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    Active Member One Ring bob.os's Avatar
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    Allroad folding spare trouble

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    I had the misfortune of needing to use my spare yesterday. When I got it out to inflate it the pump made zero progress. Switched the pump off and heard a quick hiss as what little air it put in the tire quickly escaped.

    A close look shows that the tire was off the bead. I ended up taking it to a nearby tire shop to have them inflate it. After fixing the original tire I deflated the spare hoping that it would stay on the bead. It did not.

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    A quick test of the small compressor got the same results. Is there a trick to get this spare back on the bead and usable?


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    fun dangerous way.. starter fluid ;)

    can try less fun but safe way, ratchet strap around the tire compressing bead to hold air in. Also using an air compressor that has a storage tank not one like stock might help.

    safest way but may cost a few bucks, tire shop with a machine that has the ring around it that has jets to force air in to seat the bead.. or does stretched tires and has one of those air cannon things. basically a tank you'd bring to a race track to fill your tires but with a nozzle on it.
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    Active Member One Ring bob.os's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris86vw View Post
    fun dangerous way.. starter fluid ;)
    That's one way to add some adventure to a roadside wheel swap :)

    I keep a ratchet strap in the well with the tire. I may try that to see if it will take on some air, but with the way the tire folds I do not think that it will push the tire bead out to the edge of the wheel. I am also going to experiment with deflating it slowly to see if I can keep it from sliding off when it folds.
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    yeea, shoulda had the tire shop take care of that while you were there, dont want to mess around with that without the proper equipment
    even though the starter fluid method is fun . . . .
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    I had the same issue with mine, these don't age well, the rubber is too hard and instead of folding, the bead pulls back off the edge of the rim. I put some Sikaflex on the bead, inflated the tire with a big compressor and let it dry. Now the bead is glued to the rim and won't pull away. If the bead is not well sealed the little 12v compressor has no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WagonGuy View Post
    I had the same issue with mine, these don't age well, the rubber is too hard and instead of folding, the bead pulls back off the edge of the rim.
    Well, yeah... The newest of these tires as originally fitted are 13+ years old. Time to replace the tire.
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