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  1. #1
    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Cost to assemble head to built block

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    So buddy of mine was quoted 1200 In labor to install 2.8 heads on to the Block. Install baskets , Bolt it down time the engine , do cam tensioners .

    And an additional 1200 in parts for it

    Are these normal numbers ? Or do they seem on the high side .

    Thanks guys

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    Veteran Member Four Rings MacDaddy's Avatar
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    Sounds like full retail++

    But your description is a little light on details, could you give a further break down?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Is the engine in the car?

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    Built motor is out of the car ,and the 2.8 heads need to go soon as they come back from the machine shop ,

    So to only put the heads onto the motor , tighten everything up, do all the gaskets needed , time the engine

    1200 in labor, and 1190 in parts .

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    Sounds high but way more details needed. What parts are being replaced? For fully dressing(turbos etc) and timing, RMS, FMS, oil pans, the price gets closer to reasonable.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Bolting down a set of heads takes about 15 minutes with the motor on a stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CELison View Post
    Bolting down a set of heads takes about 15 minutes with the motor on a stand.
    Sure. Sort of. If the sealing surfaces, head gaskets, and valves aren't being checked. There is more to the story obviously. Tensioners and timing are mentioned in the OP. If that's all that's being done then the quote is way high. Looks closer to shop time for doing the job in the car, which is totally different.

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    Well assembling my heads and bottom end which includes pretty much everything cost me $1500 in labor. I installed my heads and cams then did all the timing myself. That is a very high labor cost. That would take me six hours if I was riding the struggle bus while doing it haha.

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    As stated previously, engine block is built and ready to go only thing now that has to b done now is bolt on the heads And use the assorted gaskets seals for the intake manifold and things connected to it . So 1200 in labor and 1200 in parts for the following

    Valve cover gaskets
    Cam plugs
    Cam chain tensioner
    Cam tensioners gaskets w half moon seals
    Head bolts
    Crank shaft seal with flange
    Rear main flange gasket
    Cam shaft seal
    Water pipe o ring
    Heater pipe o ring
    Valley pan gasket throttle body gasket
    Oil cooler gasket
    Oil pump
    Oil pump drive chain
    Exhaust gasket manifold
    Intake manifold gasket
    Brass 90 deg elbow to delete aux pump
    Head gasket
    Turbo gasket and crush washer
    Front crank shaft seal gasket
    Down pipe flange gasket
    Lower oil pan gasket
    Crank main bolt
    Crank pulley bolt

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    Thoughts

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    Veteran Member Four Rings CELison's Avatar
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    Still seems high. All of those parts you listed go on very quick and easy with the motor out.
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    $1200 for those parts, they must be all Genuine Audi parts? Going aftermarket (selectively) you can easily be $400 or less on all of that without sacrificing longevity or reliability.
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    If its factory CCT, then it's reasonable for parts, if not cheap.

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Labor is on the high side though no? Especially with the motor out

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    So are all those parts needing to be installed too as part of the 1200? A lot of that has nothing to do with the heads and should have already been done if the bottom end is together. IF they're installing all of those parts, then 1200 makes sense. If you just need some heads bolted down with new CCT and some gaskets, throw me 100 bucks and bring it by.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bordom View Post
    If its factory CCT, then it's reasonable for parts, if not cheap.
    Good catch, it's a long list and I missed that.
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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Which of the parts have nothing to do, if the bottom end /Block is assembled ??

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    Judging on the new parts list it sounds to me like only the internals of block are done (crank, pistons and rods are in and that's it) and nothing else? Then there is tons of things to do still on this engine and 1200 is more than reasonable. To assemble the whole engine properly it will take some quality time. Probably couple of days of meticulous work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unvmy996 View Post
    Which of the parts have nothing to do, if the bottom end /Block is assembled ??
    Crank shaft seal with flange
    Rear main flange gasket
    Valley pan gasket throttle body gasket
    Oil cooler gasket
    Oil pump
    Oil pump drive chain
    Exhaust gasket manifold
    Intake manifold gasket
    Brass 90 deg elbow to delete aux pump
    Turbo gasket and crush washer
    Front crank shaft seal gasket
    Down pipe flange gasket
    Lower oil pan gasket
    Crank main bolt
    Crank pulley bolt

    If they are installing all those parts, 1200 is plenty fair. You made it sound like it was 1200 to slap heads on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unvmy996 View Post
    Which of the parts have nothing to do, if the bottom end /Block is assembled ??
    Most of the list.


    I also don't think that the cost was outrageously overpriced.
    There is also other variables in the person /shop doing the install;
    Tri state shop labor can be 85 for indy shops all the way up to 180 for the stealership
    Is it a reputable shop or just a buddy doing the work?

    I know a certain and well known shop in Central NJ that says that their labor rate is 90/hr. Then they tag on a 'service bay fee' on top of the hourly labor cost when the work is complete and they hand you the invoice. Pretty slick eh?

    I guess the answer is, it depends.



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