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    Active Member Two Rings
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    Blackstone Oil Report Findings -

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    A bit of context..
    I've been running into the limp mode off idle/drivetrain malfunction warning issue since I bought the car, 4 months back. Only happens whenever I get stuck in heavy/stop & go traffic (anything over 1 hour & half). Audi says it is cosmetic and they're working on a fix (Still). This has been an known issue for a while now.
    I'm super anal and wanted to make sure everything is in order before I decide to get my car tuned, so went ahead & got my oil analysis done. Here is a copy of my report (done at 3100 miles).
    Blackstone said they didn't find any diluted fuel () but the extra metal findings (this is expected according to Blackstone) got me a bit nervous (Did I mention I'm super anal?). Anyone with expertise on this care to comment? Are the extra metal amounts found indeed expected/normal for our cars? Thx.
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    Active Member Two Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5bngr View Post
    A bit of context..
    I've been running into the limp mode off idle/drivetrain malfunction warning issue since I bought the car, 4 months back. Only happens whenever I get stuck in heavy/stop & go traffic (anything over 1 hour & half). Audi says it is cosmetic and they're working on a fix (Still). This has been an known issue for a while now.
    I'm super anal and wanted to make sure everything is in order before I decide to get my car tuned, so went ahead & got my oil analysis done. Here is a copy of my report (done at 3100 miles).
    Blackstone said they didn't find any diluted fuel () but the extra metal findings (this is expected according to Blackstone) got me a bit nervous (Did I mention I'm super anal?). Anyone with expertise on this care to comment? Are the extra metal amounts found indeed expected/normal for our cars? Thx.
    Motors tend to wear heavier during the initial breakin. I assume this is the original factory fill oil?

    In most cases, changing oil after the first 1k miles is recommended. I was surprised to see Audi doesn't recommend changing the oil until the 10k mark.

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    From my understanding itís common earlier in the carís life (why I did my oil change at 3k miles - did I mention Iím also anal?). Was this the original oil from the factory? If so Iíd expect at least this much. Of course Iím no expert on the topic but Iíve always been told the first oil change is the most important because of the metal/Silicon getting into the oil easier.


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    Blackstone Oil Report Findings -

    Damn if you guys are anal then I'm an elephant anus. I did at 1500 miles then 5k and then 7.5k. after that every 6 months or 10k.


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    I've run blackstone on all of my vehicles. You won't really get a feeling for the report until a pattern forms. When I built my motor I changed the oil at 500 miles then 1000 and finally 3000. Each time the contaminates were reduced. That was a good sign. If they had gone the other direction I would know bad things were happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske View Post
    I've run blackstone on all of my vehicles. You won't really get a feeling for the report until a pattern forms. When I built my motor I changed the oil at 500 miles then 1000 and finally 3000. Each time the contaminates were reduced. That was a good sign. If they had gone the other direction I would know bad things were happening.
    This makes sense. I plan to do my next oil change/oil report analysis at 6k. Hopefully it'll trend in the right direction. And yes, this was the original oil from the factory, changed @3.1k miles.

    Thanks for the replies guys. Good to know I'm not alone in the Anal department

    Here is my to do list before even considering getting a tune

    1 - first oil change/report analysis - done.
    2 - Get car dynoed to make sure is within stock specs & establish a good baseline - Ready for it. Can anyone recommend a good shop in the NY Tri-State area? ideally, I would also use them for future mod installs.
    3 - Second oil change report analysis @6k - Fingers crossed for trending in the right direction
    4 - Third oil change/report analysis @9k. Just to verify trending.
    5 - Wait (Maybe) for Audi to fix the damn Limp mode off idle/Drive Train malfunction warning issue. Audi, how long will this take for Christ sake!?

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    Active Member Two Rings
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    My RS3 has 3,000 kms on it now and I got the Drive Train Malfunction warning at about 800 kms. They told me to put better fuel in, they thought it was the winter gas. I switched from 91 Shell to 94 Sunoco and never had the problem again? Call it coincident? Not sure .. just sharing my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5bngr View Post
    2 - Get car dynoed to make sure is within stock specs & establish a good baseline - Ready for it. Can anyone recommend a good shop in the NY Tri-State area? ideally, I would also use them for future mod installs?
    Jimmy @ The Shop in Southern CT. He just moved further up (Bridgeport), but his new facility is legit. His wife has Stage 2 TTRS.

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    Given that within 2 years half of owners sell their car chasing the next shiny thing, I think oil analysis is academic in the modern car world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheContrarian View Post
    Given that within 2 years half of owners sell their car chasing the next shiny thing, I think oil analysis is academic in the modern car world.
    I agree with you. I, however keep my cars on average, 4-5 years. As such, I want to try, as much as possible, to try and mitigate any issues with the car if I decide to get it tuned. Call it piece of mind, knowing you're starting with a clean, perfect running car.

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    I did a UOA at 4k. Blackstone basically said the same thing. Metals are elevated since the engine is still breaking in.
    I hardly had any fuel dilution and low TBN seems to be typical for 504.00/507.00 oils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tegxsi View Post
    I did a UOA at 4k. Blackstone basically said the same thing. Metals are elevated since the engine is still breaking in.
    I hardly had any fuel dilution and low TBN seems to be typical for 504.00/507.00 oils.
    they stay in the 2.5 - 3 range for very long time, definitely not linear

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5bngr View Post
    A bit of context..
    ...
    I'm super anal and wanted to make sure everything is in order before I decide to get my car tuned, so went ahead & got my oil analysis done. Here is a copy of my report (done at 3100 miles).
    ...
    Are you a fellow former e92 m3 owner? Those forums were full of "Here's my blackstone report. Is my engine about to explode?" threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tax Lit View Post
    Are you a fellow former e92 m3 owner? Those forums were full of "Here's my blackstone report. Is my engine about to explode?" threads.
    I am not. I did provide some context as to why I did the oil analysis. Limp mode off idle issue/drive train malfunction warning, as well as making sure the engine was being broken in properly before getting a tune. See my initial post..
    There have been some (rare) instances where fuel was getting mixed/diluted into the engine oil. Look up Limp mode off idle issue/drive train malfunction warning..Better safe than sorry.



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