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    Hit 90,000 miles, too many issues to keep

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    Its been bittersweet ownership of our A4 Avant. Probably the sexiest car weve ever seen, still to this day. It was great when the warranty took care of things. Ever since the piston replacement the engine is down on power. Weve been noticing a steering clunk and thunk in the steering wheel and its become very hard to turn. A few days ago I noticed a significant puddle of oil on the ground under the engine. The battery is also dying...cant complain about that since its the original and 8 years old. Things have become too expensive to repair and now we are always anxious about whats next. My wife bought a 16 TT and this avant was for our son to drive. Not now, time to see if I can get a decent trade value. I really wish this engine didnt suck so bad. Hopefully the 16 model of this engine treats us better. If not well be done with VAG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by languiduck View Post
    Its been bittersweet ownership of our A4 Avant. Probably the sexiest car weve ever seen, still to this day. It was great when the warranty took care of things. Ever since the piston replacement the engine is down on power. Weve been noticing a steering clunk and thunk in the steering wheel and its become very hard to turn. A few days ago I noticed a significant puddle of oil on the ground under the engine. The battery is also dying...cant complain about that since its the original and 8 years old. Things have become too expensive to repair and now we are always anxious about whats next. My wife bought a 16 TT and this avant was for our son to drive. Not now, time to see if I can get a decent trade value. I really wish this engine didnt suck so bad. Hopefully the 16 model of this engine treats us better. If not well be done with VAG.
    That sucks. There is nothing surprising here. The B8 is a disaster.
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    See this thread for a tip that might help the steering.
    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...0#post13342600
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    Hit 90,000 miles, too many issues to keep

    Well there is no doubt this engine is a disaster. It is worth pointing out however that all manufacturers are pushing 4 cyl engines to their limit as governments pressure them for more fuel efficiency and lower emissions. This article is 7 engines to avoid like the plague. Notice how many 4 cyl engines in the group

    https://www.wheels.ca/top-ten/seven-...0Sport,PAV%201


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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by languiduck View Post
    Its been bittersweet ownership of our A4 Avant. Probably the sexiest car weve ever seen, still to this day. It was great when the warranty took care of things. Ever since the piston replacement the engine is down on power. Weve been noticing a steering clunk and thunk in the steering wheel and its become very hard to turn. A few days ago I noticed a significant puddle of oil on the ground under the engine. The battery is also dying...cant complain about that since its the original and 8 years old. Things have become too expensive to repair and now we are always anxious about whats next. My wife bought a 16 TT and this avant was for our son to drive. Not now, time to see if I can get a decent trade value. I really wish this engine didnt suck so bad. Hopefully the 16 model of this engine treats us better. If not well be done with VAG.
    You got 8 years on original battery? That's insane! Batteries only last 3 years max in Florida due to the heat. As for the rest of the issues, you either need to find an independent shop or start turning wrenches yourself. Everyone knows German cars over 75k miles need work done. Your upper control arms and shocks are most likely toast also.

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    I say sell that thing and buy a steeply depreciated late model e-Golf.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings a4lownslow's Avatar
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    Hit 90,000 miles, too many issues to keep

    I wouldnt be surprised if your oil leak is from the rear main seal. I just replaced mine the other day, OE completely failed. 120$ for the upgraded seal and about 8 hours work. Check for latest PCV revision too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cuda2000 View Post
    You got 8 years on original battery? That's insane! Batteries only last 3 years max in Florida due to the heat. [/URL]
    I agree. My rule of thumb is usually 3-4 years, but I JUST replaced my A4 original battery today after 6.5 years. Winter IS coming.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by a4lownslow View Post
    I wouldnt be surprised if your oil leak is from the rear main seal. I just replaced mine the other day, OE completely failed. 120$ for the upgraded seal and about 8 hours work. Check for latest PCV revision too.


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    Thats an engine out job no ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fwgj View Post
    I agree. My rule of thumb is usually 3-4 years, but I JUST replaced my A4 original battery today after 6.5 years. Winter IS coming.....
    I typically get 8-10 years out of a battery. Last one was 13
    Was weird to see 05 sticker on it.


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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    Thats an engine out job no ?


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    No but it's a drop the transmission job. There are how tos on this site for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    Thats an engine out job no ?


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    Yes It was. A shop would drop the transmission, but its easier for me to pull the engine by myself. IMG_4320.JPGIMG_4363.JPG


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    Not to hijack . But is there an engine removal DIY ?


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    Active Member Three Rings
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    Yes, lettuce has one. Also have you tried alldatadiy.com? It's like $20 or $30 for a year of access to all technical docs for a given model car. I got it and have really liked it; it has everything. And it does have good details on how to remove and install the motor.

    Here's lettuce's engine swap, FWIW:
    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post11801285

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    Active Member Three Rings
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    My favorite line from his engine swap is:
    "Put [the old motor] outside just in case it's contagious so it doesn't infect your nice, new motor."

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    Thanks for the suggestions and input. I do turn my own wrenches but I don't have a lift. The amount of work and parts costs have exceeded our desire to keep it I guess. The clicking and thunking in the steering wheel finalized our decision, a shot of grease in a zerk isn't going to fix it. It's been traded in, so sad, but yet have a feeling of relief. With how it sat I took $10k for trade in on it.
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    Senior Member Four Rings Theiceman's Avatar
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    Hit 90,000 miles, too many issues to keep

    Thanks guys.

    Btw i think 10g is pretty good !


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    Sad, but I understand why you did it. BTW I believe the new TT 's run the gen 3 engine which doesn't have any major issues that I know of ... yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuda2000 View Post
    You got 8 years on original battery? That's insane! Batteries only last 3 years max in Florida due to the heat. As for the rest of the issues, you either need to find an independent shop or start turning wrenches yourself. Everyone knows German cars over 75k miles need work done. Your upper control arms and shocks are most likely toast also.

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    My original battery is 7.5 years old and still hanging in there. :) Not sure it will make it through the cold weather though.

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    It's a german car. Every Audi I have owned has had similar problems. Granted, nothing as severe as the OP, but they all are pretty predictable in what goes wrong.
    We have had very good luck with all ours and they have been as reliable as most other brands I've owned. They just require a bit more upkeep (which is ok since I wrench on my own cars)

    Unfortunately, my wife only likes Audi's. Otherwise I would buy a Toyota, Lexus or some of the other Korean or Japanese cars.
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