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    Junior Member Two Rings
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    Code 16891

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    Drove the car for an hour commute out of town and installed a short shifter with a friend and drove it back the next day. Me and the girlfriend decided to get food and im on my way home and all of a sudden i had to stop ahead and i put it into first and shift into second and all of a sudden i cannot push the gas or when i can its just surging. Im not in limp mode but the cars idle is just EVERYWHERE. I had to push the car a couple blocks back into my garage and i turned it back on and the smell of gas is so strong. Ive never seen anything like this before. I have the codes

    16891
    17861 (i knew about this one previously)
    17865 (also knew about this one previously)

    Ive been slowing fixing every CEL light i can before i start putting go fast mods in like any sane human being should. Im looking for advice about what im looking to start throwing money at now cause i know thats whats gunna have to happen If anyone has any ideas please suggest them. Discuss. Debate. Yell at me for buying an audi. I have done a search on the forums but the possibilities are all over the place. If a video will help of whats going on i can post one as well. Although i may cry because of the noises its making

    Thanks in advance guys!

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    Senior Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Feb 21 2012
    AZ Member #
    88576
    My Garage
    MB S55 - (607hp/671tq), Suzuki GSXR 1000
    Location
    Chico/CA

    Taken directly from Ross Tech.

    16891/P0507/001287 - Idle Control System RPM: Higher than Expected.
    Possible Symptoms
    Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) active
    Possible Causes
    Throttle Valve Control Module (J338) dirty/faulty
    Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Throttle Valve Control Module (J338)
    Vacuum Leak
    Possible Solutions
    Check Throttle Valve Control Module (J338)
    Check Wiring/Connector(s) from/to Throttle Valve Control Module (J338)
    Check Intake System for Leaks
    Special Notes
    When found in the NAR 2.0T (BPY) check RVUTB: 01-09-03 or 2018919 for updated Crankcase Breather Valve
    If the breather valve is faulty, full engine vacuum is typically found when removing the oil cap at idle.
    When found in NAR (North American Region) 2011-2013 Jetta, Golf, Passat and New Beetle vehicles with 2.5L engine codes CBTA and CBUA see TSB 01-14-23 -or- TPI 2034012. When applicable, DTCs P050A, P0507 and P0106 are resolved after flash updating the Engine controller.

    17863/P1455 - Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235): Implausible Signal
    Possible Symptoms
    Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) ON
    Possible Causes
    Fuse(s) faulty
    Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235) faulty
    Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235) faulty
    Possible Solutions
    Check Fuse(s)
    Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235)
    Check/Replace Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 1 (G235)
    Special Notes
    Failure of this sensor in the NAR market BBW 2.0L engine is common. That engine was found in the 2004 - 2005 VW Golf/Jetta/Bora (1J/9M) chassis.

    17865/66- (found on the internet) Exhaust Gas Temp Sensor 2 (G236): Short to Ground
    Possible Symptoms
    Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) ON
    Possible Causes
    Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor 2 (G236) faulty
    Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor 2 (G236) faulty
    Possible Solutions
    Check Wiring and/or Connector(s) from/to Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor 2 (G236)
    Check/Replace Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor 2 (G236)
    2000 Laser Red Stage III+

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    Junior Member Two Rings
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    AZ Member #
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    Location
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    I looked them up on rosstech already and had started going down the list of things last night when it happened. Im just looking for more insight if anyone else has had this issue

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