The Hawaiian Punch build

[hawaiian punch]

https://smile.amazon.com/Nissan-1441...d-0c3639671b2d

https://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Temper...4/252614266635

Thank me later. I spent a fair amount of money on gaskets and different setups (ie Trackspeed Inconel kit with Stage 8 turbo nut kit, Stage 8 turbo bolt kit, Cometic gaskets, etc). After years of trying different configurations, this route works trouble free. Nissan OEM T3 gasket, the thread lock in the link, and better hardware if you choose (I run ARP Stainless Steel M10x1.5 10-point head bolts). I don't even have to check my setup periodically. Went for a drive few months back on the backroads hard with a few other's (read: hard). I fractured a weld on a section of one of the runners on my turbular manifold. But the T3 flange and everything associated...still intact.

Thanks man the info is always much appreciated I’m going to order them right now lol


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[ktsimp721]

Attachment 200814


https://youtu.be/MlJkZ9TApqs

Bought a dragy, figured I’d test it out haha
Still waiting on my intake manifold to be done :/ hopefully soon. Not much else has been going on I keep blowing out t3 and Wastegate gaskets but that’s about it


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Lolz this happened to me twice once when i used the 5/8 t3 spacer plate i think the bolts just simply back out I used permanent loctite an hasnt happened since “knocks on wood”

[hawaiian punch]

Lolz this happened to me twice once when i used the 5/8 t3 spacer plate i think the bolts just simply back out I used permanent loctite an hasnt happened since “knocks on wood”

Yeah I’ll have to try something else next time it goes out on me


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[hawaiian punch]

Went out this past weekend with a bunch of friends and got smoked by everyone

https://youtu.be/dgxzX-LE_2k

Me vs my friends b5 s4 with k04s e85 and meth tuned by Watkins

Those g series turbos are calling my name!



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[Seerlah]

A well sorted out K04 S4 on meth is over 400whp with that boost and e85 (depending on advanced ignition timing). If that S4 didn't walk you like that, then there would have been an issue.

With that being said, I have a friend who had (sold it) an AEB GTX3071R (just upgraded rods and springs in the head, everything else stock iirc) on meth with a custom J Fonz tune (I actually have it saved on file, but was instructed to never give it away because he spent a pretty penny on it) that used to walk stage 3 S4s. Walked my car like it was parked, and my car is no slouch.

[hawaiian punch]

A well sorted out K04 S4 on meth is over 400whp with that boost and e85 (depending on advanced ignition timing). If that S4 didn't walk you like that, then there would have been an issue.

With that being said, I have a friend who had (sold it) an AEB GTX3071R (just upgraded rods and springs in the head, everything else stock iirc) on meth with a custom J Fonz tune (I actually have it saved on file, but was instructed to never give it away because he spent a pretty penny on it) that used to walk stage 3 S4s. Walked my car like it was parked, and my car is no slouch.

Yeah I know on low boost and no meth I was keeping up now it’s no contest. I’ve been considering getting a g30 770 soon,it replaced the 3071 should make really good power and spook up decently quick.


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[Seerlah]

Spend the money if you have it and get an EFR. With 1.8L to work with, the tech this turbo provides is now tried and proven. When they first came out, real world data was necessary before people trusted that turbo. I did not even trust that turbo and they had a fair amount of failures. They did their revisions, made that turbo rather efficient, and not it reflects in their pricing. It would be rather difficult to get a more linear power band out of any turbo on the market, and it is why I suggest spend the money from the start...if you have it.

When my current CT2 5152 blows, I want to swap in a T3 7064. A little charge pipe rework, won't even need to run the Forge 001 I have now (yeah, I run a BOV), little exhaust rework (I run a Precision PW39 reroute back into the exhaust), retune, and should be good to go. Thing is, that little upgrade will not be a cheap one.

[Blazius]

lol running a bov on a 1.8t, let alone a forge one, do not use Forge parts ever.. they ALWAYS always leak at the pistons ( in the dvs and bovs) , only visible with smoke machine. G30/25 absolutely smashes the competition but its overkill and a lot of money. There is a point where the 2.7t is a better choice. You can run big numbers on 1.8t but know you will have spoolup no matter what.

[Seerlah]

Vrrmm...pssshhhh

[hawaiian punch]

My forge DV works perfect lol
Yeah you know I use to really like the efr’s maybe I’ll have to look in to them but, I am completely happy with how my Garrett’s been working and holding up. I would rather build a 2.0L then do a 2.7 swap I think.




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[Blazius]

You think it works perfect, but trust me , or hell not even me any decent tuner that does prechecks on tuning, they leak so many times at the piston, most massively but it is what it is. infact here is an example: https://youtu.be/mYj0LHbmcq4?t=128


Also what I meant is that you have to remember that this is a 4 cylinder small engine still. If you ever gonna go serious power , you will move your power band more and more up the rev range. Moving to bigger displacement allows you to run the same power level with much more useable curve.

[Seerlah]

I chose the 4 cylinder engine motor years back when gas prices were stupid. I still prefer the 4 cylinder over the 2.7T. Much simpler to work with, parts for the block can be sought out for cheap (ie Harry's Pick n Pull in PA is like $50 for a cylinder head, and not sure on entire block), you can work on many parts without having to put the vehicle into service position (I changed out the TB hydraulic tensioner on my car before with the car fully together for example, so that also can be done), 2.7T has too many important parts needed for the car to run properly while the 1.8T doesn't, the 2.7t motor needs to be pulled for some of the simplest things (now you have to go through the process of pulling tranny and motor at the same time, because ironically that is the easier way to pull the engine), having to work with two banks compared to one (ie inline-6), etc. The list goes on of why and what I don't want a 2.7T (in a different chassis, possibly) or B5 S4 in general.

I worked on my first S4 couple weeks ago (never worked on one before, but I'm mechanically inclined). Sold my winter wheels to someone and he met me maybe 5 minutes from my house at the mall (he was coming from the Bronx). But his car was a mess (I gave him instructions how to get his car back on par to stay on the road). Not visually, but engine wise (common B5 S4 issue ). So when I meet him, his car is leaking crazy amounts of oil, dash lit like a Christmas Tree, and then car cuts off. I'm not going to leave dude stranded (he would have gotten home regardless, even if he had to use my AAA card), so now a wheel sale turns into a parking lot gig on a Friday or Saturday night (house right up the street, so I had tools...that I had to run back and forth for a few times for). What happened is his serpentine belt got caught up in something and got shredded (during diagnosis of why and how it got shredded, he was the one who actually figured it out). So all his accessories were done and he was running off the battery (figured that one out). Researched how to replace it, and didn't know how simple it was. Went to Autozone, picked up replacement belt for $17, installed it in the parking lot with car fully intact, got dude's hands dirty (assisting him on how to maintain his own car, so we worked on it together and dude did quite well for a first timer...so the tradition continues), got my hands hurting (I did the brute work and showed him what and why I was doing things, while he did all the meticulous stuff like removing all the strands, removing parts to have clear access to the belt, placing belt on through the pullies correctly, etc), dude got home for $17, and now he should have the drive to understand why many do what which they do. Cool part is we had an audience in the parking lot of different types of vehicles, including truck guys (car guys enjoying Friday night during Covid-19). As soon as we were finished and the car started up first time, then the audience left (ie one crew all start up their cars at the same time and go back to enjoying the rest of the night on some Mad Max type sh*t...so peel outs leaving the parking lot for example).

[Blazius]

Nobody is arguing that 4 cyl is much more accessible engine to work on, thats obvious that the 2.7tt needed a bigger engine bay, even in the A6 its too cramped. And yes its maintenance is obviously higher since its V6.. you got more of everything. However it will take power much better stock to stock than a 1.8T, and to the nature of physics its powerband is much more nicer or desirable I should stay to modern standarts, thats the point.

If not, there is always the VR6 route. You get the cylinders, you get the displacement for turbos/power, and as a bonus the sound. It's also one of the better chain timed engine VAG built. Now ofcourse there are always reasons why one wouldnt higher displacement , laws for one.


Also FYI BW has compressor plotter on their website if you ever wanna go airwerks or efr. GTW's are also a decent choice.

[Seerlah]

I never argue that if people wanted more power from their vehicle, choose a platform that already makes decent power to start. But when it comes to modding, the point of it is to create uniqueness. Those unique vehicles on the road (no matter what it is) can not be purchased, they are made that way and more times than less it shows how much personality people have. For example, I went to a Bear Mountain meet before (NY) and they had a Chevy Suburban with an LS swap and BBS LM (replica?!?!) wheels. Vey cool meet. Use the mountain in the background to gauge the size of the field. Then behind where I took the pic there was where all the trucks and such parked (more up hill). Then there is a whole other bike section. This meet takes place weekly every summer on Wednesday. Cool part about it is people usually are just getting off work, stop here, then head home. Very relaxing meet. Plus it is at Bear Mountain State Park.

Irony of what is going on in The US, residents of the Tri-State area grew up not really giving a f*ck. So when people say they don't give a f*ck over and over and over again, I really don't think they comprehend. Look at the demographic of the people on this field...and compare that to the rest of the US for starters. We really don't give a f*ck...most of us anyways (call it a NY "Mind" State, if you will. but how do people not come off as being arrogant, while remaining ignorant for sanity sake?!?! and ignorant does not mean stupid. it means to ignore). So when I say it, it is quite different. It's basically giving a f*ck to the extreme, that manifested not giving a f*ck. Then words like "people are careless" have totally different meanings (ie they care less...than other's do, for example). Yet, very doubtful the majority of people in this photo are careless. Tu sabe? Anyways, just an intro before viewing the pictures to show that this still also exists in America.

[Seerlah]

Forgot to add, there is much more power to be squeezed out of the 1.8L NA aspect of the motor (tuner did a phenomenal job at this). 85% of the time I drive with zero boost, then when I want the extra power it is a hop spool away (once you learn the powerband of your vehicle, you know how to avoid that). People take it as a joke, but I have no problem beating mini-vans off the line (stop light).

[avantkrazy]

I chose the 4 cylinder engine motor years back when gas prices were stupid. I still prefer the 4 cylinder over the 2.7T. Much simpler to work with, parts for the block can be sought out for cheap (ie Harry's Pick n Pull in PA is like $50 for a cylinder head, and not sure on entire block), you can work on many parts without having to put the vehicle into service position (I changed out the TB hydraulic tensioner on my car before with the car fully together for example, so that also can be done), 2.7T has too many important parts needed for the car to run properly while the 1.8T doesn't, the 2.7t motor needs to be pulled for some of the simplest things (now you have to go through the process of pulling tranny and motor at the same time, because ironically that is the easier way to pull the engine), having to work with two banks compared to one (ie inline-6), etc. The list goes on of why and what I don't want a 2.7T (in a different chassis, possibly) or B5 S4 in general.

I worked on my first S4 couple weeks ago (never worked on one before, but I'm mechanically inclined). Sold my winter wheels to someone and he met me maybe 5 minutes from my house at the mall (he was coming from the Bronx). But his car was a mess (I gave him instructions how to get his car back on par to stay on the road). Not visually, but engine wise (common B5 S4 issue ). So when I meet him, his car is leaking crazy amounts of oil, dash lit like a Christmas Tree, and then car cuts off. I'm not going to leave dude stranded (he would have gotten home regardless, even if he had to use my AAA card), so now a wheel sale turns into a parking lot gig on a Friday or Saturday night (house right up the street, so I had tools...that I had to run back and forth for a few times for). What happened is his serpentine belt got caught up in something and got shredded (during diagnosis of why and how it got shredded, he was the one who actually figured it out). So all his accessories were done and he was running off the battery (figured that one out). Researched how to replace it, and didn't know how simple it was. Went to Autozone, picked up replacement belt for $17, installed it in the parking lot with car fully intact, got dude's hands dirty (assisting him on how to maintain his own car, so we worked on it together and dude did quite well for a first timer...so the tradition continues), got my hands hurting (I did the brute work and showed him what and why I was doing things, while he did all the meticulous stuff like removing all the strands, removing parts to have clear access to the belt, placing belt on through the pullies correctly, etc), dude got home for $17, and now he should have the drive to understand why many do what which they do. Cool part is we had an audience in the parking lot of different types of vehicles, including truck guys (car guys enjoying Friday night during Covid-19). As soon as we were finished and the car started up first time, then the audience left (ie one crew all start up their cars at the same time and go back to enjoying the rest of the night on some Mad Max type sh*t...so peel outs leaving the parking lot for example).

Helping this guy out....Thats the good shit right there. We need more of this in the world.

I got 99 problems and my B5 is 98 of them...

[Seerlah]

It is an Audizine tradition. People on this forum board now are pure flukes.

When I first joined Audizine, the demographic was completely different. For example, the B7 chassis was just coming out and people had no idea what an Audi was. I wanted the B5 for a long time I seen it, but did not know much about cars at the time. But...car hit a spot first time I seen it. Luckily I came across a manual transmission in North Jersey with the 1.8T engine and Quattro drivetrain for $7,700 (basically bone stock, with just an upgraded Nuespeed rear anti-sway bar) with 107k on the clock (use those prices for comparison to today, and use your imagination how the demographic changed). Talked the dealership down to that price as it was actually more, he had other's lined up, and I scooped it up before the next guy (vehicle was pretty sought out back then, and it was in really good condition).

When I first joined Audizine, the community was much different (I still converse with many of them through text, and had a group chat with a couple older AZ heads maybe 2 days ago). There was a guy who purchased what I want to say was a KMD intake manifold, and was asking people for contributions for testing purposes so the community could have the information. Mind you, the older heads on this site are the ones who really paved the way and granted information for people like me to educate myself. This was a very technical forum board, with many on this site who specialized is some aspect of the automotive field (Porsche techs, Audi techs, VW techs, Indy shop owners, engineers, etc. for example, JHM was not even a company. they were enthusiasts on this site just like the next. and look where they are now.). These are guys I converse with via text and ask for assistance when I need it. Not worth asking for assistance on this forum board anymore. You will most likely be wasting your time. Anyways, there was a guy who was asking for donations to have his car dyno'd so he could share the information with the community (not sure what else he had done to his car). I offered $20 towards it, and they respected me for that. That entire demographic is gone now, but that is how it used to be on here.

[ktsimp721]

Yeah I’ll have to try something else next time it goes out on me


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Ya know it’s funny I’m doing the custom exhaust as we speak 3 in stainless... I noticed my t3 flange gasket has actually burnt away in the middle again interestingly enough I hadn’t noticed a leak ... oh well I think this time around I’m gonna tig weld it with stainless steel. I did some testing with a stock manifold and blown ko3 welded very nicely I’ll see if the heat from the car would crack the weld id be surprised if it did as they have similar heat dissipation qualities

[hawaiian punch]

Yeah I’m lucky my close friends are really knowledgeable about this platform and cars in general, they’ve helped me every step of the way with this. Check some of them out on instagram @nyaudisource and @theltrainwaits4no1 . 600+whp a4, built s4s all kinds of Audi goodness


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[moclakens]

This was a very technical forum board, with many on this site who specialized is some aspect of the automotive field (Porsche techs, Audi techs, VW techs, Indy shop owners, engineers, etc.)

Very true, I’m glad I was here for at least the tail end of the glory days. I can credit audizine and audiforums(going way back lol) for me going into engineering and getting my mechanical engineering degree. These days though it’s hard to find good info on the boards. I’m just happy I’ve built up the knowledge base I have and that there a still a few people left so I can keep enjoying these old cars for as long as possible.

On another note, I really enjoy this build. I always thought that with the right turbo you could get allot of out a relatively stock(at least displacement with no to minimal head work) 1.8t. The only real advantage to the more modern engines in my eyes is better control of timing.

I bought 99 avant yesterday to play with and am already thinking about a gt25-550...

[Blazius]

The only real advantage to the more modern engines in my eyes is better control of timing.

Not really. ME7 already has high degree accuracy ignition timing along with fully individual dwell angle, and has one of the best knock control modules in a factory ecu, infact ME7 is still more "modern" than some lower end brand ecu's today lol. The hardware in modern engines is what makes up some of the difference.

[moclakens]

Not really. ME7 already has high degree accuracy ignition timing along with fully individual dwell angle, and has one of the best knock control modules in a factory ecu, infact ME7 is still more "modern" than some lower end brand ecu's today lol. The hardware in modern engines is what makes up some of the difference.

Sorry, cam timing was what I meant

[hawaiian punch]

Went out to the track last weekend for my first time , ran a 12.8 at 110mph
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https://youtu.be/BUI6i56Rxqg


I also finally put on my 17z’s
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And now I’ve been swapping over my harness to one I’ve had sitting around with a wot box wired in

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It should be done today I have to find my icm delete and coil conversion adapters and play around with the wot box to get it all set up right


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[Seerlah]

I like how your brake rotors are going in the correct direction. Many don't even do that correctly.

[hawaiian punch]

I like how your brake rotors are going in the correct direction. Many don't even do that correctly.

Haha thanks!

I waiting on coil pack adapters for my harness since the last one had them wired in and I gave away my old set to a friend lol

Black Friday I ordered myself a set of V3’s, Bilsteins and tires for my daily (s10 blazer) and an Eastwood welder should all be here soon.


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[Seerlah]

My car is on a time out!

Had the speedo pinned couple weeks back and bent valves. Upgraded Piper Street cams, everything stock minus upgraded rods. Also have a nice crack on a weld on my tubular manifold. So new project is to pop head off, check damage, and go from there. Not in the mood to do a stroker (some in garage for it, but don't have the complete funds nor the will right now), assuming piston dome nicks are tolerable (just lost power, coasted to the shoulder, cranked car, zero compression, but zero funny noises the whole time with 10psi on my Oil pressure gauge as I cranked the car). If I can get away with SuperTech valve springs, 8 SuperTech exhaust valves, and 12 OEM used lapped in valves I'm going for it (should be able to fix everything with upgrades sub $750). Other way is a project that I don't want to do right now (real build with CNC port head, FSI crank balanced and not shaved for OEM driveability, etc).

[hawaiian punch]

Ouch that sucks I have a brand new set of ferrera exhaust valves I might be willing to sell, I was thinking of going with +1s. I’m in the works of buying a 058 stroker now it wouldn’t go in for a while though


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[SilverSline]

The Avant looks good! It's nice to see a current build and the results you're getting. How does it drive just cruising around? Could you daily it if you needed to?

[hawaiian punch]

Thanks! I daily it all the time like 75-80 miles a day to and from work. It’s easy to drive in traffic, around town is fine too. When I do take it I’m always getting pulls or little races in. She’s seen almost 10k mile this year


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[hawaiian punch]

Thanks! I daily it all the time like 75-80 miles a day to and from work. It’s easy to drive in traffic, around town is fine too. When I do take it I’m always getting pulls or little races in. She’s seen almost 10k mile since January when I installed the turbo


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[d!llo]

Went out to the track last weekend for my first time , ran a 12.8 at 110mph
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https://youtu.be/BUI6i56Rxqg


I also finally put on my 17z’s
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And now I’ve been swapping over my harness to one I’ve had sitting around with a wot box wired in

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It should be done today I have to find my icm delete and coil conversion adapters and play around with the wot box to get it all set up right


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You have a wot box? If so, ive got a few questions for ya.


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[hawaiian punch]

You have a wot box? If so, ive got a few questions for ya.


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Yeah I bought the harness with the WOT box installed already from a friend and I’m actually having some trouble with it at the moment haha


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[SilverSline]

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That's not bad at all! I have been wanting to do a similar setup on my 01 Avant......getting there slowly. Appreciate the info and hope you keep this thread going.

[d!llo]

Yeah I bought the harness with the WOT box installed already from a friend and I’m actually having some trouble with it at the moment haha


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What type of issues are you having?


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[hawaiian punch]

That's not bad at all! I have been wanting to do a similar setup on my 01 Avant......getting there slowly. Appreciate the info and hope you keep this thread going.

Yeah I’m in the process of buying a new place at the moment so I’ve kind of put the build on the back burner for a little while (besides the v3’s I just ordered haha) and I just drive and enjoy it now. A 2 liter with a g30 is my my next move eventually


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[hawaiian punch]

What type of issues are you having?


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I was getting some misfire at full throttle I ended finding a loose ground, now I just have to tap in to the clutch switch and hopefully it’ll be good I’ve just been to busy to mess with it


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[hawaiian punch]

Finally received my V3’s the other day! Also bought a new to me Rear Euro avant bumper and a replica rs4 wing

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Went out with my friend in his get Watkins tuned K04 B5S4, he’s now running 93 instead of e85. It made it a way closer race haha

https://youtu.be/DOwK1Ho0hwA





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[hawaiian punch]

Also NyAudiSource hoodies are in stock and for sale @NyAudiSource on Instagram

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[hawaiian punch]

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Been busy as always but I managed to scoop up a set of superleggera’s and some Michelin ps4s tires to complement my new v3’s . I have some racing coming up March 29th at NJ’s thunderbolt bolt track so all this should work real nice together.


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[hawaiian punch]

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Went to thunderbolt race track in jersey last week, great experience never did anything like that besides driving on the belt parkway haha

My fourth lap around I blew 3rd gear unfortunately. It was a fast track a little to fast for 2nd gear and a little too slow for 3rd, I was having some trouble figuring out witch gear to be in.

Now that I blew that trans I finally get to put in this v6 trans I’ve been hoarding

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