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  1. 04-19-2018 10:59 AM #1
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    Whats going on with this trans shifts???

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    Can this be normal DSG symptoms or is there a problem here?

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    Are you talking about the "lag" or "slip" in the beginning of the video? Mine does the same, been so since 39k miles.
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  3. 04-19-2018 12:14 PM #3
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    The brief slip/lag in between shifts
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo93 View Post
    The brief slip/lag in between shifts
    I've had the same issue on my Stage 2 tune, don't know if it's because of the power making it slip but a lot, and I mean A LOT of S4 videos I watch upon WOT have the same issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAF_Danny View Post
    I've had the same issue on my Stage 2 tune, don't know if it's because of the power making it slip but a lot, and I mean A LOT of S4 videos I watch upon WOT have the same issue.
    Yea ive noticed the same thing also. The weird thing is my car is stock with 36k miles and it happens. I hate it. Im worried it will get worse when i go stage 2 this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo93 View Post
    Yea ive noticed the same thing also. The weird thing is my car is stock with 36k miles and it happens. I hate it. Im worried it will get worse when i go stage 2 this summer.
    It actually doesn't get worse, and I've noticed that it only happens on WOT.

    Mine did it when it was stock too and that was 20k miles ago. You'll be okay at stage 2, promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAF_Danny View Post
    It actually doesn't get worse, and I've noticed that it only happens on WOT.

    Mine did it when it was stock too and that was 20k miles ago. You'll be okay at stage 2, promise.
    Why the hell does it happen. A 63 thousand dollar cars dual clutch should shift with perfection. Biggest complaint with this car.
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    Mine sometimes shifts and it feels like hitting a brick wall. I'm not 100% sure if it's all TCU. It often feels like car is cutting out fuel/power completely. Other times it feels like the clutches are slipping and it doesn't engage right away.

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  9. 04-19-2018 03:17 PM #9
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    Same here , it’s annoying . Thinking about switching TCU . Share this video
    https://youtu.be/zbN3-K4CiaE . It’s done it in every tune file . Met a guy at the track having the same issues .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodizzle View Post
    Same here , it’s annoying . Thinking about switching TCU . Share this video
    https://youtu.be/zbN3-K4CiaE . It’s done it in every tune file . Met a guy at the track having the same issues .


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    Yea im thinking about going with APRs ECU and TCU. Hoping the tune helps. I cant stand it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo93 View Post
    Yea im thinking about going with APRs ECU and TCU. Hoping the tune helps. I cant stand it.
    Are you guys on 034 as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miztahsparklez View Post
    Are you guys on 034 as well?

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    Anyone have some more input?
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    my apr trans tune does not do that , im stage 2 + with apr tcu tune
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonas4 View Post
    my apr trans tune does not do that , im stage 2 + with apr tcu tune
    Hopefully the TCU tune will clean it up. Maybe the clutch plates need more pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo93 View Post
    Hopefully the TCU tune will clean it up. Maybe the clutch plates need more pressure.
    yep i think that is it , i know from a recent apr training session that the apr stage 2 tune is set to give less power if the tcu is not tuned with it . most likely for that reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonas4 View Post
    yep i think that is it , i know from a recent apr training session that the apr stage 2 tune is set to give less power if the tcu is not tuned with it . most likely for that reason
    Gotcha, its just odd because im experiencing this and my car is stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo93 View Post
    Gotcha, its just odd because im experiencing this and my car is stock.
    Stock means your mech unit or gear selector sensors are on it's way out. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by miztahsparklez View Post
    Stock means your mech unit or gear selector sensors are on it's way out. Lol

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    Will any of that show up through a VCDS scan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo93 View Post
    Will any of that show up through a VCDS scan?
    No. You will just find out later when you are stuck on the road... Lol

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    No. You will just find out later when you are stuck on the road... Lol

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    I read a thread with ARP a while back that they were having issues with this on stage 2 and TCU tunes. They said the fix was that they shift pressure needed to be adjusted/fixed in the TCU tune. The increased torque and insufficient clutch plate pressure caused a slight slip. If my memory serves correctly. They claimed it would not cause any issues and they eventually got it fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badazzstang View Post
    I read a thread with ARP a while back that they were having issues with this on stage 2 and TCU tunes. They said the fix was that they shift pressure needed to be adjusted/fixed in the TCU tune. The increased torque and insufficient clutch plate pressure caused a slight slip. If my memory serves correctly. They claimed it would not cause any issues and they eventually got it fixed.
    Gotcha, thanks for the info. I was actually just reading more about that exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlo93 View Post
    Gotcha, thanks for the info. I was actually just reading more about that exactly.
    I’m so tempted to drop my 034 tcu to go with apr


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    If you notice that road needed help, and you might be dealing with traction issues just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDfwS4 View Post
    If you notice that road needed help, and you might be dealing with traction issues just a thought.
    Im noticing it with a stock s4. No way is traction an issue but true its something to think about.
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