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    Established Member Two Rings 99PanozAIV's Avatar
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    So, my Audi listed above has just over 105,000 miles and the serpentine belt is cracked and needs replacing...scheduled for the 15th of this month. When I mentioned this to an acquaintance, he said I should have them replace the water pump while theyíre at it. Iím reluctant to mess its anything thatís not a problem but I plan on keeping this car until itís wheels fall off or mine do. The carís in great shape, doesnít use a drop of oil, performs great, etc. Given that the estimate for the serpentine belt replacement in in the neighborhood of $500+ Iím not keen to add to that bill. There are no problems with the pump now, what says Audizine?
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    Established Member Two Rings PigDiesel54's Avatar
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    IMO I follow the if it ain't broken and doesn't have a upgrade-able part, just leave it be. Also, have you looked into replacing the belt yourself? Can save yourself a whole lot of money, OEM Accessory Belt sells for around $35.
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    Senior Member Four Rings VinnysS4's Avatar
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    Replacing the belt is super easy. Don't touch the water pump unless you need to..... it isn't ran off of the belt so you would be taking other stuff off to do so.

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    Established Member Two Rings 99PanozAIV's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PigDiesel54 View Post
    IMO I follow the if it ain't broken and doesn't have a upgrade-able part, just leave it be. Also, have you looked into replacing the belt yourself? Can save yourself a whole lot of money, OEM Accessory Belt sells for around $35.
    Iím a few weeks out of spinal surgery so Iím not doing much. I was just given the OK to drive again about 10 days ago. Iím not that much of a wrencher anyway, especially for something estimated at 4 1/2hours labor by folks that actually know what theyíre doing. Ha!
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    Established Member Two Rings 99PanozAIV's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnysS4 View Post
    Replacing the belt is super easy. Don't touch the water pump unless you need to..... it isn't ran off of the belt so you would be taking other stuff off to do so.

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    Thanks...good to know. I had not even thought of it and Iíve always liked ďif it ainít broke, donít fix itĒ myself.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    4 1/2 hours is quite a stretch, even with stripped bolts on the tensioner it didn't take me that long and I'm just a hobbyist, but your choice in the end so do what works for you.

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    Established Member Two Rings PigDiesel54's Avatar
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    4.5hrs seems a little much for a simple belt change. Idk maybe Vinny can back me up on this but I feel like the longest part would be putting it into service position(if that is even need if you like working in tight spaces). Would it be possible to get a quote from another shop? Just call and say you need a new accessory belt put on and that's it. If you get better prices tell the first shops how long other shops take to do it.
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    Senior Member Four Rings VinnysS4's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PigDiesel54 View Post
    4.5hrs seems a little much for a simple belt change. Idk maybe Vinny can back me up on this but I feel like the longest part would be putting it into service position(if that is even need if you like working in tight spaces). Would it be possible to get a quote from another shop? Just call and say you need a new accessory belt put on and that's it. If you get better prices tell the first shops how long other shops take to do it.
    It takes me roughly 10 to 15 minutes to put the car into service position and about the same to change the belt. And I don't do it for a living.... If they quote you 4 hours, take your car and run. Find a better shop

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    Looks like that shop really does "know what they're doing"...which is, gouging people.

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    About 3 months ago, I replaced the tensioner, idler pulley, belt and snub mount. I did all of this in my home garage with the car on ramps.

    My mechanical skills are basic and I would say it took me less than 3 hours taking my time.

    The hardest part was my dealing with the hood latch afterwards. I didnít realize when I installed the snub mount I dislodged the hood release cable. Rookie mistake not checking that before I closed the hood. Fixing that is another story.

    I agree with others, run away and go elsewhere.


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    Established Member Three Rings roboto_1337's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99PanozAIV View Post
    So, my Audi listed above has just over 105,000 miles and the serpentine belt is cracked and needs replacing...scheduled for the 15th of this month. When I mentioned this to an acquaintance, he said I should have them replace the water pump while theyíre at it. Iím reluctant to mess its anything thatís not a problem but I plan on keeping this car until itís wheels fall off or mine do. The carís in great shape, doesnít use a drop of oil, performs great, etc. Given that the estimate for the serpentine belt replacement in in the neighborhood of $500+ Iím not keen to add to that bill. There are no problems with the pump now, what says Audizine?
    Are you talking about the accessory drive chain on the back of the engine? Or the alternator belt on the front?... I think that you're friend is making a generalization based on how some vehicles operate... If replacing the alternator belt, the water pump is not a "while you're in there" job.
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