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    Trigger pulled - Milltek Non Res 240

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    I decided to start a new thread to share my shopping experience for this system outlined in the title. I have spent the last month trying to hunt down the right deal and make sure I’m partnering with the right vendors/companies. I decided to email every tuning company you can think of including some that don’t even advertise Milltek. My goal was to rate customer service, response times, price of course (but wasn’t most important) and general vibe from the representative.

    1st Criteria > Customer service/response time: Most but certainly not all companies responded fast to my request because who wouldn’t when a customer seeks them out to spend money. Like any negotiator I shared my thoughts and price points on the replies. That’s when 90% of the vendors stopped emailing back. The other amazing piece was how many told me I was wrong and no one would ever offer the price I’m asking for (I won’t share pricing out of confidentiality or the names that consist of the 90% out of respect). Let’s just say the 90% were 100% wrong.

    2nd Criteria > who’s an enthusiast and who’s a salesman/saleswomen: Conversations were through emails so I will factor in it’s hard to hear enthusiasm via emails but you could tell by wording and words chosen I believe. Again, I personally found a 90% - 10% split again. This doesn’t refer to their product knowledge or understanding of the equipment...just overall vibe in communication (subjective, I understand).

    3rd Criteria > Pricing and/or how willing to work with me on price: I almost believe the “Big Box” tuning companies must email each other and set pricing. They all claim they can only offer what Milltek will let them..hard to believe but maybe true. I also thought..bought inventory can be marketed anyway you want but maybe that’s not true. Once I pushed back a little I got radio silence from 6-7 companies. I had to reach back out again to confirm they received my emails...they did...just chose not to respond. To me that’s a huge turn-off, I wasn’t asking for crazy discounts just common sale pricing outside of sale window. If I have to follow up to spend my money then I will spend it somewhere else.

    Before I announce the company I personally feel met all those marks and decided to purchase from; I want to be clear about the intent of this post. So many have shared their input with me and I wanted to give back to the community. I didn’t receive anything from the company that wasn’t offered originally for me posting or sharing my thoughts. I just think it’s the right thing to do and perhaps it helps someone else too.

    The company I decided to go with is E1 Motorsports. I reached out to Nick and he was the very first to respond, kept responding and certainly found a price point I felt was fair. Again, I don’t think it’s right to share but I’m sure he’d be happy to shoot you a quote. I literally just purchased it (technically still need to confirm PayPal payment) so I can’t speak to shipping speed or condition upon arrival...Yet. I am not concerned though. It’s easy to tell he’s an enthusiast (not saying others aren’t) and seems like a decent guy via PM’s and emails. Overall, I’m glad I emailed as many companies as possible and remained patient through the process. In the end I believe I made the right choice on company and have to say I’M PUMPED about buying this system.

    ***This thread is not intended to criticize any tuning company as there are many great reps I’ve worked with. This is 100% specific to my experience buying the exhaust system.

    I will make sure to post remarks and pics throughout the shipping, receiving and of course...installation and sound!

    Long read for sure...but wanted to share thus far. Thanks to all the members advice leading me to Milltek and E1 Motorsports. Can’t wait!


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    Nick @ E1 is the man. Best and quickest service out there. Probably the lowest prices too.
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    Post a vid of your exhaust sounds once you have it installed....stoked to hear what you will be enjoying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fstr n u View Post
    Post a vid of your exhaust sounds once you have it installed....stoked to hear what you will be enjoying!
    https://youtu.be/zEqBqLQ71xQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Works2shoot View Post
    That’s the video that made me ask more questions about this system. If it sounds half as good in person (Assuming better) then I’m a happy camper!


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    Quote Originally Posted by BozMan-S4 View Post
    That’s the video that made me ask more questions about this system. If it sounds half as good in person (Assuming better) then I’m a happy camper!


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    From what i've heard from several guys, it actually does not sound as good in that video.

    These are from separate individuals. Both claimed that the exhaust note in the above video is deeper and more burbly than in person. They do have the milltek non res with the quad tips though. Not sure if the oval tips have a different sound though

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    Appreciate the opportunity to work with you. Enjoy the system!

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    Glad Nick was great to work with. Milltek resonated is my favorite sounding exhaust with test pipes/headers. Unfortunately, Milltek wouldn’t do a version of their exhaust in 2.5", nor would they sell me their mufflers in a 2.5" version. Dual 2.25" seems to efficiently support 371-416 HP (depending on which calculator you use).
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    Quote Originally Posted by brs2c View Post
    Glad Nick was great to work with. Milltek resonated is my favorite sounding exhaust with test pipes/headers. Unfortunately, Milltek wouldn’t do a version of their exhaust in 2.5", nor would they sell me their mufflers in a 2.5" version. Dual 2.25" seems to efficiently support 371-416 HP (depending on which calculator you use).
    The milltek exhausts for our platform are 2.37”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBKIDD24 View Post
    The milltek exhausts for our platform are 2.37”.
    My bad. Dual exhaust @ 2.37" is efficient up to 461bhp, whereas 2.5" is efficient up to 513bhp. So, Milltek has you covered at max efficiency, up to at 93 octane on dual pulley levels.

    However, if you plan on going to higher ratio, larger TB, ethanol/racegas, water/meth, or ported supercharger charger (or all of the above-like I want)- you exceed even the 2.5" efficiency range.

    That is why I really wanted a larger diameter version of the Milltek (as I love the deep quietness of it), but they wouldn't go for it in any way shape, or form. So, I am going to have to settle with AWE, Borla, or custom to get the larger diameter.
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    When I had my B8 I had Miltek non res and everyone that heard it in person said it was the best sounding exhaust on the B8 they had heard. I loved the tune of it. Was different than the AWE. Sounded almost exotic-ish in its pitch and tone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brs2c View Post
    My bad. Dual exhaust @ 2.37" is efficient up to 461bhp, whereas 2.5" is efficient up to 513bhp. So, Milltek has you covered at max efficiency, up to at 93 octane on dual pulley levels.

    However, if you plan on going to higher ratio, larger TB, ethanol/racegas, water/meth, or ported supercharger charger (or all of the above-like I want)- you exceed even the 2.5" efficiency range.

    That is why I really wanted a larger diameter version of the Milltek (as I love the deep quietness of it), but they wouldn't go for it in any way shape, or form. So, I am going to have to settle with AWE, Borla, or custom to get the larger diameter.

    This is interesting. On my CTSV platform it seems 1 7/8" headers into 2.5 inch or 3 inch pipes are good up to 700+WHP. Wonder why the difference here is so much. Especially considering we push a ton of boost through a little pushrod lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENV² View Post
    This is interesting. On my CTSV platform it seems 1 7/8" headers into 2.5 inch or 3 inch pipes are good up to 700+WHP. Wonder why the difference here is so much. Especially considering we push a ton of boost through a little pushrod lol
    I am seeing, dual 3" pipes supports 739bhp. Also, when the exhaust is outside of the max efficiency range it is not like it all of a sudden chokes- it is just not quite as good as it could be.
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    In the end sound was a driver in the purchase, of course performance was a factor too. I’m thinking it will certainly out perform the stock system I have currently. I appreciate the input for sure...but maybe save it for a thread where a guy didn’t just say he bought one lol. I can’t even imagine what a 3” pipe sounds like on a V6. Balance is what I’m after...


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    Sorry Boz. It is my favorite sounding exhaust. It seemed like you were providing valuable evaluating vendors and found a good dealer- Nick. I was trying to add on my experience with the manufacturer. I am sorry if I was venting. I do think Milltek sounds the best! Enjoy the sweet music!
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    Just a word of caution... if your cats ever fail do not install test pipes with this exhaust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brs2c View Post
    My bad. Dual exhaust @ 2.37" is efficient up to 461bhp, whereas 2.5" is efficient up to 513bhp. So, Milltek has you covered at max efficiency, up to at 93 octane on dual pulley levels.

    However, if you plan on going to higher ratio, larger TB, ethanol/racegas, water/meth, or ported supercharger charger (or all of the above-like I want)- you exceed even the 2.5" efficiency range.

    That is why I really wanted a larger diameter version of the Milltek (as I love the deep quietness of it), but they wouldn't go for it in any way shape, or form. So, I am going to have to settle with AWE, Borla, or custom to get the larger diameter.
    Scorpion exhausts are 2'5". Not sure if a 3" will fit on our cars, or rather how well they would fit without hitting anything underneath the vehicle. At 2'5" my scorpion comes pretty close to a few things - but still clears. At 3" not so sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brs2c View Post
    Sorry Boz. It is my favorite sounding exhaust. It seemed like you were providing valuable evaluating vendors and found a good dealer- Nick. I was trying to add on my experience with the manufacturer. I am sorry if I was venting. I do think Milltek sounds the best! Enjoy the sweet music!
    All good man! I was kidding and truthful info is what this forum is all about. Someone with 500-600hp will find that helpful..so all good! I didn’t really know that calculation so I learned something too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudBoost View Post
    Just a word of caution... if your cats ever fail do not install test pipes with this exhaust.
    I will second this. I have milltek valved with high flow cats. Milltek valved is a different system obviously, but I'm adding the front silencer from this kit just to get it down to an acceptable volume.

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    Trigger pulled - Milltek Non Res 240

    Update: Order was processed, shipped and received within 48hrs. In fact, both Nick and Adell reached out to me to ensure I was happy with the product. They seem like a group that will work with you if anything were to go wrong, I haven’t got that much follow-up before. If anyone wants to add another solid avenue for go fast you should add them to your list. They seem to offer sales/deals regularly and after going through the process saw no difference in professionalism or customer support when compared to the top tuning companies referenced here. I don’t want to come off as a “Fan Boy” but thought I’d be thorough in my review in hopes it might help other AZ members. Ordering on Wednesday, unpacked on Friday...I’d say that’s pretty quick. Loving the look of the black oval tips they look huge when holding them, I’m not a quad tip guy (nothing against them...personal pref) so very happy with the choice...install next weekend!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AudBoost View Post
    Just a word of caution... if your cats ever fail do not install test pipes with this exhaust.
    Would you drill the blown cats? Or drill and add HFC’s further down the pipe? I have drilled cats on a 5.0 Thunderbird and it didn’t make the car crazy loud, actually almost no difference other than no more “pennies in a can” noise. How loud do our cars get with drilled cats, equivalent to test pipes or quieter?


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    I know we’ve all seen them before but thought I’d add it in the post. Black OvalsIMG_0563.JPGIMG_0564.JPGIMG_0565.JPG


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    So just got it back with new rotor wheels and the exhaust installed. The car is “shop dirty” and goes for accent wrapping tomorrow. The sound of this exhaust had me laughing/giggling all the way home. Once it’s all complete I will post some pics and video for exhaust. It is without a doubt WAY better in person. Quiet when it’s suppose to be and not when it’s suppose to be. I look forward to breaking it in to get the final sound. It rumbles nicely.


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    Trigger pulled - Milltek Non Res 240

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