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    Whatís up guys, I figured it was finally time for me to create a build thread to use to keep track of everything Iím doing to my car, and also show you guys whatís going on. But first, a little background on me and my history with the b6 platform.

    When I was in the 5th grade my brother got a 1 year old, CPO brilliant black b6. It was a Quattro tiptronic car, and man I just thought it was the coolest thing ever. He would pick me up from school and he had his bose system bumping and we would take off out of there and I just thought it was the fastest car. Fast forward a few years and he started having some issues with, typical B6 stuff, coolant flange, window regulators and what not. And he was still taking it to the dealership to get that stuff fixed, but then his warranty was out. Soon after his k03 let go due to an oil feed issue, and the stealership wanted over 2k to replace it. He and I decided we would attempt it on our own, with the help of Audizine we were able to accomplish it.

    Fast forward again to when I turn 16, now it was time for me to get a car. I wanted something reliable and that I can take off-road and have a good time in. So I got an 89 fj62 land cruiser. I love this car and still have it, but it was in unbelievably good condition from California so no rust. And living in Utah I knew a winter was coming up and I didnít want the salt to even see that car, so I knew it was time to buy a new daily so I can park the cruiser. I am a typical kid, looking at WRXs and STIs, and the occasional diesel truck. But then I decided to shop for a b6 and thatís when I found my 04, Mauritius Blue B6 sport, it unfortunately was an auto, but I knew that could be changed. So on December 6th 2015 I bought my B6 site unseen, specifically for that blue. Here is the first picture I ever took of her IMG_3598.JPG
    I wish it had a black interior, but the platinum is in pretty good condition IMG_3599.jpg

    Right off the bat, this car had quite a few problems, immediately needed a coolant flange, two months after that popped the k03, about two weeks after that the crank sensor left me stranded, and many other minor issues along the way (boost leaks, sjc, n75, evap purge, etc.) This car has definitely been a challenge getting her back up to speed, it was neglected for quite some time. But with my brother still whippin his B6, and all the knowledge I had from his car, I knew I could handle it.

    My brother always wanted to go bigger turbo, or just make it fast in general. Especially now that I had a B6 with a stage 1 tune, and his was still stock. So he decided he wanted to go the 2.7 route, which was cool, and we finished his up earlier this year. IMG_6562.jpg
    But now, itís my turn

    So my goal with this car is to keep it a reliable daily, but still be able to hold my own against the local STIs and Evos, tall order for a B6 I know. But I think I have a good setup in mind. My brother gave me his old engine to work with, so I can build it up and swap it in with my manual, so that worked perfectly. Hereís my parts list, I have most of these items in my garage already.

    Comp CT3 5558 t25
    ATP t25 log manifold
    Custom dabbed downpipe
    IE connecting rods with 20mm wristpins
    Wiseco pistons
    Full OEM gasket kit
    ECS RA4 stage 2 kit
    Metal slave cylinder with braided clutch line
    Various AN lines and fittings for oil and coolant lines
    Snow performance water meth
    I do not have my pistons yet because I donít know how the cylinder bores are, block is going to machine shop next week so hopefully I will know soon.
    Iím sure thereís more stuff also that Iím forgetting.

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    Here is the car this is all for, eventually I would like to get Sportec front bumper and skirts, and get it resprayed. But I want it to go fast before it looks fast.
    Thanks for reading guys, I would love to have some input.



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    Brakes.....got to have some brakes. Stickers are crap and IMO will barely stop a stock b6.
    For the value a used set of B7 front and rear can't be beat. Totally bolts on and you will thank yourself for it.

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    you are converting the automatic to manual transmission?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BARRY View Post
    you are converting the automatic to manual transmission?
    Yessir



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    how much have you spent towards builds the 1.8? if you still haven't bought anything, I would go 2.7 swap like your brother, for the cost of building the 1.8 you could just freshen up a 2.7 and go stage 3 and not only make more power than most big turbo 1.8's but also have much more usable power around town. I've said it many times, the 1.8 just isn't worth the huge amount of money for such little gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blitz2190 View Post
    how much have you spent towards builds the 1.8? if you still haven't bought anything, I would go 2.7 swap like your brother, for the cost of building the 1.8 you could just freshen up a 2.7 and go stage 3 and not only make more power than most big turbo 1.8's but also have much more usable power around town. I've said it many times, the 1.8 just isn't worth the huge amount of money for such little gains.
    I have definitely considered that, but I have driven my brothers car a ton and its cool, but I want to try the 1.8 first. Also Iíve gotten good deals on parts so far and I know what my brother paid for his swap and it is not as cheap as everyone makes it out to be.


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    Iím with Blitz on this.

    Bang for buck, the little 1.8T four cylinder doesnít cut it. Youíll make a ton of power with the right set up, but you may end up with a very peaky daily round town.

    A stage 3 1.8T car may well produce more power than a stock 2.7T, but the difference in the way they drive will be night and day. Donít forget, increasing power in an engine brings its own set of issues - things break, maintainace costs increase. Power is addictive.

    These guys advising you on Audizine know their stuff, I would listen to them. You could sell your 1.8T set up, buy a complete C5 A6 2.7T with a bad tip trans. Sell whatís left, as well as the 1.8T in your B6, and be well ahead in terms of money and power. Going the 1.8T route is cool, but itís also doing the same job twice, which most folk who were not advised would do.

    Youíve had the benefit of advise, but of course, the decision lies with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B6_A4_Kid View Post
    I have definitely considered that, but I have driven my brothers car a ton and its cool, but I want to try the 1.8 first. Also Iíve gotten good deals on parts so far and I know what my brother paid for his swap and it is not as cheap as everyone makes it out to be.


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    I promise its cheaper done right, I have done it a few times personally now, wired and swapped more for others. I can have a complete 2.7 with turbos and harness for $300 around here, usually I say its the knowledge and labor thats gonna kill you but as your bother has the experience already I think its a pretty easy choice, you'll be very upset with the power band of a 1.8 after driving your brothers around. even a stage 2 2.7 will walk most 1.8's. Just as a reference, the first time around I spent $350 for the engine, $500 for timing and and all the seals (headgasket, intake, exhaust, etc), $700 for the 01e swap which your doing regardless of engine(bought a wrecked 3.0), and about $500 in parts to build my own exhaust. now obviously it can get much more expensive, but I can definitely swap a fresh 2.7 in for less than it takes to build a 1.8.
    Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blitz2190 View Post
    I promise its cheaper done right, I have done it a few times personally now, wired and swapped more for others. I can have a complete 2.7 with turbos and harness for $300 around here, usually I say its the knowledge and labor thats gonna kill you but as your bother has the experience already I think its a pretty easy choice, you'll be very upset with the power band of a 1.8 after driving your brothers around. even a stage 2 2.7 will walk most 1.8's. Just as a reference, the first time around I spent $350 for the engine, $500 for timing and and all the seals (headgasket, intake, exhaust, etc), $700 for the 01e swap which your doing regardless of engine(bought a wrecked 3.0), and about $500 in parts to build my own exhaust. now obviously it can get much more expensive, but I can definitely swap a fresh 2.7 in for less than it takes to build a 1.8.
    Trust me. Iíve thought long and hard about this swap and for me personally I am going to go 1.8t. I was the one who actually did the swap for my brothers car so I have the knowledge and tools. I got my block for free, turbo unbelievably cheap, manifold locally for cheap, and some ie rods from a buddy. This is a budget build and 2.7s in my area are around 700 bucks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by B6_A4_Kid View Post
    Trust me. Iíve thought long and hard about this swap and for me personally I am going to go 1.8t. I was the one who actually did the swap for my brothers car so I have the knowledge and tools. I got my block for free, turbo unbelievably cheap, manifold locally for cheap, and some used rods from a buddy. This is a budget build and 2.7s in my area are around 700 bucks.
    No problem. Keep us posted on your progress.
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    Canít wait to see the progress and how the 1.8T works for ya.

    Donít mind the 2.7 guys they are all smoke lol

    The parts you mentioned should make the car really fun for ya and enjoyable.

    a 1.8t built is sexy in the bay as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr1ce View Post
    Canít wait to see the progress and how the 1.8T works for ya.

    Donít mind the 2.7 guys they are all smoke lol

    The parts you mentioned should make the car really fun for ya and enjoyable.

    a 1.8t built is sexy in the bay as well
    Thanks for the good vibes man! I canít wait, itís definitely a slow build as Iím a broke college kid. Buts itís definitely happening!


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    Got some more goodies in the mail today.

    I do have a question though, I want to get my manifold ordered but I canít add the psi concepts manifold to my cart. I emailed them a few days ago about it and they never responded. Does anyone know whatís going on with them? Or want to sell me a nice t25 manifold for a good deal?


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    Finally had a chance to install my infinity kappas today, they sound great with my symphony 2+! IMG_7220.jpg


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    Iím getting ready to order my timing belt kit so I can assemble my donor engine but I am not sure if I should get a IE manual belt tensioner, or just a stock style one. Any input?


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    Quote Originally Posted by B6_A4_Kid View Post
    Iím getting ready to order my timing belt kit so I can assemble my donor engine but I am not sure if I should get a IE manual belt tensioner, or just a stock style one. Any input?


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    Personally, I'm going with the manual tensioner for my current gt2871r rebuild project. I've heard of the hydraulic tensioners failing, but I've never heard of the manual tensioners snapping our belts. Just have to check belt tension every time you do an oil change or whatever. If you're keeping this build pretty low-key you'll probably be fine with the stock one. If you're building a higher revving head like me, you're of course going to put more strain on the hydraulic tensioner.

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    Hereís an update for you guys and my build thread. Got the block back from machine shop, we ended up doing an 82.5mm piston just to clean up the cylinders. I went with wiseco pistons and IE rods. We are definitely getting there.

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