what in the actual F - Seriously!

[JBones81]

It's honestly comical at this point. Obviously, tuning the 8y must be a huge PITA if we're more than 2 years in and no one has a solution.

BUT

to keep telling us it's "2 weeks off" or it's "coming soon" when clearly it isn't and never has been. Cmon! The holidays were a month ago - when we were last told that tunes were just about to be released...

I sold my 2018 and purchased a 2024 because I trusted that tuning solutions were right around the corner. I've had this car for 7 months now and am still completely in the dark as to why we still don't have any tunes from Unitronic, 034, APR, etc etc. If you can't crack it, just be honest and say so. Prevent future RS3 owners from making the mistake of buying a platform that has a pretty low ceiling on easy power mods. I'm starting to wish I had bought a different car.

[Tactical_ted]

I am enjoying my car just fine somewhat stock.

Working slowly on the upgrades for support to scratch that itch.

[Crowlski]

It's honestly comical at this point. Obviously, tuning the 8y must be a huge PITA if we're more than 2 years in and no one has a solution.

BUT

to keep telling us it's "2 weeks off" or it's "coming soon" when clearly it isn't and never has been. Cmon! The holidays were a month ago - when we were last told that tunes were just about to be released...

I sold my 2018 and purchased a 2024 because I trusted that tuning solutions were right around the corner. I've had this car for 7 months now and am still completely in the dark as to why we still don't have any tunes from Unitronic, 034, APR, etc etc. If you can't crack it, just be honest and say so. Prevent future RS3 owners from making the mistake of buying a platform that has a pretty low ceiling on easy power mods. I'm starting to wish I had bought a different car.

JB, I hear you. Stringing us along is not good for business. Does it build hype? Sure. But you can do both; have a product ready to launch AND build the anticipation around it. But who knows? Maybe there was a product ready or they thought it was, but a problem ensued during last min testing. But be honest about it, as you say.
Another reason why I love my JB4. TBH I'd get it if I were you. Then when the tunes are available I recommend waiting until others have real-world experience and use of it this way any bugs in the tune can be worked out. Then when your ready you can either sell the JB4 or run it tandem with the tune. Good luck bro.

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[RudyH]

ya, this is something I am worried about too. I don't like my 8Y S3 as its literally missing the rear diff and arguably an upgraded transmission, but, otherwise...I bought it to see how much would I appreciate a RS3 in the future.

...the E888 EVO4 is a pretty good engine, does it sound as good as the DAZA, no, but with an exhaust its not bad with the sports exhaust. Do I see myself making, even with the RS3 over 600 whp? no. I want power, but most importantly enjoyment of the drive (after giving up my 6MT?)

Now, I am NOT one that encourages street racing, I won't even be baited into it (maybe 20 yrs ago...). There are quite a few videos online of these type of results. The MK8 R and 8Y.5 S3 are quite capable, however missing the TCU tune - which can be fixed with a mech unit replacement from a MK7.5 or early MK8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7TAdvjXquo

So ya this is something on the back my mind with waiting on my RS3, that cost to upgrade from a CPO 8Y.5 S3 (I expect it to lose $15-20k in the first year, hence why I bought a CPO'd 8Y S3) to a new RS3 (let's be honest the RS3 will hold its value for time to come period) - I dunno.

[dmdusn]

It's honestly comical at this point. Obviously, tuning the 8y must be a huge PITA if we're more than 2 years in and no one has a solution.

BUT

to keep telling us it's "2 weeks off" or it's "coming soon" when clearly it isn't and never has been. Cmon! The holidays were a month ago - when we were last told that tunes were just about to be released...

I sold my 2018 and purchased a 2024 because I trusted that tuning solutions were right around the corner. I've had this car for 7 months now and am still completely in the dark as to why we still don't have any tunes from Unitronic, 034, APR, etc etc. If you can't crack it, just be honest and say so. Prevent future RS3 owners from making the mistake of buying a platform that has a pretty low ceiling on easy power mods. I'm starting to wish I had bought a different car.

I guess "after the holiday break" doesn't mean after the holiday break like it does to everyone else. January 6th would have been after the break and what was absolutely implied when they made that post.

[LJS5]

[bokiboki]

[audios3]

Be a big boy and put your car on syvecs if you don't want to wait on an OTS tune. Considering APR, Unitronic, 034 anyone really is going to have to physically posses your ECU likely to do some soldering to unlock the encryption there are a lot of logistics for these companies to work out. I traded my A91 MT edition Supra for the RS3 last year at least plug and play standalone is an option for the RS3, femto unlock on the manual Supra ECU was your only option and even then it was not a full unlock like the auto ecu could get.

[mtwallace85]

I’ve heard through the grapevine of testers that the tuning process is going to involve sending the ECU to Unitronic in addition to it costing fairly close to syvecs.

[Crowlski]

I’ve heard through the grapevine of testers that the tuning process is going to involve sending the ECU to Unitronic in addition to it costing fairly close to syvecs.

If it's this hard to crack the ECU, does anyone think any tune that hits the Market will be flawless? This means the first set of users will be unkowning lab rats. I dunno... I'm a little reluctant ripping out my ecu and sending it out to be manipulated by someone who has a new program to extract more performance until this uncharted road is paved sort of speak.

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[Criticality]

If you think this is bad just wait until you actually tune and have issues. No support whatsoever and their logging software is extremely limited. Only they can see all the parameters and when you submit your log they come back with a "half solution" or no response at all.

If you're one of the lucky ones that doesn't have an issue you'll be fine.

[Rguy]

There is a unitronic social media manager making all these rs3 posts laughing their ass off at us.

[Crowlski]

If you think this is bad just wait until you actually tune and have issues. No support whatsoever and their logging software is extremely limited. Only they can see all the parameters and when you submit your log they come back with a "half solution" or no response at all.

If you're one of the lucky ones that doesn't have an issue you'll be fine.

But that's exactly what I'm saying.

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[Crowlski]

There is a unitronic social media manager making all these rs3 posts laughing their ass off at us.

Are you calling me a bot???

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[grandpab]

I just think its funny to see Unitronic getting so much shit for taking too long. APR spent 8+ months on a revision for their tunes with the mk6 GTIs and then when it came out everyone had issues with it. They had to turn around release a new revision ASAP. It was better, but it ran like absolute dog shit on specific box codes. There were so few people affected APR didn't give a shit and it took them forever to fix it. I fixed it by switching to another tuner and swearing off APR. That wasn't even with an ECU that was difficult to crack and they fucked it up that bad.

If it ends up not being a flash tune I probably won't be interested, but I won't be interested until my warranty is up anyway.

[NapalmEnema]

I thought you could send your ECU to some shops in Europe? Know there is a Stage 2 one out of UK you could get working with? Seems reasonable but would prob invest in a separate ecu :x

[Crowlski]

Sounds like other than CANBUS type add-on Tuners, ripping out the stock ECU and installing a digital system that you can plug in a laptop and tune it yourself (like what drag cars do) might be the only other option atleast until flash tunes are vetted.

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[Jetdriver]

This will probably be exactly like the new BMW's. Bench unlock with the ability to flash tune with phone app, etc. Or at least I'd hope.

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[mtwallace85]

I just think it’s funny to see Unitronic getting so much shit for taking too long.

That’s not why people are talking shit, though. Unitronic teases products FOREVER but act like they’re about to release hence the 2 weeks joke you keep seeing tossed around. They teased flex fuel for about 2 years before it released and now they’re doing the same thing with the 8Y tune. I think I remember the intercooler and downpipe also taking much longer than was being hinted through their posts. They love stringing people along.

[NapalmEnema]

Unitronic went pretty hard like it was going to drop like Jan 1st or something. Even I got a bit interested. Lame.

[JBones81]

Unitronic went pretty hard like it was going to drop like Jan 1st or something. Even I got a bit interested. Lame.

Yea that was the last straw for me. It's like they're just purposely messing with us.

[ZestyJetta]

https://imgur.com/a/UNocZuM

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https://imgur.com/a/UNocZuM

[gpm24780]

Whoa… that’s quick for FBO setup on a stock turbo

[Jetdriver]

https://imgur.com/a/UNocZuM

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https://imgur.com/a/UNocZuM

"Full bolt-on"? What does that mean exactly?

[mtwallace85]

"Full bolt-on"? What does that mean exactly?

For the 8Y probably intake, intercooler, exhaust, spark plugs, and injectors.

[Jetdriver]

For the 8Y probably intake, intercooler, exhaust, spark plugs, and injectors.

And what engine management? JB4? How's he running a 10.8 with bolt ons? Am I missing something?

[NapalmEnema]

And what engine management? JB4? How's he running a 10.8 with bolt ons? Am I missing something?

That's what I'm saying lol. Sweet videos - HOW DID THEY DO THAT. And apparently multiple people since it was two different RS3's putting the beat down on the 1/4 mile.

[mtwallace85]

And what engine management? JB4? How's he running a 10.8 with bolt ons? Am I missing something?

I would say it’s either JB4 or that person is one of the Unitronic beta testers; they have a few people out there. Could also just be someone that sent their ECU to one of the European companies that offers bench flashing.

[audios3]

I am pretty sure cicio are unitronic dealers so probably more teasing

[djn876]

Unitronic has no release date planned last I talked to them but they are on the way. Sure they are releasing stuff that makes it feel close, but recently they haven't been teasing a specific date. The new Year's post I'll agree was a little anticlimactic. To be fair even APR made a post a while ago they are working on it and really not much news since. You do have to send your ECU to them and have a few options to avoid downtime.

There is no way it will cost what Syvecs costs since that is 7k for parts not including a tune or install if you don't DIY, so figure 8 to 10k all in. Maybe if you decide to buy a new ECU from them instead of mailing it.

The delay in tuning isn't hard to figure out, it's a ton of R&D, it isn't like they just need to crack the ECU and then copy/paste the 8V tunes in. This ECU uses a different control strategy and therefore they had to build it from scratch. Couple that with the fact that 8Y production numbers were overall pretty low until 2024, there was likely not enough business case to really spend a lot of R&D money on it.

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[mtwallace85]

There is no way it will cost what Syvecs costs since that is 7k for parts not including a tune or install if you don't DIY, so figure 8 to 10k all in. Maybe if you decide to buy a new ECU from them instead of mailing it.

Please go reread what I wrote; I didn’t say it costs what syvecs costs. Also, syvecs is about $5000 and tuning is $2000. Finally, it takes about 30 minutes to install it if you know what you’re doing so that cost is practically non-existent.

[IanCH]

Lmao talk about tuning cars like it's the damn moon landing.

The fundamentals of how you tune the engine are well known, it's the same engine.

[Jetdriver]

I would say it’s either JB4 or that person is one of the Unitronic beta testers; they have a few people out there. Could also just be someone that sent their ECU to one of the European companies that offers bench flashing.

Pretty impressive if it's a JB4 with that trap speed. With some good traction, 10.9 is probably doable, but that 131mph trap speed tells a different story. That's not a JB4.

[Crowlski]

Pretty impressive if it's a JB4 with that trap speed. With some good traction, 10.9 is probably doable, but that 131mph trap speed tells a different story. That's not a JB4.

BMS will do a custom map.

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[Jetdriver]

BMS will do a custom map.

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Yep. I know. I ran an 11.3 @ 125 mph on the dragy on a custom Map 6. I have been driving around on Map 5 lately, though.

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[natman]

How is the DSG reacting to the JB4 on these things? Is there any "funkiness" line I've seen with other trans's using the JB4? My daughters 2023 is begging for some power and maybe we'll just go this route.

[Crowlski]

How is the DSG reacting to the JB4 on these things? Is there any "funkiness" line I've seen with other trans's using the JB4? My daughters 2023 is begging for some power and maybe we'll just go this route.

No issues on my end. Only wish there was E85 close by so I can really see what the JB4 can do to my stock 8Y. I'm running map 4 on 94 octane and it's lovely between 3 to 5k rpm or so.

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[NMSVT]

If you think this is bad just wait until you actually tune and have issues. No support whatsoever and their logging software is extremely limited. Only they can see all the parameters and when you submit your log they come back with a "half solution" or no response at all.

If you're one of the lucky ones that doesn't have an issue you'll be fine.

This! Support is so trash being such a huge company. They NEVER get back to you. I can't imagine once the 8Y (if ever) software gets released all the issues there will be.

Another + to why I bought a mint 2020 9,XXX mile 8V last March.

But cheer up guys... Word around the mill is just another 2 weeks....

[Jetdriver]

How is the DSG reacting to the JB4 on these things? Is there any "funkiness" line I've seen with other trans's using the JB4? My daughters 2023 is begging for some power and maybe we'll just go this route.

Once you go up to Map 5 and beyond with E30 and start making some serious power (475-490whp), the trans seems to slip a little on upshifts depending on throttle position.

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[mtwallace85]

Pretty impressive if it's a JB4 with that trap speed. With some good traction, 10.9 is probably doable, but that 131mph trap speed tells a different story. That's not a JB4.

I agree, it’s probably a Unitronic beta tester; Cicio is a Unitronic dealer.