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    B6 radiator on B5, difficult to make fit?

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    I've noticed some have been using the B6 radiators when doing the V8 swap. How tough is it to fit this radiator on a B5?

    Plan is to fit a fully aluminum B6 radiator

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    ETKA shows the B5 to be a hair narrower and a bit taller
    B5: 630x446
    B6: 632x414

    I wonder if the lower rubber mounting bushings from a B6 would compensate for the 32mm height difference.

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    Let me snag some pictures, but I think the biggest problem will be the radiator outlet. Audi decided to change the tangs or notches that align the lower radiator hose between 8D0 and 8E0 radiators.
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    Ok, interested to see what the pics show.

    Is your user name in reference to the the Volvo? My daily driver is an 05 S60R with a bit of work done to it.
    Quote Originally Posted by V70R View Post
    Let me snag some pictures, but I think the biggest problem will be the radiator outlet. Audi decided to change the tangs or notches that align the lower radiator hose between 8D0 and 8E0 radiators.
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    Yep! Big Volvo family over here and I have had a few R's over the years. I sold my stock '07 Sapphire Metallic and Atacama S60R/6MT (sport kit w/ anthracite 18'' Pegs) to purchase my USP Avant, but also had a fairly modded '00 V70R that I did an M66 swap as well, K24 and a few other goodies. I miss the B5254T4 engine a lot.

    I'll get us some pics tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by V70R View Post
    Yep! Big Volvo family over here and I have had a few R's over the years. I sold my stock '07 Sapphire Metallic and Atacama S60R/6MT (sport kit w/ anthracite 18'' Pegs) to purchase my USP Avant, but also had a fairly modded '00 V70R that I did an M66 swap as well, K24 and a few other goodies. I miss the B5254T4 engine a lot.

    I'll get us some pics tomorrow
    Not to get to far off topic, but my brother in law has a "P1"(I think, its like an 07) V50 T5 AWD man trans with bolt ons and tunning. That thing sounds sick with the I5 and is on par for speed with my GT2860 B5.
    I would not mind owning a V70 or V50 one day.
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    P1 is correct. I've got one too - V50 T5 AWD 6MT. They can be a little quirky, and (in my opinion) not quite as premium on the ride/handling/interior, but the engine is quite good. Very wide torque band and pretty snappy even stock. The engine makes the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walky_talky20 View Post
    P1 is correct. I've got one too - V50 T5 AWD 6MT. They can be a little quirky, and (in my opinion) not quite as premium on the ride/handling/interior, but the engine is quite good. Very wide torque band and pretty snappy even stock. The engine makes the car.
    Right on, you may know of my brother in laws car, He has a project on swedespeed. W4XM4N, its gray with black focus RS wheels.

    Sorry for the thread jack B5v6
    My A4 Its For sale ---> GT2860 Project
    Tuning from Motoza
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    Senior Member Three Rings b5v6's Avatar
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    A nice collection of Volvo experience. My B5 is an avant and I love it's handling and weight. Love my S60R as well but wish it could shed a few pounds.
    Quote Originally Posted by V70R View Post
    Yep! Big Volvo family over here and I have had a few R's over the years. I sold my stock '07 Sapphire Metallic and Atacama S60R/6MT (sport kit w/ anthracite 18'' Pegs) to purchase my USP Avant, but also had a fairly modded '00 V70R that I did an M66 swap as well, K24 and a few other goodies. I miss the B5254T4 engine a lot.

    I'll get us some pics tomorrow
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    No worries, enjoy hearing about other Volvos. They're fun cars too.
    Quote Originally Posted by GOODBYNAAIR View Post
    Right on, you may know of my brother in laws car, He has a project on swedespeed. W4XM4N, its gray with black focus RS wheels.

    Sorry for the thread jack B5v6
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    Full 3" stainless/relocated cat/Vibrant res & muf
    Neuspeed/Bilsteins/Kmac/17" Enkei/Bridgestone Potenza
    TT carriers/A8 rotors (front)/B5S4 (rear)/Goodridge hoses/PBR ceramic pads
    S4-RS4 look bumper/Painted rear valance/Valeo one-piece
    Facelift/Pioneer DA120 Apple Carplay/Infinity Reference (front/rear) (Bose deleted)

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    Yes, I have heard from W4XM4N on SwedeSpeed.

    Also, "Dr. Jones" from the B6 section here is also a V50 T5 AWD owner and is on SS. It's kind of a neat crossover, a bunch of us on both forums. I guess they are pretty similar audience - Turbo AWD 6-speed Euro wagons. lol
    ^Don't listen to this guy, he's not even a mechanic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V70R View Post
    Let me snag some pictures, but I think the biggest problem will be the radiator outlet. Audi decided to change the tangs or notches that align the lower radiator hose between 8D0 and 8E0 radiators.
    So I've been thinking about this. If I'm using a fully aluminum radiator I won't have to worry about the tangs/notches that line the radiator hose up because the aftermarket aluminum radiators require removing the flange from the coolant hose, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Full 3" stainless/relocated cat/Vibrant res & muf
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    TT carriers/A8 rotors (front)/B5S4 (rear)/Goodridge hoses/PBR ceramic pads
    S4-RS4 look bumper/Painted rear valance/Valeo one-piece
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    Quote Originally Posted by b5v6 View Post
    So I've been thinking about this. If I'm using a fully aluminum radiator I won't have to worry about the tangs/notches that line the radiator hose up because the aftermarket aluminum radiators require removing the flange from the coolant hose, if I'm not mistaken.

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    Ok, so I like to create threads so I can constructively talk to myself...

    The inlet and outlet of the aluminum radiator are notched so overcoming this would require modifying the inlet/outlet, or getting the radiator hoses from a B6 and removing the flanges like you do when using the 034 silicone coolant hose kits, so the flanges can be used them with the B5 hoses.

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    99 A4 1.8TQM Avant
    Stroked/Built/Elim71r/NS intake gasket/port matched head and mani/Big PNP/ECS pulley/FMIC/Relocated DV
    Full 3" stainless/relocated cat/Vibrant res & muf
    Neuspeed/Bilsteins/Kmac/17" Enkei/Bridgestone Potenza
    TT carriers/A8 rotors (front)/B5S4 (rear)/Goodridge hoses/PBR ceramic pads
    S4-RS4 look bumper/Painted rear valance/Valeo one-piece
    Facelift/Pioneer DA120 Apple Carplay/Infinity Reference (front/rear) (Bose deleted)

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    Quote Originally Posted by b5v6 View Post
    Ok, so I like to create threads so I can constructively talk to myself...

    The inlet and outlet of the aluminum radiator are notched so overcoming this would require modifying the inlet/outlet, or getting the radiator hoses from a B6 and removing the flanges like you do when using the 034 silicone coolant hose kits, so the flanges can be used them with the B5 hoses.

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    just use the B6 hoses
    Stupid drift A4

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    B6 hose prices defeat the purpose (lower price is almost $60 more for a B6) and are not an effective fitment for the differences in Tstats between the AWM and AMB motors. Okay, onto the pics: B6 radiator, new genuine VW AWM lower radiator hose-






    Note- position with hose installed.

    So after looking at things a little closer, the notches in the AWM rad hose are perfectly symmetrical in location, it just needs to be barely filed to get it to fit. Only question that exists is if I can get the radiator to fit within the stock B5 core support. Let's give that s try shortly...
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    Which brand of radiator are you considering purchasing? If I could get a few of us together, I will contact CSF and see if they could use their B5 S4 core, and give us a 100% aluminum rad with fittings on the proper side without modifications. Their radiators are amazing

    http://csfrace.com/new-high-performa...5-s4-radiator/


    Edit-

    Ehhhh it might fit. With the bottom pegs inserted into the core support this is the distance from each factory hole on the top:

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    Senior Member Three Rings b5v6's Avatar
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    The pics are helpful, thanks for taking the time to get them.

    Looks like the B6 is a bit wide where the pins are inserted.

    I'm looking at a China made radiator on eBay. Definitely in for something of better quality. There's also the Mishimoto radiator that someone modified to fit a B5, but think the B6 one would be easier.

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    TT carriers/A8 rotors (front)/B5S4 (rear)/Goodridge hoses/PBR ceramic pads
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    There's one for the 1.8T B5, finally.

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F273227941620

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    Full 3" stainless/relocated cat/Vibrant res & muf
    Neuspeed/Bilsteins/Kmac/17" Enkei/Bridgestone Potenza
    TT carriers/A8 rotors (front)/B5S4 (rear)/Goodridge hoses/PBR ceramic pads
    S4-RS4 look bumper/Painted rear valance/Valeo one-piece
    Facelift/Pioneer DA120 Apple Carplay/Infinity Reference (front/rear) (Bose deleted)

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    I like the idea of OE connections, a lot. I have contacted CSF to see if we can get an alloy radiator for us. If there's an interest let me know as we could get a group buy price for us if possible.

    Tyler
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    Senior Member Three Rings b5v6's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by V70R View Post
    I like the idea of OE connections, a lot. I have contacted CSF to see if we can get an alloy radiator for us. If there's an interest let me know as we could get a group buy price for us if possible.

    Tyler
    I'd be up for a CSF product over eBay sold product. Hit them up to gauge their interest in this and let's go from there.

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    Full 3" stainless/relocated cat/Vibrant res & muf
    Neuspeed/Bilsteins/Kmac/17" Enkei/Bridgestone Potenza
    TT carriers/A8 rotors (front)/B5S4 (rear)/Goodridge hoses/PBR ceramic pads
    S4-RS4 look bumper/Painted rear valance/Valeo one-piece
    Facelift/Pioneer DA120 Apple Carplay/Infinity Reference (front/rear) (Bose deleted)

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    Email responded from CSF, I'll be talking to them over the phone early this week to come up with a drop-in solution.

    If anyone else is interested, let us know!
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    Probably worthy of a new feeler thread

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    S4-RS4 look bumper/Painted rear valance/Valeo one-piece
    Facelift/Pioneer DA120 Apple Carplay/Infinity Reference (front/rear) (Bose deleted)

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