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    Revo Tuned RS3 Hits the States!

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    With extensive global testing from Revo dealers, Revo is ready to release their tuning for the RS3 and TTRS for the Americas.

    We had the privledge to flash the first production file to an RS3 here in California, on 91 octane fuel.

    The car is stock, other than a set of Milltek mid pipe bypasses.





    Measured on a Mustang 4 wheel dyno, temperature was around 80* F, and the fans were a little smaller than we are familiar with seeing. Dynos were done back to back.


    Stock 339hp 309tq

    Revo 361hp 336tq


    Overall the car is much more powerful than stock. Power doesn't seem to fall off in the mid to high RPM range, it goes all the way to redline. Low end feels to have improved well, power comes on much better and a little quicker than stock.

    We also measured a 3.36 second 0-60mph Vbox run after the software!


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    A few more details:

    • Power: 455 - 490 PS (Fuel Dependant)
    • Torque: 565 - 590 NM.
    • Fueling Options: 91, 91 Low Boost, 93, 93 Low Boost, Race.
    • SPS Switchable: Stock and 3 Performance Modes.
    • Left Foot Braking - Enabled.
    • Speed Limit - Unlocked.
    • Cold Start Protection - Oil Temperature based rev limit.
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    • RPM Limit Increased (7100RPM) – Limited until oil temperature reaches 60ºC
    • Calibrated Power & Torque Gauges – Full power shown when engine reaches full power.
    • Improved Sports Mode – Exhaust valves are fully open in Sports Mode.
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    Battery tender hooked up!




    Flash Begins








    Filling up on 91 octane Shell V-Power



    On the Mustang awd rollers




    The plot. Stock versus Revo Stage 1.



    And a quick 0-60mph Vbox Sprint on stage 1. Not too shabby!





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    3.3 sec on crappy 91 fuel. Wow that's impressive.

    Looking forward to seeing results on the more common 95 octane .





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    Always like Revo tunes had a few on my older Audi's, nice work guys!
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    Congrats on the numbers and am glad you shared the heartbreaker dyno numbers. Get that badboy on the track to show what can be done.

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    Only +22whp? What am I missing here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    Only +22whp? What am I missing here?
    Glad someone mentioned this. It does seem low doesn't it even on 91. The torque doesn't look like a big improvement either.

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    I think the combo of Mustang Dyno (heartbreaker) and 91 factors in. Regardless, good to see another tune out.

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    dynojets typically read 11-14% higher than mustang dynos. so 339/.89=380HP stock and 361/.89=405HP revo

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    It was the deltas that I was referring to.

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    TD1?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shivaswrath View Post
    TD1?


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    I was under the impression that no matter what flash method is used, potential TD1s will always be an issue because the flash count and hash are going to be different than the private OEM Audi ECU hashes.

    Unless you're using some kind of piggyback, I don't see how any tuner could get around this unless they can beat the current ECU software detection methods.
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    Wow, this is pretty sad. I always imagined and expected tunes for these cars to unleash at least 50-60whp even at 91. I wonder if the stock turbocharger is the limiting factor.


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    Can anyone translate those values to the german Horsepower values? Stock is 400PS

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonm View Post
    Can anyone translate those values to the german Horsepower values? Stock is 400PS
    Absolute values are irrelevant since numbers vary from dyno to dyno. It’s the increase from the tune that is marginal and disappointing.


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    Revo Tuned RS3 Hits the States!

    Well assuming the car should be 400 you can take the wheel horsepower +18%. This is just to give you a ballpark for crank power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanix9 View Post
    3.3 sec on crappy 91 fuel. Wow that's impressive.

    Looking forward to seeing results on the more common 95 octane .





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    Quote Originally Posted by seanix9 View Post
    3.3 sec on crappy 91 fuel. Wow that's impressive.

    Looking forward to seeing results on the more common 95 octane .

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    You might be confused with the fuel ratings. 91 oct in the USA is 95 in Europe. 93 oct gas in the USA is equal to the 98 premium gas in Europe. You don't have to remind me that you are in Australia, I already know. Probably (my guess) is that your 95 oct gas is what the 91oct gas is in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3DUDE View Post
    You might be confused with the fuel ratings. 91 oct in the USA is 95 in Europe. 93 oct gas in the USA is equal to the 98 premium gas in Europe. You don't have to remind me that you are in Australia, I already know. Probably (my guess) is that your 95 oct gas is what the 91oct gas is in the USA.
    My apologies, that was my typo, I am referring to 98ron which is the common fuel we use.

    Was I reminding U that I was from Aus, hmm I thought I was responding to the OP




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    Quote Originally Posted by 97B518TQM View Post
    Wow, this is pretty sad. I always imagined and expected tunes for these cars to unleash at least 50-60whp even at 91. I wonder if the stock turbocharger is the limiting factor.

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    Definitely not. The stock turbo is capable of far more power. Stage 2 (plus E85) with the new IE intake is making 500+ at the wheels.
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    I don't even know how they are going to compete with that low of a number?? What ever the start was why is the delta still only 22 hp...?

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    I agree. Revo's tunes are getting weaker and weaker. You might as well go for a piggy back with more gains and less chance of a TD1 status. How has it taken a year to add 30hp?

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    I find it a bit strange that revo would achieve such low numbers so lets play with them a bit.
    Fist lets use 18% drive train loss for the Mustang dyno and see what the result will give.

    339hp/0,82 = 413hp
    361hp/0,82 = 440hp
    Now we have a 27hp delta

    Comparing to say like Unitronic stage 1 which have a stock dyno reading at 438hp and a tuned 91oct at 476hp we get a delta of 38hp.

    So now the revo numbers looks a bit better but still missing 11hp compared to Unitronic.
    When looking at the revo dyno result it looks like the stock numbers are equal to the tuned numbers at around 6000rpm which also is a bit strange

    Looking at revos home page (www.onlyrevo.com) I don't see any info atm for the 400hp RS3 so perhaps they are not yet ready for a official release?

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    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    I find it a bit strange that revo would achieve such low numbers so lets play with them a bit.
    Fist lets use 18% drive train loss for the Mustang dyno and see what the result will give.

    339hp/0,82 = 413hp
    361hp/0,82 = 440hp
    Now we have a 27hp delta

    Comparing to say like Unitronic stage 1 which have a stock dyno reading at 438hp and a tuned 91oct at 476hp we get a delta of 38hp.

    So now the revo numbers looks a bit better but still missing 11hp compared to Unitronic.
    When looking at the revo dyno result it looks like the stock numbers are equal to the tuned numbers at around 6000rpm which also is a bit strange

    Looking at revos home page (www.onlyrevo.com) I don't see any info atm for the 400hp RS3 so perhaps they are not yet ready for a official release?
    Good point it might not even be official numbers yet. But the torque is the most disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    When looking at the revo dyno result it looks like the stock numbers are equal to the tuned numbers at around 6000rpm which also is a bit strange
    Right, and in a 1/4 mile or Mexico race you spend the majority of your time around this RPM range, so is the average gain in that situation only 15hp? Hopefully it just some anomaly in the dyno measurement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYEuroTuner View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanix9 View Post
    3.3 sec on crappy 91 fuel. Wow that's impressive.

    Looking forward to seeing results on the more common 95 octane .





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    Revo has quite a few cars out in Europe that are nailing down great numbers for the higher quality fuel. I think you will be impressed!


    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    Only +22whp? What am I missing here?
    Quote Originally Posted by pez81 View Post
    Glad someone mentioned this. It does seem low doesn't it even on 91. The torque doesn't look like a big improvement either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shivaswrath View Post
    TD1?


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    Too new to confirm, but we have had fine results with other vehicles by flashing back to stock before any visits to a dealer... Better yet, if you are local to us in SoCal, we are full service, repair, and maintenance center as well; just use the dealer for car purchases and manufacture warranty claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by 97B518TQM View Post
    Wow, this is pretty sad. I always imagined and expected tunes for these cars to unleash at least 50-60whp even at 91. I wonder if the stock turbocharger is the limiting factor.


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    Fuel and charge cooling are the limiting factors based off data logs. The turbocharger has more room!


    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    I find it a bit strange that revo would achieve such low numbers so lets play with them a bit.
    Fist lets use 18% drive train loss for the Mustang dyno and see what the result will give.

    339hp/0,82 = 413hp
    361hp/0,82 = 440hp
    Now we have a 27hp delta

    Comparing to say like Unitronic stage 1 which have a stock dyno reading at 438hp and a tuned 91oct at 476hp we get a delta of 38hp.

    So now the revo numbers looks a bit better but still missing 11hp compared to Unitronic.
    When looking at the revo dyno result it looks like the stock numbers are equal to the tuned numbers at around 6000rpm which also is a bit strange

    Looking at revos home page (www.onlyrevo.com) I don't see any info atm for the 400hp RS3 so perhaps they are not yet ready for a official release?
    With numbers being so close, there are still different factors involved that could make one outshine the other. (Different dynos being used will be the biggest factor.)


    Quote Originally Posted by pez81 View Post
    Good point it might not even be official numbers yet. But the torque is the most disappointing.

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    Drag strip mph with reported weather conditions will be the tell as to how well it compares.
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    IMHO, Revo is not even a millisecond of thought or consideration for my 70k$ car.
    As well as IE, UM, or APR.

    My friend had their tune on his MK6 R, and after seeing his logs, I insisted he ditch it asap and went UM, ironically those logs, omg, were horrible, but it was powerful, but Tyrolsport should have tweaked it, instead of flashing it, calling it good, and said you're good to go.

    God forgive me, I don't like being anything that may be a tiny, hopefully none, impact on food on their employees table.
    I do suggest everyone who goes Revo, log and know how/what to log.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteJ View Post
    Drag strip mph with reported weather conditions will be the tell as to how well it compares.
    This is right!

    Quote Originally Posted by comingabriel View Post
    IMHO, Revo is not even a millisecond of thought or consideration for my 70k$ car.
    As well as IE, UM, or APR.

    My friend had their tune on his MK6 R, and after seeing his logs, I insisted he ditch it asap and went UM, ironically those logs, omg, were horrible, but it was powerful, but Tyrolsport should have tweaked it, instead of flashing it, calling it good, and said you're good to go.

    God forgive me, I don't like being anything that may be a tiny, hopefully none, impact on food on their employees table.
    I do suggest everyone who goes Revo, log and know how/what to log.
    Sorry to hear of your friend's experience. I don't think I remember seeing the guys at Tyrolsport being a Revo dealer. Are you certain? Perhaps it was another tuner. We had an in house MK6 R purchased brand new in 2012 that also ran one of the first Revo 91 octane maps. These cars had an older ecu, and it was up to the dealers to run data logs and fine tune the map settings for optimal performance. Ours had ran fantastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by comingabriel View Post
    IMHO, Revo is not even a millisecond of thought or consideration for my 70k$ car.
    As well as IE, UM, or APR.

    My friend had their tune on his MK6 R, and after seeing his logs, I insisted he ditch it asap and went UM, ironically those logs, omg, were horrible, but it was powerful, but Tyrolsport should have tweaked it, instead of flashing it, calling it good, and said you're good to go.

    God forgive me, I don't like being anything that may be a tiny, hopefully none, impact on food on their employees table.
    I do suggest everyone who goes Revo, log and know how/what to log.
    I'm curious on why you are so active with negativity on all tuners, yet you say you wouldn't even consider any of them?
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    Now this is more like it :)

    Looks like they have full SPS box support with 3 performance programs for 95, 98 and 100ron and also the opportunity to set back to stock.

    stock: 0-60 mph - 3.85 sec
    revo : 0-60 mph - 3.38 sec



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    Product page live from Revo!

    http://www.onlyrevo.com/product-deta...eid=c4841c4cdd

    A few more details:

    • Power: 455 - 490 PS (Fuel Dependant)
    • Torque: 565 - 590 NM.
    • Fueling Options: 91, 91 Low Boost, 93, 93 Low Boost, Race.
    • SPS Switchable: Stock and 3 Performance Modes.
    • Left Foot Braking - Enabled.
    • Speed Limit - Unlocked.
    • Cold Start Protection - Oil Temperature based rev limit.
    • Temperature Protection. – Re-calibrated thermostatic control to optimise engine cooling
    • Optimatised Launch Control.
    • RPM Limit Increased (7100RPM) – Limited until oil temperature reaches 60ºC
    • Calibrated Power & Torque Gauges – Full power shown when engine reaches full power.
    • Improved Sports Mode – Exhaust valves are fully open in Sports Mode.
    • OBD Install.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PacificGerman View Post
    Product page live from Revo!

    http://www.onlyrevo.com/product-deta...eid=c4841c4cdd

    A few more details:

    •Power: 455 - 490 PS (Fuel Dependant)
    •Torque: 565 - 590 NM.
    •Fueling Options: 91, 91 Low Boost, 93, 93 Low Boost, Race.
    •SPS Switchable: Stock and 3 Performance Modes.
    •Left Foot Braking - Enabled.
    •Speed Limit - Unlocked.
    •Cold Start Protection - Oil Temperature based rev limit.
    •Temperature Protection. – Re-calibrated thermostatic control to optimise engine cooling
    •Optimatised Launch Control.
    • RPM Limit Increased (7100RPM) – Limited until oil temperature reaches 60ºC
    •Calibrated Power & Torque Gauges – Full power shown when engine reaches full power.
    •Improved Sports Mode – Exhaust valves are fully open in Sports Mode.
    •OBD Install.

    Very solid features and good power output. Congrats!

    So would I go to your place to get it tuned once and I can switch between maps without visiting other shops again? Is the map switching done via computer after initial tuning?


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    Quote Originally Posted by J_3_f_f View Post
    So would I go to your place to get it tuned once and I can switch between maps without visiting other shops again? Is the map switching done via computer after initial tuning?
    You will have to use the SPS box to do map switching.
    You set the SPS box to the program you want and then connect it to the obd port. It takes only like 1 sec to do the switching so as far as I know all programs are already on the ecu and you only activate one of them with the SPS.
    The only downside using this compared to like APR is that you have to purchase the SPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_3_f_f View Post
    Very solid features and good power output. Congrats!

    So would I go to your place to get it tuned once and I can switch between maps without visiting other shops again? Is the map switching done via computer after initial tuning?


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    Yes it is very straightforward. You will need the Revo SPS device as said above to switch maps. This can be purchased along with your tune, later down the line, shared with friends, etc. We stock these.



    However do note, the stock map in the SPS is a stock map, not a stock file. If you need to visit the dealer, it is recommended to have the car flashed back to stock first.

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    Jul 15 2013
    AZ Member #
    118994
    My Garage
    2017RS3-2014TTS-1967Olds442-2005Chevy2500HD-Duramax%2520
    Location
    Waukesha/wi

    I have an SPS box for sale if someone is interested pm me and shoot me an offer...I used it on S4 which was totaled, worked awesome for me at the time.
    The "Go Fast" Car.....
    369" of Oldsmobile power by Rocket Racing
    best of 9.68 @ 136 mph and a 1.242 60'
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