Suspension spacers to use A6 coilovers on the allroad

[Nogaro Nitwit]

I have been working with a fellow allroad enthusiast to get some of these for myself. He developed these and has refined them. There are a few allroaders out there running these currently. Due to some delays with his source for these, I have worked with him to get a new supplier for a limited run. If you have been wanting to go static coilovers without having to touch the subframe spacers, changing the front uprights and lower control arms, these are for you. This is for a set of all 4 made with aluminum billet. These will use the allroad upper hats and use A6 coilovers. These spacers measure 2" and will get you to a proper and usable height. These were developed since there are many more A6 based coilover choices vs the very few allroad choices.

Currently I have 5 confirmed so far for these through another forum, the Facebook allroad group and Instagram

Group pricing is currently the following for both front and rear suspension spacers (all 4):

1-5 orders - $400
6-8 orders - $375
9+ orders - $350

Just let me know the interest.

[julex]

I am running a set of these. Without these it is not possible to use A6/W8 suspension products on allroad without going to extremes like removing frame spacers and replacing uprights. Far more involved and expensive proposition!

[Nogaro Nitwit]

I am running a set of these. Without these it is not possible to use A6/W8 suspension products on allroad without going to extremes like removing frame spacers and replacing uprights. Far more involved and expensive proposition!

Thanks for your input, Julex. I knew you were running a version, but did not want to speak for you

[A6Rick]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it just be easier to just swap the strut top hats? Why are spacers needed?

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[julex]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it just be easier to just swap the strut top hats? Why are spacers needed?

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Spacers are needed because allroad has taller uprights, wheels, wheel wells and most notable longer shocks. The shocks are about 1" longer.

Strut hats change nothing between A6 and allroad ones. They are pretty much identical when it comes to spacing of top of strut to body mount point on chassis - which is the hat's thickness.


If you install A6 suspension in allroad without spacers, you'll install 1" shorter shock/spring causing it to drop, but not by 1", but by about 1.5" in front and 2" in back, ending up with wheels well in the fenders and slammed position.

Why 1.5" front and 2" in back and not 1" though?

This is because the shock doesn't attach to the wheel itself (if it did then it would be 1") but much closer to the pivot point which is the straight lower arm frame bushing. Front shock attachment point is roughly at a bit more than 1/2 the distance from pivot to wheel hub. Rear is almost exact at 1/2 distance. I have the exact number somewhere because I did a lot of research on this back in days.

Use you basic trigonometry skills to figure this out .

[Nogaro Nitwit]

Spacers are needed because allroad has taller uprights, wheels, wheel wells and most notable longer shocks. The shocks are about 1" longer.

Strut hats change nothing between A6 and allroad ones. They are pretty much identical when it comes to spacing of top of strut to body mount point on chassis - which is the hat's thickness.


If you install A6 suspension in allroad without spacers, you'll install 1" shorter shock/spring causing it to drop, but not by 1", but by about 1.5" in front and 2" in back, ending up with wheels well in the fenders and slammed position.

Why 1.5" front and 2" in back and not 1" though?

This is because the shock doesn't attach to the wheel itself (if it did then it would be 1") but much closer to the pivot point which is the straight lower arm frame bushing. Front shock attachment point is roughly at a bit more than 1/2 the distance from pivot to wheel hub. Rear is almost exact at 1/2 distance. I have the exact number somewhere because I did a lot of research on this back in days.

Use you basic trigonometry skills to figure this out .

Thanks Julex! Been down sick for the past few days and missed this. Hopefully we can wrap this up soon and get them out to everyone.

[A6Rick]

Spacers are needed because allroad has taller uprights, wheels, wheel wells and most notable longer shocks. The shocks are about 1" longer.

Strut hats change nothing between A6 and allroad ones. They are pretty much identical when it comes to spacing of top of strut to body mount point on chassis - which is the hat's thickness.


If you install A6 suspension in allroad without spacers, you'll install 1" shorter shock/spring causing it to drop, but not by 1", but by about 1.5" in front and 2" in back, ending up with wheels well in the fenders and slammed position.

Why 1.5" front and 2" in back and not 1" though?

This is because the shock doesn't attach to the wheel itself (if it did then it would be 1") but much closer to the pivot point which is the straight lower arm frame bushing. Front shock attachment point is roughly at a bit more than 1/2 the distance from pivot to wheel hub. Rear is almost exact at 1/2 distance. I have the exact number somewhere because I did a lot of research on this back in days.

Use you basic trigonometry skills to figure this out .

That was very clear and concise. I appreciate the feedback. I wasn't aware of the slight differences in allroad suspension parts. Thanks for the info.

Just bought a 04 allroad and the bags are blown. Was considering throwing on bilstein shocks with h&r springs that I took off of my 4.2 a6.


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[glennda5id]

What is the thickness of these spacers?

[Nogaro Nitwit]

What is the thickness of these spacers?

2 inches

[glennda5id]

When do you need to know by?

[julex]

When do you need to know by?

BC Coilovers not working out?

[glennda5id]

One of BC shocks I think is making some noise in the rear which is sort of annoying, but it could be something else. They ride fine and I hardly drive the car these days. That being said, Julex you have me sold on this approach and I am considering getting a pair of spacers just to have on hand if I want to go the route of A6 coilovers. They may just gather dust though...

[Nogaro Nitwit]

One of BC shocks I think is making some noise in the rear which is sort of annoying, but it could be something else. They ride fine and I hardly drive the car these days. That being said, Julex you have me sold on this approach and I am considering getting a pair of spacers just to have on hand if I want to go the route of A6 coilovers. They may just gather dust though...

Let me know soon. I will be ending the group buy soon

[glennda5id]

Julex,

I run about 10 mm below Level 1. With the 2" spacers, can one get ST Coilovers at Level 1 or close to it?

[julex]

Julex,

I run about 10 mm below Level 1. With the 2" spacers, can one get ST Coilovers at Level 1 or close to it?

you should be able to. I have 1.5" spacers in mine but i had to crank the collars way up, especially rear, to sit at that -20mm L1 level. 2" is the sweet spot (because it gives a little more of rubber bump stop into effective range) and I would do that if I was doing it all over again.

[glennda5id]

Okay, I'll take a set!

[Nogaro Nitwit]

Okay, I'll take a set!

Cool. I'll add you to the list. I will keep you in the loop for production and payment.

[Nogaro Nitwit]

I pulled the coilovers last night and will be shipping them off to make sure the spacers are good to go. A test run will be done and once everything checks out, the rest of the run will be created for the group buy.

Currently we have enough folks committed that we have hit the $350 price point

[SteelyS6]

Nice, folks will be happy with this. Wish I had some more disposable funds right now.

[Nogaro Nitwit]

Nice, folks will be happy with this. Wish I had some more disposable funds right now.

Do it! You know you want to. It will make you feel good. All the cool people are doing it. \peer pressure

[SteelyS6]

Do it! You know you want to. It will make you feel good. All the cool people are doing it. \peer pressure

Lol, having two allroads on coilovers might get me burnt alive at the stake! ;)

[Nogaro Nitwit]

This will be going for another week or two. We reached the $350 price point for all 4 spacers.

[das_boosthead]

Can't wait! Shopping for coilovers now.

[Nogaro Nitwit]

Just a heads up that production is starting next week. SO get me your info ASAP if I don't already have it

[Nogaro Nitwit]

The production is about to begin......

My test run has commenced

[Nogaro Nitwit]

Just an update on this. Mark at Autospeed Performance is doing the spacers for the group buy. He has sent me some updated photos. The spacers have been produced and will be shipped to me within the next day or so. I can't wait to get these on and try them out. As long as they are a go on my car, the production will start. Looking so good!

[Nogaro Nitwit]

The day has finally arrived. A package arrived yesterday.....



Along with the suspension I sent up for test fitting and refinement I received the newly machined spacers



Front and rear spacers



The underside of the front suspension spacer



Unfortunately I did not have time to get things installed last night. But I was able to get a quick test fitting in. Hopefully installed pictures in the next day or so.

[kRussia]

Looks like great quality work by auto speed

[pyite20v]

Hey Nogaro Nitwit, I would love to see some more pics of your allroads, especially the Maroon one with those BFGs. Im thinking of building my maroon AR into an offroad rig....

[Nogaro Nitwit]

Hey Nogaro Nitwit, I would love to see some more pics of your allroads, especially the Maroon one with those BFGs. Im thinking of building my maroon AR into an offroad rig....

Are you on Instagram at all? That’s about the only social media I do. Plenty of pics of that on my feed. Just look up my user named there.

[Sgt Audi]

Hey nogaro nitwit, is there a group buy still going on for these? If so price? Would like to convert before snow starts coming and these are what ive been looking for.

[Nogaro Nitwit]

Hey nogaro nitwit, is there a group buy still going on for these? If so price? Would like to convert before snow starts coming and these are what ive been looking for.

Yes. We have had a few drop out. DM me with your email and mailing address. Payment needed ASAP!! $350 + shipping

[Sgt Audi]

Hey I'm new to using forms and want to buy this can you message me or use facebook or something? Thanks willing to buy asap

[Fahrvergnugen]

I have an '01 Allroad with the Arnott conversion on the car, an early version I think... The spacer this would replace is rubber. Would this work to replace that?

[Nogaro Nitwit]

I have an '01 Allroad with the Arnott conversion on the car, an early version I think... The spacer this would replace is rubber. Would this work to replace that?

No, this does not replace the rubber on the Arnott coil conversion. This allows for the shorter A6/S6 coilovers to be used on the allroad, which needs longer coilovers due to the subframe spacers

[Sgt Audi]

I'm trying to install these today and im looking at the rear spacers now, do I need to purchase a longer bolt to mount to the top with the spacer there? If so what size bolt and thread is needed?

[Sgt Audi]

If anyone is looking it is m8 x 1.25 80mm. 75 could work as well

[steveneedsmoney]

Were there any of these left over? Or a CNC file maybe?

[sswilliams66]

I am looking for a set of these 2" spacers to put on my 2005 allroad 2.7 using ST coil overs and it's too low....

Any sources to buy more of theses?

[das_boosthead]

I am looking for a set of these 2" spacers to put on my 2005 allroad 2.7 using ST coil overs and it's too low....

Any sources to buy more of theses?

Check with Nogaro Nitwit. You may also consider reaching out to Mark at Autospeed who handled the original batch.