3.0T Avants for sale sightings

[B. Rock]

Yeah, no worries. For some (a lot of) folks this is just a daily driver, family car, etc., that they're trying to limp along with minimal money - hence why you end up with things like zip tied wipers. People tend not to not be honest and say 'I haven't put a tool to this car or even popped the hood in 6 months' or 'my definition of maintenance is taking it to Grease Monkey every 10k miles' when they're writing ads, ha. Doesn't sell as well as stating 'excellent condition'. As always, caveat emptor.

[Henning2710]

Yeah, no worries. For some (a lot of) folks this is just a daily driver, family car, etc., that they're trying to limp along with minimal money - hence why you end up with things like zip tied wipers. People tend not to not be honest and say 'I haven't put a tool to this car or even popped the hood in 6 months' or 'my definition of maintenance is taking it to Grease Monkey every 10k miles' when they're writing ads, ha. Doesn't sell as well as stating 'excellent condition'. As always, caveat emptor.

Yeah, you're right. When someone has an A6 Avant I always assume that isn't by accident and I bet we all learned at one point or other not to assume anything.

[G-Can]

Did they even scan the vehicle for errors?

I mean, this list is all cosmetics, and nothing major wrong with the car.
Needs an alignment, few bushings here and there, few couple dollar gaskets..

All together 1000 bucks

You're r buying used 10 years car and to expect prime example is just naive.

[Henning2710]

You're r buying used 10 years car and to expect prime example is just naive.

Generally I agree with that, but if someone specifically claims the car is in "excellent condition in and out, carefully maintained and driven" I would expect it to be in better shape than that. People just need to be more honest in the assessment of used things they're trying to sell.

And whatever the cause of any of those items is, you may be able to get it done for $1,000, but there may well be much more expensive underlying issues and the general neglect would suggest that the vehicle has not been maintained well and may develop other expensive issues because of it. That to me is more of an issue that the immediate attention it needs.

[B. Rock]

I'm not too sure you'd get that specific car back to 100% with $1k, and definitely not if you're paying people to do the work. If that coolant leak near the water pump isn't the hose or clamp and is in fact the water pump or the crossover pipe (or really anything in that vicinity), there goes your $1k pretty quick. Not to mention the oil leaks, granted they are small, can be labor intensive as well, depending on the exact sources. I'd also bet the trans fluid (or any of the diffs) has never been touched and it's due for plugs. Sway bar links are cheap but depending on what parts you use, front control arms are not. I'd expect $2-3k to go into that car real quick. That's not counting any of the cosmetic stuff.

[G-Can]

That's all fine.

But I don't see nothing weird about used car having issues. Nobody is selling perfect condition car. Wouldn't be for sale then, wouldn't it.

And not everybody has same standards what they consider great and serviced. :D

Oh boy how many I went to see after being told its mint and great.

And then I see a daily beater, literally falling apart. BUT, I quote, It "runs" great, in translation, it will start and roll.
Fact that it's painted and repainted numerous times, that it's rusty all over the place,that its dirty inside like I wouldnt drive pigs in it, that it has NO bushings and tires, etc.... god knows condition under the hood...

that's why you don't buy a car sight unseen and without a look on the hoist and a drive...

[Henning2710]

I've learned that my expectations in the honesty of others are unwarranted.

At least sebvw did do the smart thing and got a PPI and I can only urge anyone to always get one if you're seriously considering buying a used car. Even from dealers and even if the history checks out and the car looks to be in great shape. I've had two occasions where a PPI on an otherwise seemingly perfect car revealed enough for me to not even consider it anymore.

Here's a run-down of my car-buying process for anyone who's interested in such a thing:

1. Prefer private sellers or dealers that do not offer financing. They're actually in the business of selling cars and not just use cars as vehicles (no pun intended) to sell loans.
2. Communicate with the seller. Give your name and location and use whole sentences and be polite (I know I don't have to point out the last two in this forum). Ask any questions and ask them to please get back to you if they don't have the answer. Get a VIN.
3. Pull a vehicle history report. When I'm serious about it I get both, Carfax and Auto Check. I've had things revealed in one that weren't in the other. I usually start with Carfax and if that doesn't reveal anything concerning and I am more serious about that specific car I also pull the Auto Check.
4. Google the VIN and contact previous owners if you can find any. Most are happy to have a chat about a car they liked and help you not get screwed. Be polite and call at a reasonable time.
5. Use any information in the reports, from your web search, and from the previous owners to find out more about things that look and/or sound odd (I've dug up an accident report from a Sheriff's website for an old lady forgetting to put it in park and slowly rolling into a wall, scratching the bumper, so nothing to worry about that accident)
6. If all that checks out and your gut and brain both say it's a good candidate (and I mean good gut feeling and no doubt in your mind), get a PPI. If the seller does not allow it, move on.
7. Based on the outcome of the PPI research potential repairs and research the car's value based on its current state and with the repairs done, set your maximum price. Be reasonable and think about what you should reasonably expect if you were on the other side of the deal. Stick with it.
8. If the seller isn't willing to sell for that price, move on. Only pay what a car is really worth unless of course there is sentimental value that is worth more to you than just the rational one.
9. Always keep in mind that nothing is guaranteed when buying a used car and have a realistic budget for future repairs, especially for our beloved Audis.
10. If the seller was polite and reasonable, but you just didn't see eye to eye on the price, consider giving them what you found in your research to help them sell their car. You won't have any use for it and it's always good to be kind.

I have yet to come by any issues with any vehicles I've bought using that process. Of course I wasn't always this thorough and have learned from my mistakes...

[B. Rock]

Yeah, I've been burned once or twice trusting people. Most recent was the WJ. Had a check engine light on, PO said it was the O2 sensor. Cool, the test drive wasn't anywhere near an auto store to get the code pulled and it drove decently so I went with it. Turns out it's a bad PCM and kind of a pain to find the right part to fix it. Huge deal? No, and the price for the rig was still worth it. Still chaps my ass though. I always keep in mind that no one sells a perfect vehicle - there's always a reason it's up for sale.

[Henning2710]

Yeah, I've been burned once or twice trusting people. Most recent was the WJ. Had a check engine light on, PO said it was the O2 sensor. Cool, the test drive wasn't anywhere near an auto store to get the code pulled and it drove decently so I went with it. Turns out it's a bad PCM and kind of a pain to find the right part to fix it. Huge deal? No, and the price for the rig was still worth it. Still chaps my ass though. I always keep in mind that no one sells a perfect vehicle - there's always a reason it's up for sale.

That is true. It's just important to figure out what that reason is and that the price they're asking reflects it.

[tishi]

unicorn alert!!!

2011 Prestage AVANT in OR.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...CALERTSEMLSRCH

-tishi

[G-Can]

unicorn alert!!!

2011 Prestage AVANT in OR.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...CALERTSEMLSRCH

-tishi

now this is a NICE example, of fully loaded, late MY and great combo. Mine (2007) is same color, same wheels combo, so funny he has a twin out there.

But price is definitelly very high for pretty high mileage where it starts asking for fair bit of maintenance.

[DC Dawg]

now this is a NICE example, of fully loaded, late MY and great combo. Mine (2007) is same color, same wheels combo, so funny he has a twin out there.

But price is definitelly very high for pretty high mileage where it starts asking for fair bit of maintenance.

While this looks to be a true rare beast, it is a little high. I’d pay 14 if I were looking.

[G-Can]

While this looks to be a true rare beast, it is a little high. I’d pay 14 if I were looking.

It should be immaculate for 14. If it has great service history, (hoping it has done anything other then oil changes)
if coils, battery, shocks, struts, suspension, gaskets, seals, havent been touched.... then this is definitelly not worth the money.
Most likelly why its getting sold... time for big investments at those kms....

[Miller136]

I agree with DC Dawg. It is a little high. I paid less a year ago with a lot less miles. Mine wasn’t a prestige. Therefore it does not have push button start, nav system, rear heated seats, etc. It does have what I was after. I wanted an alternative to all the SUVs out there with a powerful engine. I am curious about the rear cargo mat. I’ve tried to find one to fit the C6 but haven’t found one.


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[valet]

I am curious about the rear cargo mat. I’ve tried to find one to fit the C6 but haven’t found one.


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I had to oem rear mat but it covered the rail system in the hatch - plus it was slicker than day after taco bell. Ended up buying a Lloyd's mat that fits in between the rails. It's supper grippy (nothing slides unless you want it to) and my only complaint is that it doesn't have a raised edge to trap a bunch of water (but little spills are contained). I use the lloyd mat year round except for when I travel to the snow.

The lloyds mat is quality but when I last checked (early may late april) the factory was shut down due to covid

[tishi]

yet, another unicorn...

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=274785933

-tishi

[Iriali]

I've learned that my expectations in the honesty of others are unwarranted.

At least sebvw did do the smart thing and got a PPI and I can only urge anyone to always get one if you're seriously considering buying a used car. Even from dealers and even if the history checks out and the car looks to be in great shape. I've had two occasions where a PPI on an otherwise seemingly perfect car revealed enough for me to not even consider it anymore.

Here's a run-down of my car-buying process for anyone who's interested in such a thing:

1. Prefer private sellers or dealers that do not offer financing. They're actually in the business of selling cars and not just use cars as vehicles (no pun intended) to sell loans.
2. Communicate with the seller. Give your name and location and use whole sentences and be polite (I know I don't have to point out the last two in this forum). Ask any questions and ask them to please get back to you if they don't have the answer. Get a VIN.
3. Pull a vehicle history report. When I'm serious about it I get both, Carfax and Auto Check. I've had things revealed in one that weren't in the other. I usually start with Carfax and if that doesn't reveal anything concerning and I am more serious about that specific car I also pull the Auto Check.
4. Google the VIN and contact previous owners if you can find any. Most are happy to have a chat about a car they liked and help you not get screwed. Be polite and call at a reasonable time.
5. Use any information in the reports, from your web search, and from the previous owners to find out more about things that look and/or sound odd (I've dug up an accident report from a Sheriff's website for an old lady forgetting to put it in park and slowly rolling into a wall, scratching the bumper, so nothing to worry about that accident)
6. If all that checks out and your gut and brain both say it's a good candidate (and I mean good gut feeling and no doubt in your mind), get a PPI. https://au.edubirdie.com/myob-assignment-help If the seller does not allow it, move on.
7. Based on the outcome of the PPI research potential repairs and research the car's value based on its current state and with the repairs done, set your maximum price. Be reasonable and think about what you should reasonably expect if you were on the other side of the deal. Stick with it.
8. If the seller isn't willing to sell for that price, move on. Only pay what a car is really worth unless of course there is sentimental value that is worth more to you than just the rational one.
9. Always keep in mind that nothing is guaranteed when buying a use car and have a realistic budget for future repairs, especially for our beloved Audis.
10. If the seller was polite and reasonable, but you just didn't see eye to eye on the price, consider giving them what you found in your research to help them sell their car. You won't have any use for it and it's always good to be kind.

I have yet to come by any issues with any vehicles I've bought using that process. Of course I wasn't always this thorough and have learned from my mistakes...

Thank you for such a valuable information. I was looking for a long time detailed explanation. Really appreciate your reply!

[jbain2]

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https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...lerId=42586258


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[Miller136]

No affiliation.


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...lerId=42586258


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Looks like a nice one owner car. If it sells for this price, glad to see prices holding on our cars.


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[Yukon101]

Im suprised I didnt see my new car posted in here. Friday I took delivery of a 2011 C6 A6 Avant prestige with every option including 18" sport package, cold weather package, and rear side airbag package.

[DC Dawg]

Im suprised I didnt see my new car posted in here. Friday I took delivery of a 2011 C6 A6 Avant prestige with every option including 18" sport package, cold weather package, and rear side airbag package. It also has 82k miles. I paid $14k~. It is a 2 owner car and meticulously dealer maintained. I also had the local Audi dealer do a ppi same day and with their best tech because my spouse used to work service there a couple months ago. All they found was a questionable bushing on an upper control arm (I really leveraged that against the selling dealer as a "safety concern"), seeping valve cover gasket, and half the wind blocker on the sunshade didn't stick up. The car was posted for 4 days and had numerous offers from out of state, I just happened to get a leg up knowing when they got their brake parts in and walked in right as it was coming off the lift.

So to sum it up, I have the Bose system, Audi advanced key. adaptive xenon headlights, 4 spoke heated steering wheel with paddles, heated rear seats, 18" wheels, S-line trim in my door sills. Not to mention car is the silver exterior with black interior.

Are you in wagon elitist jerks on Facebook ? Also the sport package is 19 inch im pretty sure

[Yukon101]

I am not, this is my first wagon. That would be weird, the window sticker next to me lists it as "18" Sport PKG"

[11A6]

They offered sport pkg on 18 as well as least for 11 avants and it's one of two things I'd add to mine - that and the B&0 speakers.

[valet]

Are you in wagon elitist jerks on Facebook ? Also the sport package is 19 inch im pretty sure

Great now I have to join another facebook group

[Yukon101]

I quite like the Bose mine has. I'm still not used to how moody Audi is about options. Like how the early C6 has adaptive cruise but my last year doesn't.

[G-Can]

I quite like the Bose mine has. I'm still not used to how moody Audi is about options. Like how the early C6 has adaptive cruise but my last year doesn't.

It was an option you had to click. Didn't come with it standard in any trim

[DC Dawg]

Great now I have to join another facebook group

I’ll invite you if you send me your Facebook info

[98_A6_28]

Has anyone driven one of these and an SQ5 and if so, how did they compare? Has anyone tuned one of these and is it as tuneable as the other 3.0T's in the Q5/SQ5/Q7/S4 etc? From what I've heard, the A6 has a 6 or 7sp transmission and the others have an 8sp which makes the standard tuning packages not work with the A6 though I've heard mixed reports on this.

I'm looking at an SQ5/Q5 but I originally really wanted a A6 wagon but a number of people said these were "dogs" compared to even the standard tuned Q5 3.0T. So, I'm not sure what to believe and what the potential are for a tuned A6. I just wish there were newer models than 2011!

[eswift]

I’ll invite you if you send me your Facebook info

I applied and didn't get accepted yet lol.

[jbain2]

Has anyone driven one of these and an SQ5 and if so, how did they compare? Has anyone tuned one of these and is it as tuneable as the other 3.0T's in the Q5/SQ5/Q7/S4 etc? From what I've heard, the A6 has a 6 or 7sp transmission and the others have an 8sp which makes the standard tuning packages not work with the A6 though I've heard mixed reports on this.

I'm looking at an SQ5/Q5 but I originally really wanted a A6 wagon but a number of people said these were "dogs" compared to even the standard tuned Q5 3.0T. So, I'm not sure what to believe and what the potential are for a tuned A6. I just wish there were newer models than 2011!

Plenty of folks who have done a stage 1 tune all they way up to dual pulley with TCU tune. You are correct though, different trans between the C6.5 A6 and SQ5’s. Tuning and upgrades are more readily available for the SQ. Smaller interior and different platform. Just depends on what you want. That was my comparator when I was looking. Ended up with the A6 avant. Couldn’t be happier.


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[Yukon101]

There's a trans tune for the C6? Everywhere I looked at said none existed.

[98_A6_28]

So you had the same experience as me, huh? I talked to 5 or 6 places and none of them said they had a tune/mapping for the 7sp A6 and most didn't even think it was possible to do it. A couple places said it wasn't possible b/c there was NO demand b/c the A6 avant is a "family car". Oddly enough though, they do work on N54/N55's in BMW 535 wagons, which you would think would also be a "family car" as well.

So is the 3.0T from the A6 capable of the same output as those in the Q5/S4's and does anyone know if the Q7 3.0T tune might be compatible with the A6? I think I saw that some of the early year Q7's had a 7sp transmission.

[DC Dawg]

I applied and didn't get accepted yet lol.

Prepare for a lot of Alltrack and Volvo love

[DC Dawg]

There's a trans tune for the C6? Everywhere I looked at said none existed.

JHM has one but it’s an in person only as far as I know

[DC Dawg]

Has anyone driven one of these and an SQ5 and if so, how did they compare? Has anyone tuned one of these and is it as tuneable as the other 3.0T's in the Q5/SQ5/Q7/S4 etc? From what I've heard, the A6 has a 6 or 7sp transmission and the others have an 8sp which makes the standard tuning packages not work with the A6 though I've heard mixed reports on this.

I'm looking at an SQ5/Q5 but I originally really wanted a A6 wagon but a number of people said these were "dogs" compared to even the standard tuned Q5 3.0T. So, I'm not sure what to believe and what the potential are for a tuned A6. I just wish there were newer models than 2011!

Whoever told you they were dogs is a complete idiot. Despite the differences it is still the same motor and a simple tune makes all the difference in the world.

SQ5s are cool cars but avants are much cooler.

[eswift]

Whoever told you they were dogs is a complete idiot. Despite the differences it is still the same motor and a simple tune makes all the difference in the world.

SQ5s are cool cars but avants are much cooler.

I've pretty much given up on the A6 unless a unicorn pops up in my backyard. I'm looking at an SQ and throw it on coilovers and tune that bitch. They look badass on coils.

[DC Dawg]

I've pretty much given up on the A6 unless a unicorn pops up in my backyard. I'm looking at an SQ and throw it on coilovers and tune that bitch. They look badass on coils.

Great looking cars. You get better tech as well and more mod support. Unless you are a wagon junkie like me, it’s probably a better move.

[eswift]

Great looking cars. You get better tech as well and more mod support. Unless you are a wagon junkie like me, it’s probably a better move.

The ONE time it pays to be in Canada... we can import vehicles that are only 15 years old from overseas. Come 2023 the B8 (2008) S4 Avant will have "come of age" and I WILL be importing one (6mt) as soon as I can :)

[jbain2]

The A6 has a more roomy interior. The SQ5 is still based on the A4 platform. So for me with 2 growing boys it was an easy choice. Also because I’m a wagon junkie as well.

True the demand for modding the C6.5 isn’t the same as the SQ which has limited the TCU tuning. Only 2 options currently and both require in person service. I actually don’t think the 6hp19 in these cars is that bad. Sport mode changes the shift points and I have paddle shifters for manual mode which I think works pretty well.

You can get remote tuning for engine software however. Mine is through EPL.


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[valet]

Remote tune for the a6 should be available soon. Covid has really fucked things up with the pipeline but the tcu tune I'm using should be able to be remotely tuned with the jhm dongle. I haven't pressed for it yet because I'm waiting for their ecu tune and downpipes to be finished