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    Veteran Member Four Rings AJacksA4's Avatar
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    Is the RS4 the only V8 Manual AWD Sedan? Ever?

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    I was talking with a friend and neither of us could think of any car that checks off the same boxes. V8. Manual. AWD. Sedan.

    Can anyone think of anything? Bragging rights will be awarded

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    Nope, the B6 and B7 S4 came before it.
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    Is the RS4 the only V8 Manual AWD Sedan? Ever?

    Chrysler 300, Infiniti Q70, Bentley flying spur, Volkswagen phaeton, Volvo S80 - google shall reveal all!

    Edit: Manual... missed that bit. I shall take this as a fail ;) There may be a Cadillac in there. Holden/HSV made a few AWD V8 manual cars but funnily only seem to be in wagon, Ute and coupe form - not sedan.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AJacksA4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by superswiss View Post
    Nope, the B6 and B7 S4 came before it.
    Ok yeah those too, sorta forgot about those since they're so similar. Might we add that also revs past 8k

    Half points for you

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AJacksA4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexB7RS4 View Post
    Chrysler 300, Infiniti Q70, Bentley flying spur, Volkswagen phaeton, Volvo S80 - google shall reveal all!

    Edit: Manual... missed that bit. I shall take this as a fail ;) There may be a Cadillac in there. Holden/HSV made a few AWD V8 manual cars but funnily only seem to be in wagon, Ute and coupe form - not sedan.

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    Right! The Holdens came up, but there doesn't seem to be a sedan like you said. The older CTS-V's were all rwd, not sure about the new ones, and they may have taken the manual away.

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    Established Member Two Rings ssc_rs4's Avatar
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    BMW E39 M5 was also a V8 and manual only.... and also had 4 doors


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    Quote Originally Posted by ssc_rs4 View Post
    BMW E39 M5 was also a V8 and manual only.... and also had 4 doors
    Missing the AWD aspect.

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    Established Member Two Rings ssc_rs4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Mono View Post
    Missing the AWD aspect.
    Right. Missed that. Thanks!


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    Established Member Two Rings maybachgt's Avatar
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    The RS4 is and will likely stay the only manual, AWD, N/A, V8, widebody, 4 door, 8k RPM car every offered.

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    Ok, so all this talk of me waffling on selling my car. Well, this solidifies it. Never gonna be for sale!
    Keyboard is on its way out. Please ignore any grammatical errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAudi Driver View Post
    Ok, so all this talk of me waffling on selling my car. Well, this solidifies it. Never gonna be for sale!
    That was my exact reaction, even before I got to your post!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Fourplay's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by maybachgt View Post
    The RS4 is and will likely stay the only manual, AWD, N/A, V8, widebody, 4 door, 8k RPM car every offered.
    Add enough modifiers and any car becomes rare and exclusive.
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    Didn't those Cadillac CTS-V's come with an optioned AWD? Cant remember if it was for the wagon or sedan....

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Chuuey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kambesama View Post
    Didn't those Cadillac CTS-V's come with an optioned AWD? Cant remember if it was for the wagon or sedan....
    They did not, though I wish they did. Especially those wagons!

    To answer your question OP... yes. I believe it is the only one in the US with the exception of other Audis. Rare bird and best combo in relative luxury that you can get, imo.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ginch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuuey View Post
    They did not, though I wish they did. Especially those wagons!

    To answer your question OP... yes. I believe it is the only one in the US with the exception of other Audis. Rare bird and best combo in relative luxury that you can get, imo.
    I can't think of any car in the world let alone in the US that is configured like our RS4's (and B6-B7 S4's).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuuey View Post
    They did not, though I wish they did. Especially those wagons!
    I also have wagonlust, but I traded my RS4 for a buddy's CTS-V wagon a few years ago and although the car was a beast, I wasn't impressed with the wagon ... the 'trunk' with the back seats up looked like you could get a couple tennis rackets and a sack of potato's in it, maybe. Maybe the newer CTS-V's are better, but do they offer a wagon option with the latest gen?

    Also, great thread on the question posed by the OP!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Chuuey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag4 View Post
    I also have wagonlust, but I traded my RS4 for a buddy's CTS-V wagon a few years ago and although the car was a beast, I wasn't impressed with the wagon ... the 'trunk' with the back seats up looked like you could get a couple tennis rackets and a sack of potato's in it, maybe. Maybe the newer CTS-V's are better, but do they offer a wagon option with the latest gen?

    Also, great thread on the question posed by the OP!
    Yeah but it'll rip your face off and they look the business. The practicality argument is however, valid.

    Oh, and no ctsv new-gen wagon.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Blackstallion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag4 View Post
    I also have wagonlust, but I traded my RS4 for a buddy's CTS-V wagon a few years ago and although the car was a beast, I wasn't impressed with the wagon ... the 'trunk' with the back seats up looked like you could get a couple tennis rackets and a sack of potato's in it, maybe. Maybe the newer CTS-V's are better, but do they offer a wagon option with the latest gen?

    Also, great thread on the question posed by the OP!
    Yeah I'm pretty sure the E63 wagon is getting awfully lonely in its class... albeit im a huge fan

    AWD winning!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings AJacksA4's Avatar
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    Haha I come back from work and see all these people thinking!

    It really shows how special our cars are, like you guys said, there really isn't anything else like them. We were STUMPED trying to think of a similar setup in another car.

    We're all driving unicorns

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Fourplay's Avatar
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    Audi V8 (4C) sold from 1988 to 1994 had a 3.6L or 4.2L V8 with a 5 or 6 speed manual.

    D2 S8 was available with a 335hp to 360hp 4.2L V8 and manual.

    C4 S6 Plus had a 6MT and 4.2 V8.

    C5 S6 also had a 6MT and a 4.2 V8.

    Also the previously mentioned B6/7 S4.

    Audi had a long history of manual transmission, AWD, V8 sedans. The B7 RS4 was the last of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJacksA4 View Post
    I was talking with a friend and neither of us could think of any car that checks off the same boxes. V8. Manual. AWD. Sedan.

    Can anyone think of anything? Bragging rights will be awarded
    The B7 S4 also checks those boxes, but yes, it's a rare configuration and one we'll likely never see again.

    I've done this exercise before when looking for my "fun" car, but relaxed the "AWD" requirement. Still a very limited number of V8 manual sedans out there. Off the top of my head: E90 M3, B7 RS4, B7 S4, E39 M5, 1st and 2nd gen CTS-V, Pontiac G8 GXP, Chevy SS.

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    i think the combination of AWD, v8 and manual is a tough combo to come across...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpop View Post
    The B7 S4 also checks those boxes, but yes, it's a rare configuration and one we'll likely never see again.

    I've done this exercise before when looking for my "fun" car, but relaxed the "AWD" requirement. Still a very limited number of V8 manual sedans out there. Off the top of my head: E90 M3, B7 RS4, B7 S4, E39 M5, 1st and 2nd gen CTS-V, Pontiac G8 GXP, Chevy SS.
    Great list of fun cars and probably as close as you could get to B7 RS4, I'd add e60 M5 was offered in 6mt, not a V8 but even better V10 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Wrong View Post
    Great list of fun cars and probably as close as you could get to B7 RS4, I'd add e60 M5 was offered in 6mt, not a V8 but even better V10 lol
    e60 was my favorite model year...v10 sounded super sweet too!
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    Established Member Two Rings MTN's Avatar
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    I believe that the first gen Porsche Cayenne GTS came with a 405hp v8 / 6 speed manual / AWD configuration.

    Here's an ad for one https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...nual-for-sale/
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    Established Member Two Rings MTN's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourplay View Post
    Audi V8 (4C) sold from 1988 to 1994 had a 3.6L or 4.2L V8 with a 5 or 6 speed manual.

    D2 S8 was available with a 335hp to 360hp 4.2L V8 and manual.

    C4 S6 Plus had a 6MT and 4.2 V8.

    C5 S6 also had a 6MT and a 4.2 V8.

    Also the previously mentioned B6/7 S4.

    Audi had a long history of manual transmission, AWD, V8 sedans. The B7 RS4 was the last of these.
    From the list, I think only the B6/B7 S4 and RS4 are available in the U.S. market with a manual transmission option
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