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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Need to replace clockspring, questions...

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    I need to replace my clockspring as I am getting the N95 airbag code and I can actually hear the clockspring 'click' when at full lock...so I'm pretty sure it got broken somehow.

    Anyway, my question is this...I recently completed a 6 speed swap on my car and no longer have a tiptronic steering wheel. Do I need to replace the clockspring with the same TIP version or because it is now a 6 speed can I replace it with the manual (non-ESP) version? Reason I ask is because it appears as though the TIP clockspring is DOUBLE the price of the manual version.

    TIA
    Current - 2000 Audi S4 - Porsche Grau Schwarz 6sp swap, BWK04's, RS4 IC's, RS4 airbox/MAF, 440cc injectors, Stuklr Stage 3 tune, SuperSprint exhaust, Piggy pipes
    Gone - 2002 Audi Allroad - Atlas Grey 6sp swap, BWK04's, RS4 IC's, RS4 airbox/MAF, EV14 52lb injectors, custom (Daz - RIP) tune, 17Z front BBK, 034 300mm rear BBK

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    Veteran Member Four Rings m_haiser's Avatar
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    im sure someone will correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure the reason for the price difference is going to be the provision for the tip shifter buttons.
    you SHOULD as far as I know be just fine with a 6spd clock spring as long as they are physically the same.
    It's to the point where all the problems just run together in a spider web of disappointment and mush.
    -CELison

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    Veteran Member Four Rings ReggieNoble's Avatar
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    My guess would be the price difference is for esp vs non-esp.

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Price difference - which is actually more than TRIPLE - appears to be only TIP ($473) vs manual ($131)...according to ECS, anyway.

    Surprised this hasn't come up before with all of the 6 speed swaps that have happened. Appears I may need to be the guinea pig...
    Current - 2000 Audi S4 - Porsche Grau Schwarz 6sp swap, BWK04's, RS4 IC's, RS4 airbox/MAF, 440cc injectors, Stuklr Stage 3 tune, SuperSprint exhaust, Piggy pipes
    Gone - 2002 Audi Allroad - Atlas Grey 6sp swap, BWK04's, RS4 IC's, RS4 airbox/MAF, EV14 52lb injectors, custom (Daz - RIP) tune, 17Z front BBK, 034 300mm rear BBK

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    Veteran Member Four Rings ReggieNoble's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smarty39 View Post
    Price difference - which is actually more than TRIPLE - appears to be only TIP ($473) vs manual ($131)...according to ECS, anyway.

    Surprised this hasn't come up before with all of the 6 speed swaps that have happened. Appears I may need to be the guinea pig...
    When I looked it up all the cheap manual ones where non-esp. Did not check ECS though

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    I grabbed an a6 clock spring, bolted right in, 01e, reprogrammed for s4 via vag. Worked great. $3 from junkyard

    Im an 01.5, has esp and all that shit.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings wpfahl's Avatar
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    Clock springs are fairly cheep on eBay


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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn1989 View Post
    I grabbed an a6 clock spring, bolted right in, 01e, reprogrammed for s4 via vag. Worked great. $3 from junkyard

    Im an 01.5, has esp and all that shit.
    Sorry for the revival, but what all was required to install a different clock spring in your car?

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumbler510 View Post
    Sorry for the revival, but what all was required to install a different clock spring in your car?
    Physically: a steering wheel puller and torqx bits.
    Because its Audi: Vcds so you can calibrate it. Haven't personally done it but I believe it's one of the adaptations under the steering block

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRussian View Post
    Physically: a steering wheel puller and torqx bits.
    Because its Audi: Vcds so you can calibrate it. Haven't personally done it but I believe it's one of the adaptations under the steering block

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    Oh yeah, getting it physically off wasn't an issue at all. I am wondering how to go about getting the car to play nice with the new unit once it's installed.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumbler510 View Post
    Oh yeah, getting it physically off wasn't an issue at all. I am wondering how to go about getting the car to play nice with the new unit once it's installed.
    you do this: https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...spring-Install

    if you did a 01e swap I'm sure you need to recode the abs, ecu, and cluster (which should already be done anyways) before you do it.

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