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    Engine won't start after stalling out. B6 '04 S4

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    So I decided to teach my girlfriend how to drive a manual transmission last Monday. She did great mind you, but stalled out 4 times. The last time she stalled out was trying to park on a small incline in front of our house. After switching seats to park it myself, the engine wouldn't turn over. I figured after trying a second time that we had flooded the engine so I let it rest for almost an hour. When I came back to it, it turned over but then died out before it could even idle. Waited 2 more hours and the engine just made the cranking sound but never turned over assuming for lack of fuel. As you can guess I'm a total newbie with this car and called a mobile mechanic for his thoughts.

    The mobile mechanic came and said his best guess was that it was an emergency fuel cutoff valve for when you get into accidents. Per all my reading it doesn't look like there is one, there's just pulling the fuel fuse. Anyway the mechanic left without helping figure out the issue and I'm stuck because of my lack of experience with this car. Any thoughts on what would have caused the lack of fuel? Could it be the fuel pump? Is there a cutoff valve? Any input or help pointing me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

    Right now she's just parked there on a small incline...

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    so this may be a dumb question, but how much fuel is in the tank?
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    can you get someone to assist with a rolling start and pop the clutch?
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    Senior Member Four Rings VinnysS4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by M0ve0ver View Post
    so this may be a dumb question, but how much fuel is in the tank?
    Not a dumb question at all. My car has left me stranded three times in the middle of nowhere do to a faulty fuel level sender.

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    Texpoops "Correct, but a half inch difference isnít going to accelerate wear by much. Iím sure the front dips that much with a fatty in the front"

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    Not at all! But there is full tank in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdsb6s4 View Post
    can you get someone to assist with a rolling start and pop the clutch?
    That's my plan for tomorrow morning. I'll let you know, but the mobile mechanic that came by said that probably wouldn't work which is why I haven't tried it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prudenteda View Post
    That's my plan for tomorrow morning. I'll let you know, but the mobile mechanic that came by said that probably wouldn't work which is why I haven't tried it yet.
    If there s a problem with fuel delivery or spark, it won't work. You could roll it at 100 mph and it would do nothing beneficial but blow your hair around and help you not hate your car for 20 seconds; until it rolls to a stop. (My Silvia did this to me. A 65mph roll start did nothing for a failed ECM lol)

    It almost sounds flooded.

    So basically you need to start at square 1. Back to the basics. Fuel, Air, Spark, Timing, Exhaust, Compression. More notably called FASTEC in the diagnostic world. I'd strongly encourage you to watch a couple YouTube videos made by 2 mechanics. Scannerdanner and Schrodringers box. Both have extremely well laid out videos about using fastec to diagnose a non-starting car.
    They will show you how to use different sensors like map sensor or O2 sensors in the diagnostic process.
    And most of the time, it doesn't take long to figure it out.

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    Texpoops "Correct, but a half inch difference isnít going to accelerate wear by much. Iím sure the front dips that much with a fatty in the front"

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    Thank you so much, will do! And thank you for saving me the frustration of just blowing my hair in the wind.

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    Senior Member Four Rings VinnysS4's Avatar
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    Lol. Not saying it won't work. If it's flooded, it would help clear the cylinders out. I just think attacking it through diagnostics is a better choice.
    Unless you are Trump. And you want your "hair" blowing in the wind. :D

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    Texpoops "Correct, but a half inch difference isnít going to accelerate wear by much. Iím sure the front dips that much with a fatty in the front"



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