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    Did you try pulling on each wire? Youíve pulled one end off of the accordion but there may be a break lower in the loom at the bottom end.
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    I mean, you don't even *have* to fix any of this. You can just fake out the necessary signals so the CLM thinks the key is turning. Some well-timed MacGuyver paperclip back-probe action and you'll have a remote programmed in no time flat.

    Not being sarcastic at all. Jump the microswitch wires at the lock pump (like a boss) and you're golden.

    If you really wanted to, you could hardwire a 3-position momentary ON-OFF-ON toggle switch so programming additional fobs and such is easier next time. It's 3 wires. Or, for epic bonus points, you could wire in a Super NES controller and use those buttons. You'd win, like, 5 internets.
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    Did you try googling it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockbeau25 View Post
    Did you try googling it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybersombosis View Post
    Did you try pulling on each wire? Youíve pulled one end off of the accordion but there may be a break lower in the loom at the bottom end.
    Not really, only focused on the two with the damaged insulation.

    Quote Originally Posted by walky_talky20 View Post
    I mean, you don't even *have* to fix any of this. You can just fake out the necessary signals so the CLM thinks the key is turning. Some well-timed MacGuyver paperclip back-probe action and you'll have a remote programmed in no time flat.

    Not being sarcastic at all. Jump the microswitch wires at the lock pump (like a boss) and you're golden.

    If you really wanted to, you could hardwire a 3-position momentary ON-OFF-ON toggle switch so programming additional fobs and such is easier next time. It's 3 wires. Or, for epic bonus points, you could wire in a Super NES controller and use those buttons. You'd win, like, 5 internets.
    I did consider this, since it's just a microswitch closing that the CLM is looking for, like you said. I didn't even think of jumping the wires AT the pump. I was thinking of jumping the wires for the switch at the door latch, but that's SO much more work to disassemble and get to. lol.

    I have read on teh internets, that someone with a bad door lock switch successfully programmed their key using the trunk lock cylinder instead. Although, that's not an option for me since that is seized up... so jumping wires it is.

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    since that is seized up
    disassemble that and fix it, a couple screws and 10mm bolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RENOxDECEPTION View Post
    disassemble that and fix it, a couple screws and 10mm bolts.
    I already tried. lol. I got it to at least push in so I can open the trunk, but the internals of the lock are seized up like crazy, no saving it.

    Pretty much followed this and wasn't able to get the lock cylinder itself apart. I can't even get the key in the cylinder more than 1cm or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walky_talky20 View Post
    I mean, you don't even *have* to fix any of this. You can just fake out the necessary signals so the CLM thinks the key is turning. Some well-timed MacGuyver paperclip back-probe action and you'll have a remote programmed in no time flat.

    Not being sarcastic at all. Jump the microswitch wires at the lock pump (like a boss) and you're golden.

    If you really wanted to, you could hardwire a 3-position momentary ON-OFF-ON toggle switch so programming additional fobs and such is easier next time. It's 3 wires. Or, for epic bonus points, you could wire in a Super NES controller and use those buttons. You'd win, like, 5 internets.
    Finally got around to attempting the MacGuyver paper-clip back probe technique and the results left me scratching my head.

    Had my laptop reading MB 001 and 002 for the CLM. Was mostly looking at field for "rotary switch position" to verify that I was jumping the correct wires to ground for the switch. Referring to the schematics posted earlier, A10 (RED/BRN) and C9 (GRY/WHT) on the CLM are the wires for the door lock microswitch. I used one of the mounting studs for the taillight as a convenient ground for the jumper.

    I was able to get the pump to lock the doors by grounding pin A10. This was also verified by the bit changing in measuring blocks. However, I was unable to get the doors to unlock by grounding C9 or even get the bit to change showing that it was registering the ground. I could lock the doors with the key in the driver door lock but can not unlock (bits show locking signal from switch but not the unlock signal).

    For shits and giggles, I was able to unlock the doors using the trunk lock alarm switch (grounding A5). But when I grounded A6, it didn't do anything nor did the corresponding bit change in MB. Not sure if that's normal operation, but figured I'd mention it. *shrug*

    Now this is where it gets interesting...

    The above was done with my original pump that was flooded and I attempted to clean and dry out as best as I could. So I swapped in the spare junkyard CLM that I had. It was not verified as working but there was no apparent water damage to the board when I popped it open.

    With the spare CLM installed, I was only able to UNLOCK the doors by grounding pin C9. Grounding pin A10 did nothing, and measuring blocks verified this as well. I had the same behavior using the key in the door. Only could unlock doors, but couldn't lock them.

    So based on these findings... I'm thinking the microswitch in the door is fine since it shows the appropriate signals for lock and unlock, but only with a certain CLM installed. So perhaps the spare CLM I have is also damaged? Looks like I need to get a tested, working CLM. Unless someone has a spare that they know for sure is good.
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    Want me to send you a clm I have Anyway? Itís untested lol just pay shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RENOxDECEPTION View Post
    Want me to send you a clm I have Anyway? Itís untested lol just pay shipping.
    I mean, third timeís the charm, right?

    If you wouldnít mind slapping it in one of your B5ís just to test it first that would be great.
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    At this point, knowing what you know, its gotta be the CLM. When mine flooded I just got a junkyard one and swapped it, easy ass fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattr567 View Post
    At this point, knowing what you know, its gotta be the CLM. When mine flooded I just got a junkyard one and swapped it, easy ass fix.
    Yeah, thatís what Iím thinking. But just my luck that the spare I got isnít completely functional, lol.
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    Is that the one I sent ya? Shit, feel bad.

    Send me pics of the circuit board or post up here. That one appeared to never have any previous water damage but Iím starting to wonder if that is the culprit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V70R View Post
    Is that the one I sent ya? Shit, feel bad.

    Send me pics of the circuit board or post up here. That one appeared to never have any previous water damage but Iím starting to wonder if that is the culprit.
    Yeah, it is. No worries though. Itís always a crapshoot with used parts. Iíll snap some pics. I didnít see any water damage either when I opened it up after receiving it.
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    Well, another is on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V70R View Post
    Well, another is on the way.

    Thatís how we roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fR3ZNO View Post
    Finally got around to attempting the MacGuyver paper-clip back probe technique and the results left me scratching my head.

    Had my laptop reading MB 001 and 002 for the CLM. Was mostly looking at field for "rotary switch position" to verify that I was jumping the correct wires to ground for the switch. Referring to the schematics posted earlier, A10 (RED/BRN) and C9 (GRY/WHT) on the CLM are the wires for the door lock microswitch. I used one of the mounting studs for the taillight as a convenient ground for the jumper.

    I was able to get the pump to lock the doors by grounding pin A10. This was also verified by the bit changing in measuring blocks. However, I was unable to get the doors to unlock by grounding C9 or even get the bit to change showing that it was registering the ground. I could lock the doors with the key in the driver door lock but can not unlock (bits show locking signal from switch but not the unlock signal).

    For shits and giggles, I was able to unlock the doors using the trunk lock alarm switch (grounding A5). But when I grounded A6, it didn't do anything nor did the corresponding bit change in MB. Not sure if that's normal operation, but figured I'd mention it. *shrug*

    Now this is where it gets interesting...

    The above was done with my original pump that was flooded and I attempted to clean and dry out as best as I could. So I swapped in the spare junkyard CLM that I had. It was not verified as working but there was no apparent water damage to the board when I popped it open.

    With the spare CLM installed, I was only able to UNLOCK the doors by grounding pin C9. Grounding pin A10 did nothing, and measuring blocks verified this as well. I had the same behavior using the key in the door. Only could unlock doors, but couldn't lock them.

    So based on these findings... I'm thinking the microswitch in the door is fine since it shows the appropriate signals for lock and unlock, but only with a certain CLM installed. So perhaps the spare CLM I have is also damaged? Looks like I need to get a tested, working CLM. Unless someone has a spare that they know for sure is good.
    Nice MacGuyver-ing. And with live datastream readout, even! I award a solid 3.5 Internets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walky_talky20 View Post
    Nice MacGuyver-ing. And with live datastream readout, even! I award a solid 3.5 Internets.
    3.5 Internets award by THE walky himself? Jeez, that's resume worthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Jr. View Post
    Dave is moving up the totem pole?
    Guess so! lol
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    Unable To Clear Central Locking Module Memory

    Just wanted to follow this up with the solution to this issue. Big surprise, the replacement CLM was bad. Reno sent me the board out of one his CLMís and I soldered it in, since the other components werenít damaged by the water. Was able to clear the memory and program my fob, didnít even need to do any MacGyver paper clip maneuvers.

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    When in doubt, doubt unknown parts!

    Like my dealer ordered brand new driver's door latch, which broke within 3 days >. >

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattr567 View Post
    When in doubt, doubt unknown parts!

    Like my dealer ordered brand new driver's door latch, which broke within 3 days >. >

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    ďThis brand new latch canít be broken!Ē *goes insane troubleshooting other parts*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattr567 View Post
    When in doubt, doubt unknown parts!

    Like my dealer ordered brand new driver's door latch, which broke within 3 days >. >

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    Quote Originally Posted by fR3ZNO View Post
    ďThis brand new latch canít be broken!Ē *goes insane troubleshooting other parts*
    Exactly lol.

    The replacement one came in a much newer box too lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattr567 View Post
    Exactly lol.

    The replacement one came in a much newer box too lmao.

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    Lol, what part broke(just curious)? The microswitch?
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    Lol, what part broke(just curious)? The microswitch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fR3ZNO View Post
    Lol, what part broke(just curious)? The microswitch?
    Lol no, much more dramatic. The door stopped opening from the inside, was back to square 1 as that's how my original latch failed

    It completely failed mechanically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattr567 View Post
    Lol no, much more dramatic. The door stopped opening from the inside, was back to square 1 as that's how my original latch failed

    It completely failed mechanically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazius View Post
    smh american made german cars
    Wat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattr567 View Post
    Wat

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    FTFY

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    FTFY
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