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    Why do coilovers cost $550 - 1700???

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    What's the difference between all the coilovers???Screenshot_20180611-132527.jpgScreenshot_20180611-132728.jpg

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    adjustments. ride quality.
    If you have to ask, you're probably best off with just some solowerks tbh
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    Some coilovers are developed and constructed by actual suspension tuning companies that test them not just on computers and shock dynos but on test vehicles.

    Other companies source their parts based on specs they think should work from factories overseas.

    The BorChuann factory and im sure others like it are known for making tons and tons of "32 way", "16-way", etc etc adjustable coilovers that are very low quality. They make them for dozens and dozens of fly by night "brands." You can literally contact their factory and as long as you will order 100 units you can have your own "brand" of coilover made from them. Pick a color that hasnt already been used and boom... you're a coilover company. I would pick a company that has much more experience and a better reputation for quality as well as a longer warranty.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossida1 View Post
    What's the difference between all the coilovers???
    Based on your post I'm going to guess you're just looking for a quality street suspension. Avoid the cheap brands like Solowerks, Raceland etc... They don't use quality components and are a great case of "you get what you pay for".

    I recommend looking into any of these basic entry-level non adjustable [rebound + compression] setups- H&R, KW V1s, Vogtlands, STs. Vogtland and STs are cheaper as they both have galvanized shock bodies vs stainless for the others- more prone to corrosion, but they use quality dampers and springs nonetheless (KW dampers in both cases). These are all quality options with reputable components and manufacturers.
    -Hayden


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    Veteran Member Four Rings Audibot's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnarrrrr View Post
    If you have to ask, you're probably best off with just some solowerks tbh
    That's a piss poor answer. Some people legitimately do not know what goes into developing quality suspension, or the reasoning behind the large price discrepancy. The OP just joined AZ a few months ago.


    Quote Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post
    Based on your post I'm going to guess you're just looking for a quality street suspension. Avoid the cheap brands like Solowerks, Raceland etc... They don't use quality components and are a great case of "you get what you pay for".

    I recommend looking into any of these basic entry-level non adjustable [rebound + compression] setups- H&R, KW V1s, Vogtlands, STs. Vogtland and STs are cheaper as they both have galvanized shock bodies vs stainless for the others- more prone to corrosion, but they use quality dampers and springs nonetheless (KW dampers in both cases). These are all quality options with reputable components and manufacturers.
    While not on a B8, I've had H&R and Vogtland on my B7 and either are great. The Vogtland setup from Achtuning was perfect on my B7, I thought.
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    I have the ST coils and for what's it's worth I think there just right. I've used them for 20k plus miles with no issues, I did get a few noises coming from them but grease did the job.

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    Iíve heard nothing negative about solowerks except from people who had purchased higher-ed coils and decided to share their opinion. On some threads Iíve heard people say theyíre softer that STís and that would be a little more practical for a daily driver or somebody on more of a budget.


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    Saw somewhere before that a few of the brands also have more stout compression rods in the front coilovers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCloud199 View Post
    Iíve heard nothing negative about solowerks except from people who had purchased higher-ed coils and decided to share their opinion. On some threads Iíve heard people say theyíre softer that STís and that would be a little more practical for a daily driver or somebody on more of a budget.


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    I've had mine for several years and I'm dumping them. They have rusted to the point where they aren't adjustable. With that being said they do provide a pretty comfortable ride. Just wish I had gone with a better static solution in the first place. Enter the b12 cup kit.
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    Iíve had H&R all almost all my cars. Absolutely love them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post
    Based on your post I'm going to guess you're just looking for a quality street suspension. Avoid the cheap brands like Solowerks, Raceland etc... They don't use quality components and are a great case of "you get what you pay for".

    I recommend looking into any of these basic entry-level non adjustable [rebound + compression] setups- H&R, KW V1s, Vogtlands, STs. Vogtland and STs are cheaper as they both have galvanized shock bodies vs stainless for the others- more prone to corrosion, but they use quality dampers and springs nonetheless (KW dampers in both cases). These are all quality options with reputable components and manufacturers.

    When you say non-adjustable, isn't that the point of coilovers because I want to be able to adjust the height from time to time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossida1 View Post
    When you say non-adjustable, isn't that the point of coilovers because I want to be able to adjust the height from time to time...
    Height is adjustable, just not rebound and compression damping. That's what you get on the pricier coilovers- Bilstein PSS10s, KW V2/V3, etc... Not really necessary for most people's needs on the street.
    -Hayden


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    Good coilover systems allow you keep the same shock/strut travel regardless of how low you want the car to sit, cheaper ones do not.

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    Gotchya! Has anyone heard of V-Max XXREME coilovers? Or is that just one of those shirt brands?

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    Sounds like one of those shirt brands


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    bc racing may have the adjustable shock bodies but dont quote me on that, ecs tuning has a pretty wide selection

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    I'm on kw v1s. One big consideration is the material they're made from, especially if you drive in winter/salty conditions.

    My v1s are quite firm and have had complaints that the car rides less comfortably, although I personally love it.

    I would also recommend going with the well known brands. If you get something cheap it will cost you down the road.


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    If you shop around and have some patience you can score a lightly used set of quality coilovers for the same price as a cheaper new set. I bought my H&R Streets off a member for $600ish (about half price than new) and they are money well spent. With more reputable/higher end companies you get a better build quality and more R&D testing to make sure they are perfectly matched for each application.
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    Thank you everyone! I really appreciate all the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rossida1 View Post
    Thank you everyone! I really appreciate all the feedback.
    Also, if you think you're going to change your ride height "from time to time" then you're probably mistaken or probably should look at bags. I've had to change my rear setup once in the past 13 years and that is because I changed my wheels/tires, and needed the clearance. You'd be surprised how you'll set it to what you like and then probably never touch them again.
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    I had $3500 coilovers on my old car. I laugh when people complain about good quality coilovers being $1000 and opt for just lowering springs, then complain again when their shocks blow. Good stuff.

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    For those that have changed from stock, on a car with 40k+ miles, did you buy new strut/shock mounts? Adjustable control arms?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JLAllroad View Post
    For those that have changed from stock, on a car with 40k+ miles, did you buy new strut/shock mounts? Adjustable control arms?


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    I wouls strongly advise against adjustable control arms. You can minimize wear problems adjusting toe not camber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLAllroad View Post
    For those that have changed from stock, on a car with 40k+ miles, did you buy new strut/shock mounts? Adjustable control arms?


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    I put coilovers on my B7 at more than double that mileage. Bought new upper strut mounts for the fronts, but my rears were in good shape so I reused them.

    I did eventually go with adjustable upper control arms up front to reduce camber. It did help a bit but I wasn't so low where it would make all the difference. Had alignment done at least once a year b/c roads here suck.
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    I've had Solowerks for a 18 months and over 30K miles. No complaints. I live in California, so no issues with corrosion from road salt etc.
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