Official 2017+ rs3 and TTRS 1/4 mile database

[saxon]

Here is the list for all 2017+ RS3 and 2018+ TTRS

year
make
model
ecu tune
tcu tune
turbo
stage
file
fuel
tires (stock, street, drag) what size and brand/type
intake mods
exhaust mods
intercooler mods
d/a
date
timeslip

Weight Reduction- Please post how much weight you have removed from the car. Here are the weights that I know so far

Front Seat 65
Rear Upper 52
Rear Lower 13
Trunk 25
stock wheels/tires 48
Front Rotors 27
Exhaust 65
Stock caliper 17
Girodisc Front 22
kirkey seat 22
STM Front Brakes 13
stm brakes hd rotor 15
stock front brakes 44
Battery 65

your time will not be posted unless we see a time slip (with date etc) and all of the above information posted either in this post or a facebook post ( please post here)

if anything is caught to be a blatant lie the time will be removed/not added

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

[TTRSleeper]

Don't forget APR:

10.55 with E85 tune, E85, Toyo R888s and seats out.
10.7X with E85 tune, E85, Toyo R888s and full interior.

Also, Eurocode's 9.8 pass.

[CMEPASU]

Iroz had a 9.7 run today.

[saxon]

Iroz had a 9.7 run today.

posted

[TTRSleeper]

How about APR's 10.5 & 10.7? And Eurocode's 9.8?

posted

[saxon]

How about APR's 10.5 & 10.7? And Eurocode's 9.8?

eurocodes 9.8 is posted. mind posting all the details for the apr runs and ill be glad to post them

[TTRSleeper]

2018 Audi RS3
10.553 @ 127.62
APR ECU
Stock TCU
Stage 1
E85
Toyo R888s
Seats out
+100' DA
10-26-17
Timeslip: https://www.goapr.com/news/wp-conten...7/10/slips.png

2018 Audi RS3
10.769 @ 125.61
APR ECU
Stock TCU
Stage 1
E85
Toyo R888s
Full interior
+125' DA
10-26-17
Timeslip: https://www.goapr.com/news/wp-conten...7/10/slips.png

eurocodes 9.8 is posted. mind posting all the details for the apr runs and ill be glad to post them

[saxon]

2018 Audi RS3
10.553 @ 127.62
APR ECU
Stock TCU
Stage 1
E85
Toyo R888s
Seats out
+100' DA
10-26-17
Timeslip: https://www.goapr.com/news/wp-conten...7/10/slips.png

2018 Audi RS3
10.769 @ 125.61
APR ECU
Stock TCU
Stage 1
E85
Toyo R888s
Full interior
+125' DA
10-26-17
Timeslip: https://www.goapr.com/news/wp-conten...7/10/slips.png

done, i also added their 93 time as well

[TTRSleeper]

Awesome, thanks so much.

Signed, yours truly,

APRfanboi

done, i also added their 93 time as well

[Bowser330]

Thank you for putting this list together

so many 9'ers with more to come i'm sure, what an amazing platform.

[URHank]

Cool Idea and kudos for taking hte project on. I have data I can contribute.

[Damon@IE]

Year: 2017
Make: Audi
Model: RS3
ECU: Integrated Engineering
TCU: Stock
Stage: 2
File: E50
Fuel: E50
Wheels and Tries: Neuspeed RSE10 18" + Hoosier DR2
Mods: IE Carbon Fiber Intake, IE Cast Downpipe, IROZ Intercooler, Lightweight Cat-Back, Seats Out, Lightweight Battery, MSS Springs
Density Altitude: 7222 ft
Date: 06/23/2018

Left lane:


More to come now that we have E98 fuel functioning fine.

[ns2g8tr]

2018
Audi
RS3
ECU Iroz/custom Code
TCU Iroz/custom Code
stage 2
Ethanol
E70
Neuspeed RSe052 18x9 Hankook Evo2 Street 275/35 Front & 245/40 Rear
Iroz DP, mid pipe, FMIC, IE intake, Braille 10lb lithium battery, stock driver seat with passenger and rear seats removed
d/a 1866
6/22/18

[ILuvMyAudi]

2018
Audi
RS3
Custom Code
Stock
Stage 2
E70
Federal RS-RR
IROZ Downpipe, IROZ Midpipe, IROZ Intercooler, IE Intake
June 22nd, 2018
Left Lane
10.8 @ 127mph

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[TTRSleeper]

Any idea why you're down 7 MPH compared to ns2g8tr's car when you guys have basically the same setups (his car has the TCU tune and is a little lighter)?

2018
Audi
RS3
Custom Code
Stock
Stage 2
E70
Federal RS-RR
IROZ Downpipe, IROZ Midpipe, IROZ Intercooler, IE Intake
June 22nd, 2018
Left Lane
10.8 @ 127mph

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[ILuvMyAudi]

Any idea why you're down 7 MPH compared to ns2g8tr's car when you guys have basically the same setups (his car has the TCU tune and is a little lighter)?

If I had to guess it is because of the weight reduction and TCU tune. TCU tune from what I understand makes a huge difference in snapping those gear changes off. Could also be that I have beat the crap out of this car and engine already haha.

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[JsnMR2]

2018 Audi RS3

10.374 @ 134.20

Custom Code Stage 2 ECU tune
Custom Code TCU tune
E66 blend of fuel
245 Hoosier DR2's on 18" Neuspeed RSE10's
Iroz DP, Iroz turn down, Iroz IC, IE intake, interior seats removed and Kirkey drivers seat, 15lb Braille Battery, MSSkits track springs.
Heavy Neuspeed RSB and -2.5 degrees camber with 034 camber mounts for autoX use. Stock turbo inlet pipes and stock steel rotors.
DA 1,900 feet

[TTRSleeper]

Congrats on the stock turbo record. Do you mind revealing what your launch control was set to for this pass?

2018 Audi RS3

10.374 @ 134.20

Custom Code Stage 2 ECU tune
Custom Code TCU tune
E66 blend of fuel
245 Hoosier DR2's on 18" Neuspeed RSE10's
Iroz DP, Iroz turn down, Iroz IC, IE intake, interior seats removed and Kirkey drivers seat, 15lb Braille Battery, MSSkits track springs.
Heavy Neuspeed RSB and -2.5 degrees camber with 034 camber mounts for autoX use. Stock turbo inlet pipes and stock steel rotors.
DA 1,900 feet

[JsnMR2]

Congrats on the stock turbo record. Do you mind revealing what your launch control was set to for this pass?

Standard launch RPM on this pass. We made some changes later and got my 60 down to 1.51 but didn’t have time for a full clean pass. I’m making some changes and fully expect to go 10.1’s or so later this year.

[saxon]

i believe everyones times are updated

please have all items listed, especially DA

[3SR]

Standard launch RPM on this pass. We made some changes later and got my 60 down to 1.51 but didn’t have time for a full clean pass. I’m making some changes and fully expect to go 10.1’s or so later this year.

approaching 9 with stock turbo... amazeballs!!

[TTRSleeper]

Awesome man. I saw Hank mention it in one of the videos that on the 1.51 run you nailed the rev limiter on the 1->2 shift. Has that been fixed in the TCU tune?

I'm debating right now between CC and APR...

Standard launch RPM on this pass. We made some changes later and got my 60 down to 1.51 but didn’t have time for a full clean pass. I’m making some changes and fully expect to go 10.1’s or so later this year.

[JsnMR2]

Awesome man. I saw Hank mention it in one of the videos that on the 1.51 run you nailed the rev limiter on the 1->2 shift. Has that been fixed in the TCU tune?

I'm debating right now between CC and APR...

With the stage 2 ECU and TCU my shifts were butter smooth, hence the record breaking pass.

We tried a higher launch RPM near the end and just needed to tweak the shift points a bit. Starting cutting nasty 60's but I only had time for two passes. Had a revision to smooth out the shifting but ran out of time at the track. Another pass or two and we would have had it.

That's the thing about CC. They nail down these files and release them to every CC customer to run anytime they want. Want a road course tune? Cool... Street tune? Got it. Drag race tune, it's there. No one is forced to do these things, but it's there if you want it. Again these aren't one off hot tunes... Any of us can run these ANY TIME we wish to. It's just what you get in the package.

I'm looking to go 10.0-10.1 stock turbo cutting 1.48-1.51 60's at over 135 MPH eventually....

I have more weight reduction coming (daily stuff, not anything extreme) coupled with better 60's, a lower DA and the turbo inlet pipe.... I EASILY have room to go faster then I already have.

Plus the Iroz/CC community all together just rocks. Really a great bunch of people.

[saxon]

With the stage 2 ECU and TCU my shifts were butter smooth, hence the record breaking pass.

We tried a higher launch RPM near the end and just needed to tweak the shift points a bit. Starting cutting nasty 60's but I only had time for two passes. Had a revision to smooth out the shifting but ran out of time at the track. Another pass or two and we would have had it.

That's the thing about CC. They nail down these files and release them to every CC customer to run anytime they want. Want a road course tune? Cool... Street tune? Got it. Drag race tune, it's there. No one is forced to do these things, but it's there if you want it. Again these aren't one off hot tunes... Any of us can run these ANY TIME we wish to. It's just what you get in the package.

I'm looking to go 10.0-10.1 stock turbo cutting 1.48-1.51 60's at over 135 MPH eventually....

I have more weight reduction coming (daily stuff, not anything extreme) coupled with better 60's, a lower DA and the turbo inlet pipe.... I EASILY have room to go faster then I already have.

Plus the Iroz/CC community all together just rocks. Really a great bunch of people.

whats the part number for the Braille battery that you run?

[TTRSleeper]

With the stage 2 ECU and TCU my shifts were butter smooth, hence the record breaking pass.

We tried a higher launch RPM near the end and just needed to tweak the shift points a bit. Starting cutting nasty 60's but I only had time for two passes. Had a revision to smooth out the shifting but ran out of time at the track. Another pass or two and we would have had it.

That's the thing about CC. They nail down these files and release them to every CC customer to run anytime they want. Want a road course tune? Cool... Street tune? Got it. Drag race tune, it's there. No one is forced to do these things, but it's there if you want it. Again these aren't one off hot tunes... Any of us can run these ANY TIME we wish to. It's just what you get in the package.

I'm looking to go 10.0-10.1 stock turbo cutting 1.48-1.51 60's at over 135 MPH eventually....

I have more weight reduction coming (daily stuff, not anything extreme) coupled with better 60's, a lower DA and the turbo inlet pipe.... I EASILY have room to go faster then I already have.

Plus the Iroz/CC community all together just rocks. Really a great bunch of people.

How come a lot of the CC ethanol guys are only running E65-E70 and not closer to E80-85? is it because the ethanol combined with the hardware modifications (intercooler, intake, downpipe, open exhaust etc) comes close to maxing out the fuel system so rather than risk it for maybe an extra 5-10 HP on E80-E85, you guys run the E65-E70 to play it safe?

I know you say these aren't one off hot tunes, but do you think someone who isn't local to Iroz could still get the ethanol ECU tune you and ns2g8tr run? What about the beta TCU tune that you have which yielded the 1.51 60' with the higher LC RPM? Would that be available too? Thanks man.

[Rocketsauce16]

How come a lot of the CC ethanol guys are only running E65-E70 and not closer to E80-85? is it because the ethanol combined with the hardware modifications (intercooler, intake, downpipe, open exhaust etc) comes close to maxing out the fuel system so rather than risk it for maybe an extra 5-10 HP on E80-E85, you guys run the E65-E70 to play it safe?

What about the beta TCU tune that you have which yielded the 1.51 60' with the higher LC RPM? Would that be available too? Thanks man.

—Yes, now I’m Stage 1 E85 which the fueling allows for but with Stage 2 they are close to maxing out. Iroz does have a injector upgrade I believe. I think more power is made at e70 where other tuners probably are doing full e85 for convenience or they are pulling power from what I understand.
—The TCU is only a Beta in that you have to see hank for him to flash it. Not available through flashwire.. Yet.. 2 weeks lol.




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[comingabriel]

2018 Audi RS3
10.553 @ 127.62
APR ECU
Stock TCU
Stage 1
E85
Toyo R888s
Seats out
+100' DA
10-26-17
Timeslip: https://www.goapr.com/news/wp-conten...7/10/slips.png

2018 Audi RS3
10.769 @ 125.61
APR ECU
Stock TCU
Stage 1
E85
Toyo R888s
Full interior
+125' DA
10-26-17
Timeslip: https://www.goapr.com/news/wp-conten...7/10/slips.png

Rear seat, top section, is friggen heavy, esp the larger one.
Gotta pull it out and put in a brace or something really light.
Wheels dropped some weight.
Rotors are next (second hand carbon?)
IM could have been plastic, why a heavier cast?
Catless DP, 100 cell catted midpipes (or catless if I go E85), lighter muffler (if ever one is made, titanium/akro?, AWE was heavy on the Golf 7R).
Front seats SUCK. So wide and heavy, made for a big person?
Golf R seats were snuggier, but not as good material or looks. Options? TTRS have the same big arse seats?

[Cbhoy24]

2018 Audi TTRS

10.750 @ 132.7mph
6.97 @ 103.9mph
1.76 - 60ft

APR Stage 1
Stock TCU
Sunoco E85R
Stock 20" Wheels with 255/30/20 PZero's
Mods - Forge FMIC, K&N Panel Filter, 4" FR DP
Weight - Full Weight
DA - Unsure, it's not something we monitor here in the UK. Track is 30m (100ft) elevation above sea level, Temp was 19c (65f) Pressure was 30.1 HG and Dew Point was 55 according to the weather charts. Humidity around 70%
July 1st 2018
Proof of the run -



Can be verified through the dragstrip result page too :-

https://www.crailraceway.co.uk/wp/class-results/

I have also run a 10.98 at 127.8mph with APR Stage 1 93 octane file although not on the dragstrip, on Dragy. (This was with an atrocious 1.87 60ft)

If I get some track wheels and tyres and strip some weight out, I'm sure the Stage 1 APR tune will drop it below 10.5. Add in the Stage 2 and the TCU then probably a 10.3 thereabouts.

[TTRSleeper]

2018 Audi TTRS

10.750 @ 132.7mph
6.97 @ 103.9mph
1.76 - 60ft

APR Stage 1
Stock TCU
Sunoco E85R
Stock 20" Wheels with 255/30/20 PZero's
Mods - Forge FMIC, K&N Panel Filter, 4" FR DP
Weight - Full Weight
DA - Unsure, it's not something we monitor here in the UK. Track is 30m (100ft) elevation above sea level, Temp was 19c (65f) Pressure was 30.1 HG and Dew Point was 55 according to the weather charts. Humidity around 70%
July 1st 2018
Proof of the run -



Can be verified through the dragstrip result page too :-

https://www.crailraceway.co.uk/wp/class-results/

I have also run a 10.98 at 127.8mph with APR Stage 1 93 octane file although not on the dragstrip, on Dragy. (This was with an atrocious 1.87 60ft)

If I get some track wheels and tyres and strip some weight out, I'm sure the Stage 1 APR tune will drop it below 10.5. Add in the Stage 2 and the TCU then probably a 10.3 thereabouts.

Congrats on the run! Have you done any data logging with your setup? The reason I ask is because with the Sunoco E85R (exactly 85% ethanol content) and your hardware mods, you've gotta be really close to maxing out the stock fuel system. APR's dyno run for their E85 tune was performed with E70. Just something you may want to consider looking into because these engines aren't cheap!

[Cbhoy24]

Congrats on the run! Have you done any data logging with your setup? The reason I ask is because with the Sunoco E85R (exactly 85% ethanol content) and your hardware mods, you've gotta be really close to maxing out the stock fuel system. APR's dyno run for their E85 tune was performed with E70. Just something you may want to consider looking into because these engines aren't cheap!

I haven’t done any logging with VCDS but the APR Dealer did with the 93 and the fuel trims were very good.

I did 20 or so drag runs on Sunday on E85R and not a hiccup.

However, I have had a few misfires when testing the 93 tune on low level fuel. With a range of less than 30 miles in the tank and under a launched run I first seen a misfire at 6500rpm in the 3-4 change. About 200rpm before it changes up there is a ‘brick wall’ that it goes through and changes to 4th at 6700. The run through 4th and into 5th is fine.

Out of about 15 runs on the road from 30m range down to 0, it happened in about 10 of those runs. Only ever 3-4 6500rpm. At the time I didn’t know what was happening and as it kept accelerating cleanly in 4th through to 5th I didn’t think it was due to low fuel. If you know your Audi’s you will know that there is a gallon of fuel still in the tank past 0. So at the time I wasn’t worried about the low fuel range.

I couldn’t get it to do it running through 3rd to 4th on the road though (not from launch) - This suggests that the fuel is thrown back to the back of the tank during a 1st gear launch and by the time 3-4 shift comes, it missfires.

VCDS scan showed no misfire codes but I’ve got a clean run and the 3-4 misfire run on video and others have suggested it’s because of low fuel. When I filled it back up to half a tank, the issue did not present itself again.

The same thing happened on one E85 drag run when the range went to 30 miles left. Same 3-4 6500rpm issue.

I may of course be wrong with the low fuel explanation but that’s what I’ve figured. The APR Stage 1 doesn’t have a TCU tune yet so initially thought it would be related to that.

With your suggestion, not enough fuel would just surely give a small misfire rather than totalling the engine? You would get a prior warning I would think. For me the fact it never happened again when fuel content was high has convinced me that the issue I’ve spotted is related to fuel content low.

I have heard it happens in the RS7 when those guys run low on fuel too. Also spoke to another 8S TTRS owner who has reported the same.

[Cbhoy24]

For sure though when I go back for APR Stage 2 I’ll get the guys to log the fuel trims on E85R map

[TTRSleeper]

Yeah that's the ECU cutting power due to not enough fuel pressure and is probably unrelated to my concern that you may be maxing out the stock fuel system. When you run low on fuel quantity and launch the car, the g-forces can cause the fuel to shift creating that condition. It has happened a dozen or so times on my S6 and is quite annoying, especially when you're running expensive race gas because you always need to make sure you have plenty of it in the tank. I believe this affects all Audis, VWs, etc. that have both high pressure and low pressure fuel pumps. The fix is to just run with more fuel but as you know a lot of people like to run with as little fuel as possible as it saves weight.

I'd definitely data log your car on the E85R just for peace of mind. I know on even just E70 these cars are already near the limitation of the stock LPFP and injectors. Now you're going from E70 to E85 and you've also added hardware bolt ons. Both of those will use even more fuel so it's just something to keep an eye on.

What's the FR downpipe? Do you have a link to it?

I haven’t done any logging with VCDS but the APR Dealer did with the 93 and the fuel trims were very good.

I did 20 or so drag runs on Sunday on E85R and not a hiccup.

However, I have had a few misfires when testing the 93 tune on low level fuel. With a range of less than 30 miles in the tank and under a launched run I first seen a misfire at 6500rpm in the 3-4 change. About 200rpm before it changes up there is a ‘brick wall’ that it goes through and changes to 4th at 6700. The run through 4th and into 5th is fine.

Out of about 15 runs on the road from 30m range down to 0, it happened in about 10 of those runs. Only ever 3-4 6500rpm. At the time I didn’t know what was happening and as it kept accelerating cleanly in 4th through to 5th I didn’t think it was due to low fuel. If you know your Audi’s you will know that there is a gallon of fuel still in the tank past 0. So at the time I wasn’t worried about the low fuel range.

I couldn’t get it to do it running through 3rd to 4th on the road though (not from launch) - This suggests that the fuel is thrown back to the back of the tank during a 1st gear launch and by the time 3-4 shift comes, it missfires.

VCDS scan showed no misfire codes but I’ve got a clean run and the 3-4 misfire run on video and others have suggested it’s because of low fuel. When I filled it back up to half a tank, the issue did not present itself again.

The same thing happened on one E85 drag run when the range went to 30 miles left. Same 3-4 6500rpm issue.

I may of course be wrong with the low fuel explanation but that’s what I’ve figured. The APR Stage 1 doesn’t have a TCU tune yet so initially thought it would be related to that.

With your suggestion, not enough fuel would just surely give a small misfire rather than totalling the engine? You would get a prior warning I would think. For me the fact it never happened again when fuel content was high has convinced me that the issue I’ve spotted is related to fuel content low.

I have heard it happens in the RS7 when those guys run low on fuel too. Also spoke to another 8S TTRS owner who has reported the same.

[Cbhoy24]

Yes, it’s a Polish company called Frog Racing. They are active on Facebook. Handbuilt and top quality. 4” down to 2 x 2.75” and mates to the existing Audi decat pipes

I believe US cars have the 2nd cats. In the U.K. Europe and Australia, we have a 2nd cat bypass pipe from Audi directly.

It’s not tuned for on the APR Stage 1 file though and no idea when they are releasing their Stage 2

[JsnMR2]

How come a lot of the CC ethanol guys are only running E65-E70 and not closer to E80-85? is it because the ethanol combined with the hardware modifications (intercooler, intake, downpipe, open exhaust etc) comes close to maxing out the fuel system so rather than risk it for maybe an extra 5-10 HP on E80-E85, you guys run the E65-E70 to play it safe?

I know you say these aren't one off hot tunes, but do you think someone who isn't local to Iroz could still get the ethanol ECU tune you and ns2g8tr run? What about the beta TCU tune that you have which yielded the 1.51 60' with the higher LC RPM? Would that be available too? Thanks man.

CC is not comfortable at this time Full E85 on stage 2 tunes. The fuel requirement is higher on stage 2 cars and it's just pushing the stock injectors too far for comfort. They do offer full E85 stage 1 now. 486 WHP I believe.

I'm not local to Hank at all. Anyone can literally flash these files to their car anytime they wish at home. It's just part of what you get in the Iroz/CC package. As for the TCU tune, again you'll be able to flash that at home. It's on the server for all of us, but they're still wrapping up the tool for everyone. Almost done!

[PeteJ]

2017
Audi
RS3
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
93 Octane
Street/PS4S
None
945 ft
Oct 26 2017
Timeslip sent via PM
60' 1.726
330' 4.983
1/8 7.703
1/8 mph 91.66
1000' 10.078
1/4 12.091
1/4 mph 112.47

[PeteJ]

For those that are looking for a good source to find the DA check this out...http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...calculator.php

[TTRSleeper]

2017
Audi
RS3
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
93 Octane
Street/PS4S
None
945 ft
Oct 26 2017
Timeslip sent via PM
60' 1.726
330' 4.983
1/8 7.703
1/8 mph 91.66
1000' 10.078
1/4 12.091
1/4 mph 112.47

Nice run. How many miles are on your car?

[saxon]

2017
Audi
RS3
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
93 Octane
Street/PS4S
None
945 ft
Oct 26 2017
Timeslip sent via PM
60' 1.726
330' 4.983
1/8 7.703
1/8 mph 91.66
1000' 10.078
1/4 12.091
1/4 mph 112.47

updated!

thanks Pete

[PeteJ]

Nice run. How many miles are on your car?

When I ran those it had less than 2000 miles, now it has 9500 (just about ready to go in for the 10k service). Some interesting things about that night....

With a passenger (assume 200 pounds) ran 12.379 @110.98...this shows the impact of weight reduction on these cars
Without using launch control it ran [email protected] with a 2.115 60' this shows how much the 60' times affect the 1/4 mile time

I'm mentioning this for those that don't drag race regularly. The net is that comparing a 1/4 mile time to another without knowing all the details can be meaningless.

Thanks Brian for asking all the relevant details!!!

[saxon]

updated