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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe View Post
    I have never said the pump can’t supply, I said the supply can’t keep up with the pump. The 3.2 has the same capacity as the 3.0T.’ 6.2L. With a redline of 6500-7200rpm trans dependant, now that pump with the new new build is going to be running at 8000 rpm. The pump is going on to pumping 11.11% more oil at 8000RPM. Just because you add a bigger pump doesn’t mean you can add more oil to the same resivior because if the crank is splashing in the oil it will start to airate and lead to lack of lubrication due to air bubbles in the oil and also cause drag. I m just giving advice. He said he was not a mechanic, I am a dealer trained diesel mechanic, it does not mean i know every thing, but I think I have an idea what I m talking about. Again his engine his money. Just giving insight
    The main reason I'm swapping 3.2FSI Oil pump is, Better pressure at low and mid rpms range, we talking about 3.5 bar by 2k rpms on 3.2FSI vs 1-2bar+ at 1k-4krpms 3.0TFSI. Then the problem would be high rev of my engine 8k+ Stock 3.0TFSI variable pump doesn't looks safe for those rpms this is just my thoughts. If you work for audi could you please explain how 3.2FSI engine flow oil true the block and how oil pressure controlled ? Seems like only two check valve and oil return back to pump also over pressure relive valve in the pump 11 bar. I can't find more information about
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkuRiSh View Post
    The main reason I'm swapping 3.2FSI Oil pump is, Better pressure at low and mid rpms range, we talking about 3.5 bar by 2k rpms on 3.2FSI vs 1-2bar+ at 1k-4krpms 3.0TFSI. Then the problem would be high rev of my engine 8k+ Stock 3.0TFSI variable pump doesn't looks safe for those rpms this is just my thoughts. If you work for audi could you please explain how 3.2FSI engine flow oil true the block and how oil pressure controlled ? Seems like only two check valve and oil return back to pump also over pressure relive valve in the pump 11 bar. I can't find more information about
    I do not work for Audi, I work for Volvo Trucks. So I cannot give you an example, but im sure there is a flow diagram somewhere. From what you are saying sounds like the pump will have no problem supplying the oil and pressure, my concern is I think your "supply" oil pan might not hold enough oil when you start getting onto the throttle and have that oil flowing through out the engine, it will not be returning quick enough to keep the pump supplied and the pump will start sucking air. I have the audi workshop manuals and I will look through them, but I only have it for our engines not the 3.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Joe View Post
    I do not work for Audi, I work for Volvo Trucks. So I cannot give you an example, but im sure there is a flow diagram somewhere. From what you are saying sounds like the pump will have no problem supplying the oil and pressure, my concern is I think your "supply" oil pan might not hold enough oil when you start getting onto the throttle and have that oil flowing through out the engine, it will not be returning quick enough to keep the pump supplied and the pump will start sucking air. I have the audi workshop manuals and I will look through them, but I only have it for our engines not the 3.2

    3.2 and 3.0 is should be the same oil value and capacity! I'll this time I was talking about oil pressure but value of the flow is very important too. Let's think logically, same block ! same oil channels , just a different style of the pump..... Audi engineers did variable oil pump to make engine more efficient and they save some mpg due low pressure true 1k-5k rpms so this is the main reason why they did variable oil pump. Cut oil pressure to save gas so stupid! I just not getting how pressure is controlled in 3.2 Engine, there is no pressure control in then pump except over pressure relive valve! By pictures I posted, oil pressure control by two check valves on then top, same as I posted in video at FB grope. btw I opened my group called " Boosted world " I will post ill my data and progress there as well video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkuRiSh View Post
    3.2 and 3.0 is should be the same oil value and capacity! I'll this time I was talking about oil pressure but value of the flow is very important too. Let's think logically, same block ! same oil channels , just a different style of the pump..... Audi engineers did variable oil pump to make engine more efficient and they save some mpg due low pressure true 1k-5k rpms so this is the main reason why they did variable oil pump. Cut oil pressure to save gas so stupid! I just not getting how pressure is controlled in 3.2 Engine, there is no pressure control in then pump except over pressure relive valve! By pictures I posted, oil pressure control by two check valves on then top, same as I posted in video at FB grope. btw I opened my grope called " Boosted world " I will post ill my data and progress there as well video.
    where's your group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by friskuh View Post
    where's your group?

    (BOSTED WORLD) on FB , I will post all my data and video by the time , this way much easy for me to share with pictures and video. YouTube upload and then post on AZ takes lots of time FB much easy and instagramm ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkuRiSh View Post
    (BOSTED WORLD) on FB , I will post all my data and video by the time , this way much easy for me to share with pictures and video. YouTube upload and then post on AZ takes lots of time FB much easy and instagramm ..
    can't find it all i see is boosted e36 world & some other stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by UkuRiSh View Post
    3.2 and 3.0 is should be the same oil value and capacity! I'll this time I was talking about oil pressure but value of the flow is very important too. Let's think logically, same block ! same oil channels , just a different style of the pump..... Audi engineers did variable oil pump to make engine more efficient and they save some mpg due low pressure true 1k-5k rpms so this is the main reason why they did variable oil pump. Cut oil pressure to save gas so stupid! I just not getting how pressure is controlled in 3.2 Engine, there is no pressure control in then pump except over pressure relive valve! By pictures I posted, oil pressure control by two check valves on then top, same as I posted in video at FB grope. btw I opened my group called " Boosted world " I will post ill my data and progress there as well video.
    Have you considered a dry sump? I believe it would solve any oil pressure and capacity issues even if you spin the engine higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbw View Post
    Have you considered a dry sump? I believe it would solve any oil pressure and capacity issues even if you spin the engine higher.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWD2quattro View Post
    Bummer, I live in the dark ages, no FB for me!! Guess I'll be missing on the build goodies.
    Don't worry , I still willing to post updates time to time but on FB and Instagram much easy to upload video etc..

    Quote Originally Posted by sbw View Post
    Have you considered a dry sump? I believe it would solve any oil pressure and capacity issues even if you spin the engine higher.
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    I know about Dry pump but it's not in my budget, If I kept my car just for racing then easy 100% would do custom Dry setup but for my needs as every day car I'm use 3.2FSI Pump should be OK . Thanks for ideas guys..... Current status of the build on hold, waiting for clutch kit. Anybody for turbo kit it's a good time to make one while engine is out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkuRiSh View Post
    Don't worry , I still willing to post updates time to time but on FB and Instagram much easy to upload video etc..





    I know about Dry pump but it's not in my budget, If I kept my car just for racing then easy 100% would do custom Dry setup but for my needs as every day car I'm use 3.2FSI Pump should be OK . Thanks for ideas guys..... Current status of the build on hold, waiting for clutch kit. Anybody for turbo kit it's a good time to make one while engine is out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitee View Post
    How much for kit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by friskuh View Post
    can't find it all i see is boosted e36 world & some other stuff
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    Clutch pack is out ! This is Part 3 Video

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    I love how informative your build videos are man. If I were you I would weld that axle ring, the axles look beefy, if that's welded I don't think they will crack or snap. Especially since your torque is linear & builds up; on S6/S7's they make so much torque from low rpm as well as 4600+ lbs weight shifting on launch it's a no brainer they snap axles.

    Your build is amazing, keep it up brother. Soon there's going to be a lot of turbo builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friskuh View Post
    I love how informative your build videos are man. If I were you I would weld that axle ring, the axles look beefy, if that's welded I don't think they will crack or snap. Especially since your torque is linear & builds up; on S6/S7's they make so much torque from low rpm as well as 4600+ lbs weight shifting on launch it's a no brainer they snap axles.

    Your build is amazing, keep it up brother. Soon there's going to be a lot of turbo builds.

    Thank you. S6/S7 I think have small difference vs our S-Tronic, gear ration and clutches ! It's just my guess... We can confirm only after someone open clutch pack in S6/S7
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    Swapping my Dual Mass Flywheel from 2016 Audi S6

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    Motor is IN and getting ready for first start very soon

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    Nice Ukurish, I'm sure all your hard work will pay off. Maybe reach out to Iroz and see if Syvecs ECU is adaptable to our cars.
    I'd dump my stock ECU in a heart beat, can't wait to see this btch roll .
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWD2quattro View Post
    Nice Ukurish, I'm sure all your hard work will pay off. Maybe reach out to Iroz and see if Syvecs ECU is adaptable to our cars.
    I'd dump my stock ECU in a heart beat, can't wait to see this btch roll .
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    First cold start of forged motor ! 3.2FSI oil pump works fine. I'm getting 52 psi / 3.5 bar by 1200rpms.... Waiting for piping to complete my turbo charge piping Air to Water Intercooler. Stay tuned guys !

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