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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Hello,

    I have a B8 s4 in Phantom Black, year 2010. It has about 157,000 now.

    So far, it is Unitronic Stage 3 Dual pulley, running the APR Drive pulley+unitronic crank pulley.

    It has Unitronic Stage 2 TCU software, with a new mechatronic unit (Old one died at 140,000 miles)

    Sometimes I like to fly under the radar, so it wears 19" Peelers and Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's for grip.

    Under the car, I have an AWE Track edition exhaust, which I have come to like more and more through ownership. While
    It is loud and drones at above 70, it completely altered the noise of my shifts to the point where you can hear a single explosive sound each shift with no "fart" noise, just a clap synchronized with the shift. This was not the case when the car was stock, I beleive it has to do with the higher level of power and temps.

    I do take the car to track, but only rarely as I dont live near one. For that, it has the Alu Kruez stabilizer, and all of the drivetrain inserts. It does not have sway bars.

    For an intake, I went with the Luft Technik carbon version. It looks great in my opinion, but could be thermally better.

    The car heat soaks, yes, but not until you drive it for a good 30-40 minutes or just stay in the pedal without giving it a rest - which is impossible in the streets of my area.

    That being said, I will eventually go back to the track and will want to get a front mount intercooler. I do not know which brands are the best, but wanted to ask for other opinions. So, what do you think the best cooling option is?

    At "Stage 3" levels, is there anything else I or anyone else should be doing, or any modifications (porting is not within my budget yet) that would help get the most out of the extra software and boost?

    Thank you

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Johnnycash's Avatar
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    new suspension would give good performance over stock, also looks better;) sways are cheap too so might as well do eet.
    2011 QGM w/black optics, EPL stg1, HRE p43sc w/pss, b-12pro-kit, 034 trans mount, cts intake, stoptech drilled/slotted, akebonos all around, vmr 710 w/nokian r2s, stock rotor wheels w michelin as3+, autostyle custom floormats, 3m paint protection on entire front.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings bhvrdr's Avatar
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    Just get a good heat exchanger and youre gold. I like the revo charge cooler. It is bar and plate with very good end tanks that have flow diverters in them and it comes with a reservoir for divorcing. Others from merc, apr, ams are great too

    Mike
    Last edited by bhvrdr; 10-27-2018 at 02:55 PM.

    2018 Audi S5
    12.72 @ 108.85mph - 93 octane - +1565DA - Bone Stock
    11.68 @ 117mph - e30 octane - (-945DA) - jb4 only

    2013 Audi S5 DSG - Unitronic ECU & 034 TCU, 3.17pr
    11.07 at 123.62mph - draggy - 93 octane - (-407ft DA)
    Gone-
    '10 A4 Avant - '13 S5 #1 -- '16 A6 -- '15 S4 -- '09 A4 -- '04 S4 -- '06 A4 -- '03 A4 -- '00 A4

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    At your mileage, I’d call some local shops to get quotes on carbon cleaning w/walnut blasting for the intake valves. Here locally, I’ve met a couple guys that had it done for about $500 (parts & labor). They mentioned that they noticed an immediate difference in low end torque and mpg. I do not recall their mileage, but I know it was well over 100k.
    Last edited by EAFLO88; 10-27-2018 at 02:50 PM.

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    Mike are you having a stroke? You never mistype

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    Veteran Member Four Rings bhvrdr's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by theweebabyseamus View Post
    Mike are you having a stroke? You never mistype
    Lol. Im getting careless. Ill mention it to my primary care provider though. You never know

    2018 Audi S5
    12.72 @ 108.85mph - 93 octane - +1565DA - Bone Stock
    11.68 @ 117mph - e30 octane - (-945DA) - jb4 only

    2013 Audi S5 DSG - Unitronic ECU & 034 TCU, 3.17pr
    11.07 at 123.62mph - draggy - 93 octane - (-407ft DA)
    Gone-
    '10 A4 Avant - '13 S5 #1 -- '16 A6 -- '15 S4 -- '09 A4 -- '04 S4 -- '06 A4 -- '03 A4 -- '00 A4

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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    Cooling for sure. It’s nice to have consistency with all that extra power. I noticed heat soak on stage 2+ prior to the heat exchanger. Now I just have consistent power all the time.
    2011 Phantom Black Effect S4 6MT Prestige, Sport Differential, Flat-Bottom Steering wheel with red stitching, RS4 Aluminum pedals, 034 Transmission mount, Roc-Euro Intake, Roc-Euro Short Shifter, 90mm AWE Touring Exhaust with stock downpipes, Unitronic Stage 2+, JHM 179mm Overdrive Crank Pulley, MercRacing heat exchanger, Stasis rear sway bar, CR-15, Gloss Black RS4 Grille, Sachs Xtend Clutch, 034 Density-Line Motor Mounts, Bilstein B12 Suspension Cup-Kit

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    B8.5 S4 - Daily commuter. IE Stage 2 ECU/TCU, IE intake
    AP1 S2k (glass rear window) Black with full red interior - all suspension mods - SCCA car
    Evo VIII - AEM EMS, Cosworth Cams, intake, Whiteline front and rear sway bars, exhaust, etc., etc., etc..

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Allan691's Avatar
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    Eurocode sway bars and end links (complete USS kit) seem obvious.. especially if you track it. I just ordered the kit based on all the reviews and cannot wait until it arrives.

    I am not experiencing heat soaking so cannot advise on that..

    P.S. I too am not eager to change my wheels (also have stock Peelers) or lower her.. That’ll be last for me...if at all.


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    2009 Euro-spec Black Optics S4 Avant APR Stage 2 APR SC pulley + JHM187 with APR Open Air Intake • CR-15 + AK + Eurocode USS + Diff + Trans inserts • P3

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    Veteran Member Four Rings bhvrdr's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan691 View Post
    Eurocode sway bars and end links (complete USS kit) seem obvious.. especially if you track it. I just ordered the kit based on all the reviews and cannot wait until it arrives.

    I am not experiencing heat soaking so cannot advise on that..

    P.S. I too am not eager to change my wheels (also have stock Peelers) or lower her.. That’ll be last for me...if at all.


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    I wouldnt recommend the uc end links. The end links are solid spherical and designed for track cars that maintain them more than annually. On the streets they get dirt in them, they get oxidation , they get noisy and can need replacement annually for very little benefit.

    Mike

    2018 Audi S5
    12.72 @ 108.85mph - 93 octane - +1565DA - Bone Stock
    11.68 @ 117mph - e30 octane - (-945DA) - jb4 only

    2013 Audi S5 DSG - Unitronic ECU & 034 TCU, 3.17pr
    11.07 at 123.62mph - draggy - 93 octane - (-407ft DA)
    Gone-
    '10 A4 Avant - '13 S5 #1 -- '16 A6 -- '15 S4 -- '09 A4 -- '04 S4 -- '06 A4 -- '03 A4 -- '00 A4

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Allan691's Avatar
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    Read some reports of noise, but it all (noise and subsequent maintenance) seemed somewhat trivial.. I can always try them out.. Not a huge deal either way.


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    2009 Euro-spec Black Optics S4 Avant APR Stage 2 APR SC pulley + JHM187 with APR Open Air Intake • CR-15 + AK + Eurocode USS + Diff + Trans inserts • P3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan691 View Post
    Read some reports of noise, but it all (noise and subsequent maintenance) seemed somewhat trivial.. I can always try them out.. Not a huge deal either way.


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    Lol ya ur correct and the countless threads/owners of said endlinks that have failed are wrong. Just buy the metal moogs and be done with it. The eurocode are built for track use not daily drivers.
    That said their sways are great. The moogs are much cheaper also.
    2011 S4 6mt Black/ Magma/ Carbon
    HRE ff01 | Rotiform ind-t | AWE Touring | P3 | Roc Euro | PLM | Eurocode Sways | Apr Stage 2 | H&R Sport | Q5 ECS Wave F/R | CR15 | AK | Eurocode Inserts | 034 subframe Inserts | Ecs Carbon Diffuser | JHM CP | ECS Short Shifter |

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Allan691's Avatar
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    ...should one order the dust boots..? I did not.. Did not read about anyone doing so..

    Honestly tho, I am not even sure I’ll be here in Italy in a year or two.. I am on a work transfer permit and under a two year contract. So I may never even get to the point of hearing the noise..

    P.S. From what I have read, there is more than “very little” benefit.


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    2009 Euro-spec Black Optics S4 Avant APR Stage 2 APR SC pulley + JHM187 with APR Open Air Intake • CR-15 + AK + Eurocode USS + Diff + Trans inserts • P3

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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Thanks for all the replies - Just did full drivetrain inserts and alu kruez to better up the handling, now I am considering lowering the car 1.2" and adding the front cooler, I just wanted to find the one that kept IAT's the lowest.

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