S6/S7 Stage 3 (RS7 Turbos) 1/4 Mile Times on 93?

[15 Phantom S6]

Does anyone have solid 1/4 times and MPH for stage 3 using 93 octane tune with 93 octane?

I figure low 11's but really looking to know if 10's are even a possibility on 93 since all the numbers I see from stage 3 guys are on race fuel.. Haven't yet installed my stage 3 kit I've been hoarding, but looking to get a good time on 93 and not sure what that is/means... track opens soon here, will be installing stage 3 and peripherals asap...

[Ze_Nardo6]

I only have dragy times for running 93 octane on the 93 file. Have about 30 runs with my best at 10.73 while averaging 10.8x

I have actual track times running 104 on 104 file of 10.69 @ 129 followed by separate dragy times running 104 on 104 file of 10.67 @ 131 (130.94). The ET from track to dragy seems spot on while the dragy gives me an extra mph or 2 as compared to the track. This may have been attributed to much better weather conditions during the dragy runs but these cars have shown that a delta in DA (within reason) doesn't change much.

Regarding ET, I firmly believe running 93 on 93 file will yield 10.7x-10.8x at the track.

For full transparency, I was running an e22 blend on the 93 file. I have a Zeitronix ECA gauge so my blend is accurate. I put about a gallon of e85 on top of roughly 5-6 gallons of 93.

Here are some of my better pump gas runs

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Here are a few race gas runs

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[15 Phantom S6]

That is some great info, thanks! Definitely surprised to hear the S6 can do 10's with 93, its exactly what I'm looking to do, just wasn't sure if it was possible without breaking a record or something.. The difference in times from 93 to 104 is smaller than I imagined..

[Ze_Nardo6]

That is some great info, thanks! Definitely surprised to hear the S6 can do 10's with 93, its exactly what I'm looking to do, just wasn't sure if it was possible without breaking a record or something.. The difference in times from 93 to 104 is smaller than I imagined..

It definitely is...and that seems attributed to APR not being able to get too aggressive with OTS software

[OlyS6]

The best I've done on 93 is 11.4sec, although all of my runs have been in cooler conditions (about 50 degrees) with wheel spin. I also run a zeitronix ethanol analyzer and keep the e content at 22-23. Here in WA I only have 92 octane available, and generally add about 2 gallons of e85 to attain an ethanol content of 23. I believe the car has 10's in it, I just don't get out that much and have minimal experience in getting it to launch properly. Full disclosure, my car is likely a fair bit heavier than others, as I've got additional amplifiers and a heavy subwoofer enclosure, as well as a bunch of sound deadening material installed in the car.

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As you have found out, traction is king when ET is the goal. I’m fairly certain 10’s are obtainable on pump as well, however I haven’t made any passes on 93 to confirm.
OlyS6, what was your mph when you ran?

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I only have dragy times for running 93 octane on the 93 file. Have about 30 runs with my best at 10.73 while averaging 10.8x

I have actual track times running 104 on 104 file of 10.69 @ 129 followed by separate dragy times running 104 on 104 file of 10.67 @ 131 (130.94). The ET from track to dragy seems spot on while the dragy gives me an extra mph or 2 as compared to the track. This may have been attributed to much better weather conditions during the dragy runs but these cars have shown that a delta in DA (within reason) doesn't change much.

Regarding ET, I firmly believe running 93 on 93 file will yield 10.7x-10.8x at the track.

For full transparency, I was running an e22 blend on the 93 file. I have a Zeitronix ECA gauge so my blend is accurate. I put about a gallon of e85 on top of roughly 5-6 gallons of 93.

Here are some of my better pump gas runs

IMG_3572.jpg
IMG_3573.jpg

Here are a few race gas runs

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IMG_3575.jpg

Those runs look very solid. Nice!

[Ze_Nardo6]

The best I've done on 93 is 11.4sec, although all of my runs have been in cooler conditions (about 50 degrees) with wheel spin. I also run a zeitronix ethanol analyzer and keep the e content at 22-23. Here in WA I only have 92 octane available, and generally add about 2 gallons of e85 to attain an ethanol content of 23. I believe the car has 10's in it, I just don't get out that much and have minimal experience in getting it to launch properly. Full disclosure, my car is likely a fair bit heavier than others, as I've got additional amplifiers and a heavy subwoofer enclosure, as well as a bunch of sound deadening material installed in the car.

As you increase power with these cars, the warmer temps become more necessary for quicker ET. I've found 68-80 degrees is optimal for traction at these power levels. In stock form, temps could be much lower. We've also discussed you launching on asphalt compared to my launching on concrete, the latter yielding better traction. Once it warms and you find a better surface, you'll see 10s Andre!

Those runs look very solid. Nice!

Thanks BK!

[OlyS6]

As you have found out, traction is king when ET is the goal. I’m fairly certain 10’s are obtainable on pump as well, however I haven’t made any passes on 93 to confirm.
OlyS6, what was your mph when you ran?

My trap speeds have been ranging from 125-128mph on the runs that I've done.

[Ze_Nardo6]

My trap speeds have been ranging from 125-128mph on the runs that I've done.

If you’re hitting 128 traps on pump gas, your car is capable of 10.7x-10.8x with better conditions

[OlyS6]

If you’re hitting 128 traps on pump gas, your car is capable of 10.7x-10.8x with better conditions

Cool! I'll keep trying- as soon as I finish getting the car put back together again...

[Ze_Nardo6]

Cool! I'll keep trying- as soon as I finish getting the car put back together again...

You are a mad scientist!

[15 Phantom S6]

Still looking to know, has anyone hit 10's in a S6 with RS7 turbos on 93 octane yet??

I haven't seen or heard of anyone hitting 10's unless it's with race gas.. It's winter here and I can only dream of good weather and tack time..

I was mostly preoccupied with my other rides hitting the track last year but I did try twice to hit the 1/4 mile track with my S6 last fall and one time the track was wet and they only were allowing 1/8th mile runs, and the other time there was an accident that shut the track down for the day prior to my run..

Anyone?

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ZeNardo posted a couple of draggy runs on 93 tune/octane.
As far as actual drag track, idk. Myself, the nearest drag strip is 3-4 hours away... so if I’m going, I will be running the best fuel and tune I have.


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[OlyS6]

Best dragy run I’ve managed on pump has is 11.2.
Stage 3 S6.


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[15 Phantom S6]

Looks like 10's on a stage 3 (RS7 turbos) is gonna be a bit harder than I imagined it would be.. ZeNardo's dragy runs gives me hope, I'd love to have a 10 second daily on pump..

When I did hit the track last year with my S6, I went with race gas to try an get my best time but I've since changed my strategy since we all know 10's is more than doable on race gas..

If I ever hit 10's on pump, maybe then I'll go for the gusto and see how fast the 104 file nets me..

Gonna try and max things on pump gas for now and would love to hear from anyone with stage 3 (RS7 Turbos) who has hit a 10 second 1/4 mile run.. I'm easily 3 months away from any track time...

[Saleen S7 TT]

DS1 on E85 stage 3 should easily be 10's. Even stage 2 on E85 for DS1 most likely could hit high 10's.

[15 Phantom S6]

I agree, for sure 10's on E85, but no E85 around my neck of the woods which is why I'd like to have 10's on what I have in my tank 100% of the time.. Not that it matters, but getting into the 10's was my original inspiration for going stage 3...

Once more folks are using the DS1, I believe 10's will be a "normal" on 93 octane.. For now, I'd love for an APR tune to do it, and I do believe its possible, but it just seems an uphill battle at this point..

[Saleen S7 TT]

10's for stage 3 on 93 octane I'd say wouldn't be normal. Maybe with weight reduction and a good tire/wheel setup.

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It’s quite doable Phantom. What did you run on 104? That should give you a good idea of where you stand. Traction is the biggest obstacle for any S6 with street tires. The 93 tune will actually help to attain consistent 60fts. Good luck.


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[15 Phantom S6]

I went to the track with 104 in the tank but the track had issues so I wasn't able to run..

Going hit the track when it opens up again in the spring and I'm gonna keep going until I'm satisfied that I've hit the best time I can with my current set-up... I do have the belief that 10's is possible on 93 with APR's stage 3 tune, but I realize that just because I have a belief doesn't mean it will happen.. After a few runs I'll know if it is really a possibility or not.

After I get the best I can run, if I see the stage 3 guys using DS1 and consistently getting some better times over APR, I'll probably make the switch..

[Hofahome]

10's for stage 3 on 93 octane I'd say wouldn't be normal. Maybe with weight reduction and a good tire/wheel setup.

Its all conjecture but I’d agree that 10’s on APR 93 may be a stretch in DD form. DS1 will probably add more tq compared to the APR stg 3 tune. If it doesn’t get to 10’s initially then its only a matter of time as the tune gets revised more and more.


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