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    D4 S8 Lowering Advice

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    I was wondering if anyone has had any experience in lowering their S8 via VCDS or lowering links.

    My biggest concern is damaging my suspension and/or voiding my warranty. What kind of info can you guys give me?

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    I just did mine about a month ago...lowered 20mm. Did it with VCDS, no problems...sometimes it finicky and you may have to go up or down a few MM to get it to accept, but not sure you'll never notice it.

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    Not VCDS or links but have you considered a module? You can remove them without a trace. H&R or CETE.

    https://youtu.be/Pk5Jmqqndtk

    https://youtu.be/hJU3rCOgYFA


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    Do the air bags wear out quicker or get damaged overtime when lowering it on the stock suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trust93 View Post
    Do the air bags wear out quicker or get damaged overtime when lowering it on the stock suspension?
    I wouldnít be able to give you any input and Iíve recently lowered mine. Maybe someone else can chime in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tabio42 View Post
    Not VCDS or links but have you considered a module? You can remove them without a trace. H&R or CETE.

    https://youtu.be/Pk5Jmqqndtk

    https://youtu.be/hJU3rCOgYFA


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    How much is that device?

    Looks expensive

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    In Nashville there a German auto shop that will vcd lower your car $600.00 if I recall plan on getting mines done in 90 days or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 09S5 View Post
    How much is that device?

    Looks expensive

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    Itís like $2000 new. Look for a used one. If you have a facelift S8 I would consider selling mine....


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    Out of my budget.

    I'll take the Nashville shop for $600 please.

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    I have the 4.0T A8, but just bought a CETE module for ~$1,350. It installs the exact same way the H&R module does. Pretty easy install but there are no good instructions

    I did some rough measurements (starting from Dynamic/stock) and the CETE module adjusts anywhere with a max lowering of ~2.5" (show mode). The bluetooth app works great to adjust height whenever you want.

    The D4 seems to have a small air compressor and small holding tank - adjustments are very slow and if you want to go from slammed/show mode up to stock, the air compressor needs to kick in. You can hear the compressor run, it waits to fill the small tank, then it pukes the tank air out in bursts. Seems to be a good oem design and very quiet, just not meant to adjust a lot

    I'll eventually write up a better DIY for the CETE module install (H&R install is identical) for the D4 facelift (~2016+)
    Ignorance is bliss.

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    D4 S8 Lowering Advice

    If anyone wants the H&R for a facelift model Iíll sell mine.


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    Last edited by tabio42; 08-31-2018 at 06:16 AM.

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    Nashville shop is crazy $600 to VCD lower your car.

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    What's the average cost for lowering?

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    Free just find someone in your area, usually a case of beer lol

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    No freebie in my area.
    Inflation

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    I'll be dropping my D4 S8 today with VCDS - will post before, after, and writeup on it.


    Current: '15 D4 S8 - APR Stage 1, BCForged HB04, VCDS 20mm Drop, B&O, Drive Assist, CF Interior, & C/W

    Rest in Peace: C7 S6 APR Stage III, RS7 Turbos, APR Cooling Performance System, APR TCU Tune, Vag-Cop 17mm drop, Axel-back Borla S-Types, Burnt Titanium Tips

    Previous: '13 S4 - STaSiS

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    As I said above, lowered mine with Vag. It took about 15-20 min, as I never did it before...I used these instructions...I think I found them here, so no credit to me...

    I measured all 4 corners first to see my starting point...I was stock height. I then lowered 20mm, about 1in.



    ==============================

    Factory heights from wheel center to the lower edge of the fender:



    To lower or raise it using VCDS:

    [Select]
    [34 - Level Control]
    [Coding - 10]

    Stock code is: 0015510 Ride height can be adjusted by changing those 5's. The first one is for the front and the second one for the rear. 4 - 0 will set lower ride for 5 - 25 mm (5 mm per digit). 6 - 9 will set higher ride for 5 - 20 mm. This will change all MMI settings for the same amount. Make your choice than:

    [Do It]

    To complete this change:

    Car on a flat surface, transmission in park, engine running and all doors closed.

    Measure in millimeters actual heights from wheel center to the lower edge of the fender and record them:

    [Select]
    [34 - Level Control]
    [Security Access - 16]
    Enter 31564
    [Do It!]

    [Adaption - 10]

    Wait until car goes down and up and you get Ready message.

    Under Stored Value you will actually have TARGET value. For stock height fronts will always be 416 and rears 398. If you changed those 5's to 4's you will have there 411 and 393 respectively. 3's will give you 406 and 388, 2's 401 and 383, 1's 396 and 378 and finally 0's 391 and 373.

    Channel 01 (front left)

    Enter the measured value.

    [Test]

    Unfortunately it won't always accept that value. If you get INVALID message go channel up and back down using arrows and enter value somewhere in between measured and target values. Try first closest to the measured value and repeat until you get VALID message.

    [Save]

    Repeat this procedure for the rest of wheels. Channel 02 is front right, channel 03 rear left, channel 04 rear right.

    Channel 05 (Save)
    Key in: 1
    [Test]
    [Save]
    [Done, Go Back]

    If it didn't accept real measured values drive around the block and repeat Adaptation. You can do it few times to get it as close to target heights as possible. There is no point to go with fine tuning better than 2 mm.

    Furthermore, it is your car and you are allowed to cheat a bit. By entering higher numbers (not more than a few millimeters) you can lower it exactly where you want it. For example: if Recorded Value is 391 and you key in 394 it will go 3 mm down. Of course if that value is VALID

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttboost View Post
    As I said above, lowered mine with Vag. It took about 15-20 min, as I never did it before...I used these instructions...I think I found them here, so no credit to me...

    I measured all 4 corners first to see my starting point...I was stock height. I then lowered 20mm, about 1in.



    ==============================

    Factory heights from wheel center to the lower edge of the fender:



    To lower or raise it using VCDS:

    [Select]
    [34 - Level Control]
    [Coding - 10]

    Stock code is: 0015510 Ride height can be adjusted by changing those 5's. The first one is for the front and the second one for the rear. 4 - 0 will set lower ride for 5 - 25 mm (5 mm per digit). 6 - 9 will set higher ride for 5 - 20 mm. This will change all MMI settings for the same amount. Make your choice than:

    [Do It]

    To complete this change:

    Car on a flat surface, transmission in park, engine running and all doors closed.

    Measure in millimeters actual heights from wheel center to the lower edge of the fender and record them:

    [Select]
    [34 - Level Control]
    [Security Access - 16]
    Enter 31564
    [Do It!]

    [Adaption - 10]

    Wait until car goes down and up and you get Ready message.

    Under Stored Value you will actually have TARGET value. For stock height fronts will always be 416 and rears 398. If you changed those 5's to 4's you will have there 411 and 393 respectively. 3's will give you 406 and 388, 2's 401 and 383, 1's 396 and 378 and finally 0's 391 and 373.

    Channel 01 (front left)

    Enter the measured value.

    [Test]

    Unfortunately it won't always accept that value. If you get INVALID message go channel up and back down using arrows and enter value somewhere in between measured and target values. Try first closest to the measured value and repeat until you get VALID message.

    [Save]

    Repeat this procedure for the rest of wheels. Channel 02 is front right, channel 03 rear left, channel 04 rear right.

    Channel 05 (Save)
    Key in: 1
    [Test]
    [Save]
    [Done, Go Back]

    If it didn't accept real measured values drive around the block and repeat Adaptation. You can do it few times to get it as close to target heights as possible. There is no point to go with fine tuning better than 2 mm.

    Furthermore, it is your car and you are allowed to cheat a bit. By entering higher numbers (not more than a few millimeters) you can lower it exactly where you want it. For example: if Recorded Value is 391 and you key in 394 it will go 3 mm down. Of course if that value is VALID
    The security code for my car, last night was 20103 (D4 S8)


    Current: '15 D4 S8 - APR Stage 1, BCForged HB04, VCDS 20mm Drop, B&O, Drive Assist, CF Interior, & C/W

    Rest in Peace: C7 S6 APR Stage III, RS7 Turbos, APR Cooling Performance System, APR TCU Tune, Vag-Cop 17mm drop, Axel-back Borla S-Types, Burnt Titanium Tips

    Previous: '13 S4 - STaSiS

    Previous: '04 S4





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    I had a D3 S8 lowered 22mm via VAG COM and tracked it -- 150k miles later on stock shocks with 0 issues. Anyone have screen shots or details of how to lower my D4 via VAG COM? I want to do the same to it.

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    I really really really want an V10

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    Quote Originally Posted by A8LOOONG View Post
    I had a D3 S8 lowered 22mm via VAG COM and tracked it -- 150k miles later on stock shocks with 0 issues. Anyone have screen shots or details of how to lower my D4 via VAG COM? I want to do the same to it.

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    Just saw the write up above. THANKS!

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    I recently lowered my 2014 A8L using the VCDS and instructions from another forum on here. I went 17mm this time just to see what the ride was like and the ride height would look like. I plan on tweaking it this weekend to go lower. I paid $217 for my Vag-com from Ross-Tech and it was worth every penny. I have been able to activate video in motion (VID) to play dvd's while I drive and adjust several other items that I read about. I will update again after I adjust the ride height again. Here is the link that I followed https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...-AAS-with-VCDS.
    Last edited by Dug-E-fresh; 12-28-2018 at 10:01 AM. Reason: Adding a link to other forum in audizine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug-E-fresh View Post
    I recently lowered my 2014 A8L using the VCDS and instructions from another forum on here. I went 17mm this time just to see what the ride was like and the ride height would look like. I plan on tweaking it this weekend to go lower. I paid $217 for my Vag-com from Ross-Tech and it was worth every penny. I have been able to activate video in motion (VID) to play dvd's while I drive and adjust several other items that I read about. I will update again after I adjust the ride height again. Here is the link that I followed https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...-AAS-with-VCDS.
    Awesome news. $217 is cheap enough we should ALL have VAG COM.

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    I really really really want an V10

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    Okay guys...today was the perfect day and so I lowered my A8L again. This time I went to 435mm all the way around. I posted some pics of how she turned out.20190105_135727.jpeg20190105_135720.jpeg20190105_135639.jpeg20190105_135637.jpeg20190105_135607.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug-E-fresh View Post
    Okay guys...today was the perfect day and so I lowered my A8L again. This time I went to 435mm all the way around. I posted some pics of how she turned out.20190105_135727.jpeg20190105_135720.jpeg20190105_135639.jpeg20190105_135637.jpeg20190105_135607.jpeg

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    Looks great. Nice work.

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    I really really really want an V10

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    I just ordered these....22x10Screenshot_20190105-162237_Chrome.jpeg

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    2007 Atomic Orange Corvette Z06 7.0L
    1965 Impala SS, L92 swap (6.2L LS3), 6 speed manual T-56, 4.11 gears, Large cam
    I really really really want an V10

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    You gonna need spacers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A8LOOONG View Post
    Those the verde axis? I was looking at those too.

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    Standard offset is 45 I think. With 10mm spacers on those I'm at 35. Fronts will be at 32 which I think is perfect. Rears are 42, so with 10mm spacers they'll be perfect at 32 also.

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    Last edited by A8LOOONG; 01-10-2019 at 08:55 PM.
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    2007 Atomic Orange Corvette Z06 7.0L
    1965 Impala SS, L92 swap (6.2L LS3), 6 speed manual T-56, 4.11 gears, Large cam
    I really really really want an V10

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    Not trying to thread hijack...would you consider some lightly used BC Forged 22s brushed dark? nice set-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLa8L View Post
    Not trying to thread hijack...would you consider some lightly used BC Forged 22s brushed dark? nice set-up.
    Lol this thing is to hijacked now.

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    I really really really want an V10

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLa8L View Post
    Not trying to thread hijack...would you consider some lightly used BC Forged 22s brushed dark? nice set-up.
    👀

    Info is in another thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug-E-fresh View Post
    I just ordered these....22x10Screenshot_20190105-162237_Chrome.jpeg

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    So I got my wheels in and put them on today. No spacers, 22x10 et38 all the way around. Lowered to 430mm front and 435mm in the rear using my VAG-COM through VCDS.20190111_134558.jpeg20190111_134536.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug-E-fresh View Post
    So I got my wheels in and put them on today. No spacers, 22x10 et38 all the way around. Lowered to 430mm front and 435mm in the rear using my VAG-COM through VCDS.20190111_134558.jpeg20190111_134536.jpeg

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    I add 15mm spacers to the rear and now she sits perfectly....20190112_125931.jpg20190112_130243.jpeg1547319930703.jpeg1547319960227.jpeg

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