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    Lowering Spring Options

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    Looking to lower my RS3. So far my research has come up with following options. MSS, APR, H&R, EMD, KW, ABT, NEUSPEED and I’m probably missing some. (034??)

    I’m not looking for a “slammed” look... just a little lower than stock. I’m not likely to track the car. I have the mag ride suspension. I may upgrade the sway bars later. I realize this is a pretty opened ended question but thoughts and feedback would be appreciated.

    Just passed 2,500 kms and loving the car so far.


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    I did mss at the highest setting and love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacincceo View Post
    I did mss at the highest setting and love it.
    Price? pics?

    Does it fuck up the magnetic ride?

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    Senior Member Three Rings Konrad's Avatar
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    APR, H&R and EiBach all have pro kits that will work with your mag ride. If you are looking for max drop then MSS is a good option. But, it's also the most expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniper260687 View Post
    Price? pics?

    Does it fuck up the magnetic ride?
    MSS at highest setting immediately after install.








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    @uclaman

    When you say “highest setting”, do you have it maxed out in the front and rear? I’ve got the MSS street springs waiting for my car to arrive. I’ve always understood that you need to lower the front all the way down and adjust the rear up to get a level setup. Yours looks fantastic so I’d like more details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman302 View Post
    @uclaman

    When you say “highest setting”, do you have it maxed out in the front and rear? I’ve got the MSS street springs waiting for my car to arrive. I’ve always understood that you need to lower the front all the way down and adjust the rear up to get a level setup. Yours looks fantastic so I’d like more details.
    I had 034 motorsports just put the MSS springs on and that's it(track pack with street fronts - my understanding is that the street fronts have similar spring rate but only go down 30mm as opposed to 40mm for the track fronts).

    They did not lower the vehicle any further, they simply just put the springs on.

    I have a follow up in the coming weeks after they settle and may have them lower the front a tad bit more.

    Reason I elected not to lower too much is I have a steep driveway. That being said, I could probably lower 10-20mm on the fronts.

    In any case, the ride seems much more composed but smoother with the springs(keep in mind I also had dogbones installed). The stock springs to me felt very stiff. The MSS does not feel stif to me(in a good way).

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    Established Member Two Rings seanix9's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman302 View Post
    @uclaman

    When you say “highest setting”, do you have it maxed out in the front and rear? I’ve got the MSS street springs waiting for my car to arrive. I’ve always understood that you need to lower the front all the way down and adjust the rear up to get a level setup. Yours looks fantastic so I’d like more details.
    You are spot on mate.
    The rears on the lowest setting actually look slammed. The fronts on the other hand don't lower that much. if you compare the MSS to the more popular brand such as H&R, the H&R sits lower.
    Ive got MSS sports kit with track front springs. Once the settling in period is complete, we will need to raise the rear to match the front.
    At the moment it looks a little silly :)

    Ride quality is fantastic with the MSS. They are very expensive springs in comparison to everything else out there but you do get a great product no doubt. You may also want to consider the new KW HAS springs which have recently been launched. Being a new product, there is little information about their ride quality etc . There aren't many ppl running these at the moment but i'm sure it will gain momentum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uclaman View Post
    I had 034 motorsports just put the MSS springs on and that's it(track pack with street fronts - my understanding is that the street fronts have similar spring rate but only go down 30mm as opposed to 40mm for the track fronts).

    They did not lower the vehicle any further, they simply just put the springs on.

    I have a follow up in the coming weeks after they settle and may have them lower the front a tad bit more.

    Reason I elected not to lower too much is I have a steep driveway. That being said, I could probably lower 10-20mm on the fronts.

    In any case, the ride seems much more composed but smoother with the springs(keep in mind I also had dogbones installed). The stock springs to me felt very stiff. The MSS does not feel stif to me(in a good way).
    Quote Originally Posted by seanix9 View Post
    You are spot on mate.
    The rears on the lowest setting actually look slammed. The fronts on the other hand don't lower that much. if you compare the MSS to the more popular brand such as H&R, the H&R sits lower.
    Ive got MSS sports kit with track front springs. Once the settling in period is complete, we will need to raise the rear to match the front.
    At the moment it looks a little silly :)

    Ride quality is fantastic with the MSS. They are very expensive springs in comparison to everything else out there but you do get a great product no doubt. You may also want to consider the new KW HAS springs which have recently been launched. Being a new product, there is little information about their ride quality etc . There aren't many ppl running these at the moment but i'm sure it will gain momentum.
    Thanks for the additional details and positive feedback, gentlemen. It’s always good to hear reinforcement that I went the right route with the springs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uclaman View Post
    The stock springs to me felt very stiff. The MSS does not feel stif to me(in a good way).
    I assume this is in Dynamic that they felt too stiff? I wouldn't want to lose the level of stiffness the car has by going with these springs. I'm surprised to hear they feel softer.

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    Lowering Spring Options

    Quote Originally Posted by ahyeah View Post
    I assume this is in Dynamic that they felt too stiff? I wouldn't want to lose the level of stiffness the car has by going with these springs. I'm surprised to hear they feel softer.
    Maybe softer is not the correct term.

    To me it feels like there is less roll with turns and everything feels more responsive but at the same time i feel like bumps or imperfections in the road are not as jarring as stock. And yes im comparing dynamic mode pre and post mss.

    But maybe its placebo effect.

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    I’m interested in the MSS but having a hard time justifying paying an extra $840 over say an EMD spring. $1129 vs 280 is a pretty big difference for springs. Are they that much better?


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    When did APR come out with springs for the RS3 or are you referring to the rebranded S3 springs they're using on RS3........
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    Quote Originally Posted by uclaman View Post
    MSS at highest setting immediately after install.








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    Looks fantastic!


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    MSS with track fronts.

    Need to raise the rear to match the front. Still got some settling to go.

    Ride quality is fantastic. I was happy to pay the premium for comfort but I agree, they are very expensive compared to everything else out there .




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    Quote Originally Posted by seanix9 View Post
    MSS with track fronts.

    Ride quality is fantastic. I was happy to pay the premium for comfort but I agree, they are very expensive compared to everything else out there .

    You have made the best choice. I am looking for the best deal on the track setup all around.

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    You have made the best choice. I am looking for the best deal on the track setup all around.
    Where did you buy the black rings?
    Have a pic of the front?
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    Quote Originally Posted by comingabriel View Post
    You have made the best choice. I am looking for the best deal on the track setup all around.

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    Where did you buy the black rings?
    Have a pic of the front?
    Here U go.

    http://www.originalpartsgroup.com.au...OSS-BLACK.html





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    Quote Originally Posted by seanix9 View Post
    Sweet! I took off the front RS3 badge and will remove the rear, just leave gloss black rings on my black ops grey RS3.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWS4 View Post
    I’m interested in the MSS but having a hard time justifying paying an extra $840 over say an EMD spring. $1129 vs 280 is a pretty big difference for springs. Are they that much better?


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    Like others have mentioned above, the MSS kit is a superior suspension setup for the RS3. With the MSS kit you will find it is just more then a lowering spring, the team at MSS has spent years developing the perfect kit to not only improve daily driving ride comfort, but as you push the car you'll find the suspension really come to life! Working in conjunction with the BWI group, the company that produces the MagRide struts for the VAG platform, they were able to obtain rebound and compression damping to get the perfect ride in all drive modes. We have had plenty of customers convert from the conventional lowering spring and coilover setup to the MSS kit with nothing but positive results.



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