will have to give up on hope of coding MMI screen to go down

[mudd1011]

So, I asked my cool sales rep if it's possible for the service guys to tell me under the radar how to go about changing the software to disable the new us regulation on having the screen stay up since I have a vagcom..(I figured they wouldn't because it's against the law, but what the hell, doesn't hurt to ask..I'd even sign a waiver, but whatever). He said that Audi hid that part of the code from the dealers diagnostic systems, so no way to do it anyway. Oh well Just fyi for anyone hoping somebody would come up with a solution.

[RSKYBET]

Sales reps don’t know anything.


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[mudd1011]

true, but since nobody has been able to figure out (albeit, probably most people don't care or got there cars prior to the change) I assume it ain't happening. I certainly don't have the smarts to figure it out.

[comingabriel]

I am sorry, I don't follow...
What changed and what exactly do you want to do?

[Zephyr007]

I am sorry, I don't follow...
What changed and what exactly do you want to do?

Due to some US regulations the newest models of the RS3 no longer allow for the center MMI screen to be dropped when the car is on. My understanding is that it’s due to a timing requirement when the car is placed in reverse, the backup camera must be displayed in x number of seconds. So the screen can still be turned on/off via the dash button but it remains extended until the car is turned off to speed up this display requirement.

Having said that, I do think that somewhere in the long coding this could be altered, but there hasn’t yet been enough effort to find a solution.

[comingabriel]

Oh I get it now.
Could be in the long code or adaptations.
One could compare the map of the module btwn yrs, and see if there is a setting that could be changed.
Long code is easier to compare, make a video showing the settings of each byte, to see if there are any differences.

[robopp]

Oh I get it now.
Could be in the long code or adaptations.
One could compare the map of the module btwn yrs, and see if there is a setting that could be changed.
Long code is easier to compare, make a video showing the settings of each byte, to see if there are any differences.

Dude..... This has been the thought for the last 2 years. SMH


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[SlowSedans]

You can use a switch to kill a connection and it goes down. Ghetto but works.

[comingabriel]

Dude..... This has been the thought for the last 2 years. SMH


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2 yrs??? I haven't had my car a year yet, and don't have this issue.

[RSKYBET]

there hasn’t yet been enough effort to find a solution.

Bingo. I think this will change when ‘19s start landing, because this will effect all A, S, and RS cars right off the boat. No more dependence on whether an owner has had the software updated.


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[DrTJ]

So, the screen still goes down on all models when the car is off but can only go down, while driving, on "older" (I think I read - prior to mid-2018) models??
Looking to buy an '18 but want to make sure the screen retracts. I was hoping I could just tell from pictures if the screen is down...but I guess not??

[WAF]

Due to some US regulations the newest models of the RS3 no longer allow for the center MMI screen to be dropped when the car is on. My understanding is that it’s due to a timing requirement when the car is placed in reverse, the backup camera must be displayed in x number of seconds. So the screen can still be turned on/off via the dash button but it remains extended until the car is turned off to speed up this display requirement.

Having said that, I do think that somewhere in the long coding this could be altered, but there hasn’t yet been enough effort to find a solution.

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well that's kind of stupid if you ask me having a period of time for screen activation..... back up camera is an ancillary device, using your mirrors are always how your supposed to back up. Just my thoughts on it but call me old fashioned.

[comingabriel]

I know my screen would go down before the recent MMI update.
TBH, I have not paid any attention to if it can go and stay down since the MMI update (due to listening to music and stuff) and while the car is running.
Curious to know if I now have this issue?
My car was built 2/18 and bought 5/18, and it went down w/o issue prior to the update for sure, while the car was running, but now?

Will check the next time I get in the car, and if it goes down, will try and make a video of all the long code settings for the rest of you to compare to, if the setting is there and I don't have this issue...

[keninblaine]

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well that's kind of stupid if you ask me having a period of time for screen activation..... back up camera is an ancillary device, using your mirrors are always how your supposed to back up. Just my thoughts on it but call me old fashioned.

I guess the US safety folks believe the rear camera is essential enough that it needs to activate within a specified time (I think less than 1 second) of shifting into reverse, to reduce the odds of backing into a child that may be directly behind the car where mirrors wouldn't "see". I understand the concept, but given that the time delay with the screen having to pop back up is only about a second, it seems to me like overkill to eliminate the screen retraction feature. I hope that any future MMI update on my car doesn't take away that feature, as I often like to retract it on longer trips, especially at night. Just turning off the screen would eliminate the unwanted glare, but I'd still prefer to drop the whole screen for a cleaner look.
Plus: if people can't wait another half second to back up after shifting into Reverse, then those same people will likely not bother checking the screen before backing up anyway. At least IMO.

[mudd1011]

Apparently us Americans are stupid and can’t back up without instantaneous rear view camera visuals. It’s a miracle we survived before the invention of the rear camera.


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[TheContrarian]

Same in Canada. We are all children to our nanny governments.

[allerum]

Someone will eventually figure it out, because they switched this off mid cycle in 2018 its probably coding.

[TK42ONE]

If I recall correctly a dad backed over his child and killed them. He then started the campaign to make backup cameras mandatory. This was in 2015 ish or so I think. It is a sad occurrence but if you read what happened the kid crawled under the car. Camera would not have helped.

[Potatohead_RS3]

If I recall correctly a dad backed over his child and killed them. He then started the campaign to make backup cameras mandatory. This was in 2015 ish or so I think. It is a sad occurrence but if you read what happened the kid crawled under the car. Camera would not have helped.

It happens dozens of times a year.

[keninblaine]

If I recall correctly a dad backed over his child and killed them. He then started the campaign to make backup cameras mandatory. This was in 2015 ish or so I think. It is a sad occurrence but if you read what happened the kid crawled under the car. Camera would not have helped.

This is why we end up with nanny governments. Whenever an accident happens, people demand that politicians do something to prevent (or minimize the probability of) the next similar accident. So the electorate gets what they ask for: more rules and regulations. Perspective gets lost in the mix. But no politician can afford to be accused of being against anything safety related, no matter how extreme the cost is compared to the potential benefit. As the comedian Ron White says: "You can't fix stupid". Some measures, such as seatbelts and airbags, are reasonable and beneficial based on large studies. Others fall into the gray area that bumps up against the stupidity barrier, which seems to get lower every year.

[Pneub]

This is why we end up with nanny governments. Whenever an accident happens, people demand that politicians do something to prevent (or minimize the probability of) the next similar accident. So the electorate gets what they ask for: more rules and regulations. Perspective gets lost in the mix. But no politician can afford to be accused of being against anything safety related, no matter how extreme the cost is compared to the potential benefit.

This doesn’t seem all that extreme

[Potatohead_RS3]

This doesn’t seem all that extreme

Seatbelts, airbags, ABS, ESP, TPMS, the list goes on. Mandated safety items have been a thing for decades. Next up will be automatic braking systems.

[Pneub]

Seatbelts, airbags, ABS, ESP, TPMS, the list goes on. Mandated safety items have been a thing for decades. Next up will be automatic braking systems.

I'm having a hard time translating the emotion of your response. To me these all seem like requirements that the government should have on a new vehicle.

[Potatohead_RS3]

I'm having a hard time translating the emotion of your response. To me these all seem like requirements that the government should have on a new vehicle.

I don't think this is overreach, I think for the most part these are good systems.

The real debate I have is more along the lines that we "need" systems like this, and people are all gung-ho on hands-free driving, but then it's ok to have large integrated touch screen displays and infotainment... Makes no sense.

[zxsuxr]

If I recall correctly a dad backed over his child and killed them. He then started the campaign to make backup cameras mandatory. This was in 2015 ish or so I think. It is a sad occurrence but if you read what happened the kid crawled under the car. Camera would not have helped.

Was the father charged with involuntary manslaughter?

[Cool_Breeze]

Now that we're all home, who can work on figuring this out?

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[Jekyll]

So disclaimer, I don't know jack about coding these cars, but I had an idea. If only the US market cars have this feature, would it be possibly to find a car in another market, copy the coding of it, and upload it to a US market car or does it not work that way?

[littleredwagen]

So disclaimer, I don't know jack about coding these cars, but I had an idea. If only the US market cars have this feature, would it be possibly to find a car in another market, copy the coding of it, and upload it to a US market car or does it not work that way?

Certain code is hard coded into the rom and cannot be altered. To verify you need to compare physical pns and firmware revisions. If it’s hard coded, short of putting a module from car that didn’t have would be the only way, otherwise you are sol