12 0040  
       Revision: 0040        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023261
       Shop #: WSC 02345 444 54467
       VCID: 38292E2FDE4BADC7315-5185
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory R2 F     0305  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 71BFD30BF8813C8F36B-4B3D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 BT
       Component: Komfortger·t T7B    3132  
       Coding: 11836
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 04518ADFD7033927EDD-4B01
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801F
       Component: Tırsteuer.FS BRM 0305  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
       Component: Tırsteuer.BF BRM 0205  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
       Component: Tırsteuer.HL BRM 0205  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
       Component: Tırsteuer.HR BRM 0205  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 C    HW: 4F0 907 357 C
       Component: AFS 1           H01 0020  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000019
       Shop #: WSC 20209 444 58908
       VCID: 2615F05704EF2B37939-8073
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 
       Component: AFS-Modul links H02 0020
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 035 195 H
       Component: symphony II NP2    0470   
       Coding: 01205
       Shop #: WSC 20209  
       VCID: 2C01027F1F23116745D-5067
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 04:53, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----

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