Crackle Pop tune available?

[AvusPdx]

So I recently found out like a noob that VW guys (Golf R/GTI etc) has whats called a crackle and pop tune enabling, assuming it adds more fuel during shifts etc. Has anyone heard any tuners/tune maps doing this for our plat form? Its pretty rad to have the enable/disable function for proper settings.

Yes I know you can back fire when the cats are out, but would be nice to get that feature like many newer cars have (F-type/focus RS etc).

[Works2shoot]

There was a thread on this already. Might want to just let this one go...

[Vogz]

[sittinlow]

Saw this once on FB. but dont know much about it. People get really angry when this topic comes up in this forum haha.

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[brs2c]

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...hlight=crackle

[jimrobbington]

It's stupid, and pointless, and probably has adverse affects on the car overall. This is why no-one does it, since the S4 is a classy mobile.

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[Works2shoot]

All the cars with this feature from the factory have an array of additional sensors measuring things, like the aforementioned cats, to prevent any damage. Adding additional fuel haphazardly just seems unsafe for the car.

[AvusPdx]

damn, you guys all just shake your heads to turbo spools, supercharger whines, catless exhausts, back fires and burbles? As a car enthusiast, I get excited with anti-lag, pop bang booms.
Anyone over stage 2, you know your cats are going to fail eventually, what else can be harmed from it?

CAI to increase super charger whine = OK! Raspy shitty xpipes = OK! Carbon Fiber diffuser that has not been tested in the wind tunnel, just for looks = OK!
Burble crackle back fire = woa, hold up. Absolutely too ricey and dangerous.

Got it.

[seandon_792]

It’s not so much that’s it’s rice but more so that it doesn’t seem like a sound decision on this platform. Mainly because we have cat issues in stock cars so adding that extra spark and ignition in the exhaust system can’t possibly be good at all. These things are expensive to fix parts and labor wise. I’d rather leave it be but to each his own.


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[jimrobbington]

No rasp in my xpipe
https://youtu.be/BA-KEy8Qr9I

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[Works2shoot]

As a car enthusiast, I get excited with anti-lag, pop bang booms.

Are you comparing the recreation of popping by the dumping raw fuel into the already taxed exhaust system - an act that has nothing but potential to cause damage on this platform with no meaningful performance gain - to a true anti-lag system, or at a minimum a properly designed system that creates your desired sounds without any harmful side effects?

[AvusPdx]

Are you comparing the recreation of popping by the dumping raw fuel into the already taxed exhaust system - an act that has nothing but potential to cause damage with no meaningful performance gain - to a true anti-lag system, or at a minimum a properly designed system that creates your desired sounds without any harmful side effects?

Once the cats are gone, I'd consider it a "property designed system that creates your desired sounds". Mine will need to be gutted eventually.
I agree that with the stock cats in place, not a good idea.
I'm surprised the logic behind the back lash of recreational sound from the crackles, due to the damage to the stock cats, which we are all doing anything over stage 2.

So the only thing is its "rice" and not classy for this ~$20k entry model 10 year old sedan platform, but double sided tape carbon fiber add on pieces are cool.

[Works2shoot]

I'm surprised the logic behind the back lash of recreational sound from the crackles, due to the damage to the stock cats, which we are all doing anything over stage 2.

I see your point, but cats failing from "anything over stage 2" is the result of an increase in performance - and is worth it to many. If fake pops that don't provide any sort of anti-lag functionality is your thing, then you do you. I'm sure that someone can make you a custom tune. Heck maybe EPL will come up with something.

So the only thing is its "rice" and not classy for this ~$20k entry model 10 year old sedan platform, but double sided tape carbon fiber add on pieces are cool.

Most of us that have been here a while, and don't have pointless mods, didn't pay ~20k for our cars, but I can understand what you are saying.

[brs2c]

Performance enhancements which result in more noise= OK
More noise for the sake of "look at me, look at me"= Kinda lame

...Although I may be in the small minority, cause I think the F-type's crackles sounds like crap.

[u2nelson]

Mine does this now on the 1-2 shift and on the 2-3 if I’m on it hard. For some reason the rest of the shifts are fart less. 6MT stage 2, res downpipes touring. I like it, and it’s far from crazy loud, just right.


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[EstorilS4]

Buy a Jaguar

[16s4vil]

On point! I would get the tune done 100%

damn, you guys all just shake your heads to turbo spools, supercharger whines, catless exhausts, back fires and burbles? As a car enthusiast, I get excited with anti-lag, pop bang booms.
Anyone over stage 2, you know your cats are going to fail eventually, what else can be harmed from it?

CAI to increase super charger whine = OK! Raspy shitty xpipes = OK! Carbon Fiber diffuser that has not been tested in the wind tunnel, just for looks = OK!
Burble crackle back fire = woa, hold up. Absolutely too ricey and dangerous.

Got it.

[ReDeViL]

Performance enhancements which result in more noise= OK
More noise for the sake of "look at me, look at me"= Kinda lame

THIS.

[AvusPdx]

Justifying a $2000 awe cat back exhaust as a performance upgrade is laughable. Congrats on your $500/hp investment and I'm sure sound had nothing to do with your decisions.

[Dirt]

damn, you guys all just shake your heads to turbo spools, supercharger whines, catless exhausts, back fires and burbles? As a car enthusiast, I get excited with anti-lag, pop bang booms.
Anyone over stage 2, you know your cats are going to fail eventually, what else can be harmed from it?

CAI to increase super charger whine = OK! Raspy shitty xpipes = OK! Carbon Fiber diffuser that has not been tested in the wind tunnel, just for looks = OK!
Burble crackle back fire = woa, hold up. Absolutely too ricey and dangerous.

Got it.

Of the things you listed, only one has the potential (and likelihood) of damaging something. Hopefully you can figure it out since you “got it.”

[MSq5]

damn, you guys all just shake your heads to turbo spools, supercharger whines, catless exhausts, back fires and burbles? As a car enthusiast, I get excited with anti-lag, pop bang booms.
Anyone over stage 2, you know your cats are going to fail eventually, what else can be harmed from it?

CAI to increase super charger whine = OK! Raspy shitty xpipes = OK! Carbon Fiber diffuser that has not been tested in the wind tunnel, just for looks = OK!
Burble crackle back fire = woa, hold up. Absolutely too ricey and dangerous.

Got it.

I think you've lumped those of us who question crackle tunes in with a group in which we don't belong. My intake mods are to improve flow, not for sound. I have zero exhaust mods. My Stage 2 tune is with the most conservative 179mm crank pulley to try to save the cats while substantially raising power. No carbon fiber bling. No CAI. No poser mods.

A crackle tune that produces no more power safely is both ricer and probably dangerous to cats without extra sensors that we don't have. If it could be done safely and make more power the big tuners here would be all over it because they are in constant competition to lower quarter mile times and raise dyno numbers.

That they are not offering crackle tunes speaks loudly to the issue. If anyone made such a tune it would be for head turn seeking posers.

[16s4vil]

Everyone has their own opinion on what they would like to do to their car. Let them be. Would be real nice if their was a option to control the “burble” on/off . Although it would stay ON all the time :p I’d pay top doller for that.

[ENV²]

The B9 S4 comes stock with a crackle and pop tune. Just saying.

and lets not talk about my CTSV. Sounds like a storm is coming with a war going on inside it.

[GandalfTheIbis]

Once the cats are gone, I'd consider it a "property designed system that creates your desired sounds". Mine will need to be gutted eventually.
I agree that with the stock cats in place, not a good idea.
I'm surprised the logic behind the back lash of recreational sound from the crackles, due to the damage to the stock cats, which we are all doing anything over stage 2.

So the only thing is its "rice" and not classy for this ~$20k entry model 10 year old sedan platform, but double sided tape carbon fiber add on pieces are cool.

Considering some of these cars are seeing multiple cat failures in stock form and others have been dual pulley without failure for 20,000-50,000 miles, I don't think its fair to assume that failures are the result of "going beyond stage 2." bhvdr just detailed his experience of redlining his old car daily for over 20,000 miles in another thread and put this rather eloquently.

Hi there. I happen to live off a 55mph two lane road and I did this purposefully. I enjoy driving the car hard daily. I mean this when I say literally every day I owned those cars I took them from 0 mph to 100mph multiple times at full WOT. I dont drive to "commute" luckily. I dont get on a highway to go to work. Im able to drive for fun so the car got exercise daily. In addition, I took it to the 1/4 mile track probably a dozen or more times so maybe in the neighborhood 75 passes. I road coursed it but not regularly. Only a couple times. That being said, the car did see peak EGT temps daily.

I'm not saying that because I had no issues, no one else should. I know other folks with various tunes and levels of mods who have been through 3 or 4 sets of cats or 3 or 4 sets of intercooler cores as well and I've never had a failure of either one. So I guess just pointing out that not everyone will have immediate failures. There may be other factors that not all of us are fully aware of yet either that may help or hinder the failure rates. Just giving my experience though.

Mike

[Jimcoily]

+1 for crackle tune.... for the catless guys. With B8's getting cheaper more and more younger people are picking up S4's and the culture is changing. I crackle tune may be needed in the future just for a tuning company to stay relevant

[mrb5_supra_wrx]

Crackle and pop tunes are stupid!! They harm the turbos in turbo cars leave unburnt fuel in the system. With a proper exhaust or if you go catless the car will burble and pop on its own. My innotech valvetronic does this and I'm still catted.

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[sacandagaD]

It's not for me, but maybe some tech wizard can create a "crackle tune" soundtrack for the S4 Soundakator, then just add a bluetooth speaker under the rear valance.

[AvusPdx]

an on or off switch would be awesome. As long as the tuner has a disclaimer such as "off road use only" or "your components may see wear and tear more quickly" should be enough to let the buyers know to be aware.

Whether you swap out to an RS grill (RS poser), black out head lights, taped carbon fiber pieces, aggressive fitment wheels that weight more than stock wheels, I personally do not consider the crackle/pop tune to be worse.

I said 20k because thats how much these cars are worth now, I've been on this platform for 2 years now, purchased at 38k with 21k miles.
At my age (33), I try to keep my toys below 40k.

[Oloung1]

The B9 S4 comes stock with a crackle and pop tune. Just saying.

and lets not talk about my CTSV. Sounds like a storm is coming with a war going on inside it.

how about some crack tune vids just of the v wagon, share with us what real metal sounds like

[Pawan2013]

how about some crack tune vids just of the v wagon, share with us what real metal sounds like

i agree

[MSq5]

an on or off switch would be awesome. As long as the tuner has a disclaimer such as "off road use only" or "your components may see wear and tear more quickly" should be enough to let the buyers know to be aware.

Whether you swap out to an RS grill (RS poser), black out head lights, taped carbon fiber pieces, aggressive fitment wheels that weight more than stock wheels, I personally do not consider the crackle/pop tune to be worse.

I said 20k because thats how much these cars are worth now, I've been on this platform for 2 years now, purchased at 38k with 21k miles.
At my age (33), I try to keep my toys below 40k.

From your mod list, it looks like you are already there with poser RS grill and go-slower add on rear carbon fiber rear wing and noise maker intake exposed to engine heat. I guess it is now only a small leap to a crackle tune. Sure, go for it. Maybe install some supplemental injectors to spray extra fuel in on command to induce crackle. Hey, it might last a couple days before a rod decides to liberate itself from the block. Go for it!

I have a buddy with more money than sense with a new BMW M. Fast car. Comes from the factory with a crackle tune. Would be as quick or quicker without it. So would the Jags. BMW and Jag owners with lots of money tend to be insecure attention seekers. I thought Audi might be different.

[tar]

From your mod list, it looks like you are already there with poser RS grill and go-slower add on rear carbon fiber rear wing and noise maker intake exposed to engine heat. I guess it is now only a small leap to a crackle tune. Sure, go for it. Maybe install some supplemental injectors to spray extra fuel in on command to induce crackle. Hey, it might last a couple days before a rod decides to liberate itself from the block. Go for it!

I have a buddy with more money than sense with a new BMW M. Fast car. Comes from the factory with a crackle tune. Would be as quick or quicker without it. So would the Jags. BMW and Jag owners with lots of money tend to be insecure attention seekers. I thought Audi might be different.

Go back to your mom suv forum. Personally I think you have worn out your welcome here with douchy replies and better than everyone else attitude.

[mercedesinfarct]

From your mod list, it looks like you are already there with poser RS grill and go-slower add on rear carbon fiber rear wing and noise maker intake exposed to engine heat. I guess it is now only a small leap to a crackle tune. Sure, go for it. Maybe install some supplemental injectors to spray extra fuel in on command to induce crackle. Hey, it might last a couple days before a rod decides to liberate itself from the block. Go for it!

I have a buddy with more money than sense with a new BMW M. Fast car. Comes from the factory with a crackle tune. Would be as quick or quicker without it. So would the Jags. BMW and Jag owners with lots of money tend to be insecure attention seekers. I thought Audi might be different.

Why would you think that. People are people. People buy different brands of cars. Crackle tunes come stock so it's no more ricer than a stock mini or an amg, and no more ricer than a $2500 exhaust to make the car sound louder and more conspicuous.

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[LP700-4]

I have a buddy with more money than sense with a new BMW M. Fast car. Comes from the factory with a crackle tune. Would be as quick or quicker without it. So would the Jags. BMW and Jag owners with lots of money tend to be insecure attention seekers. I thought Audi might be different.

I guess you've never heard the B9 S4/S5, or the RS7, R8 etc...they all come stock with tunes/exhausts that pop/crackle, usually only in dynamic.

Clearly everyone who buys those cars are insecure attention seekers.

Mod your car for yourself, if you don't like the idea of it then don't buy it. Simple as that.

[brs2c]

Lets take a moment and give thanks for the fact that even with the strong opinions here, this discussion is 10x more civil and sain than the average Facebook political argument.

[tar]

Lets take a moment and give thanks for the fact that even with the strong opinions here, this discussion is 10x more civil and sain than the average Facebook political argument.

Or the b7 rs4 forum. That place is a shithole.

[16s4vil]

+1

Go back to your mom suv forum. Personally I think you have worn out your welcome here with douchy replies and better than everyone else attitude.

[AvusPdx]

From your mod list, it looks like you are already there with poser RS grill and go-slower add on rear carbon fiber rear wing and noise maker intake exposed to engine heat. I guess it is now only a small leap to a crackle tune. Sure, go for it. Maybe install some supplemental injectors to spray extra fuel in on command to induce crackle. Hey, it might last a couple days before a rod decides to liberate itself from the block. Go for it!

I have a buddy with more money than sense with a new BMW M. Fast car. Comes from the factory with a crackle tune. Would be as quick or quicker without it. So would the Jags. BMW and Jag owners with lots of money tend to be insecure attention seekers. I thought Audi might be different.

Don't forget the LED light swaps, total rice. I did an amber delete on my head lights and painted them black too, damn! Look at this German rice cooker!
I have an aluminium custom made front lip incoming and a carbon fiber roof vinyl wrap *gasp.

No worries, I'll out perform your slush box SUV in any performance category. But I bet you can haul more tampons during your monthly Costco runs, and not spill your skinny vanilla latte with your stock suspension. Am truly jealous.

[irish07]

Guys in all seriousness, if the OP wants a pops and bangs file, why all the hate? Too many ppl listen to respond versus listen to understand. Instead ppl start making up bogus stories about "extra" sensors for a pops and bangs on a car already equipped with the file from factory...complete BS!! The big box companies don't have this because they are indeed chasing down 1/4 miles...sucks that 90% of the crowd that own a B8 S4 don't run 1/4 miles to know if their times have even improved. Goes back to my first quote "Listen to respond versus listen to understand", if big companies actually shot for what ppl want in a product, then question's like the OP's would just be answered by saying X company does it.

Uncontrolled misfires cause catalyst damage, controlled misfires DO NOT cause catalyst damage. Uncontrolled misfires would be would be something like an excessively lean mixture or rich mixture. With a lean mix, there's not enough fuel to create the required explosion thus resulting in a misfire that has extreme heat. This tight of misfire WILL help your catalyst if not resolved fast. If you have a rich mixture forcing a misifre, you don't have enough air to create a proper explosion, once the exhaust open you have unburnt fuel enter the exhaust and ignites on the catalysts brink, this will eventually ruin the bring and also saturate it in fuel for it all won't burn off...aka faulting the catalyst.

When you have a controlled misfire like in the F-Type R, they're injecting fuel on the overrun to ignite on the exhaust stroke, that means timing is also being set to fire around 10-20* PAST tdc. So your not sending unburnt fuel into the exhaust to ignite on the pipe/manifold/catalysts..that act of explosion has already occurred and it's set to be around 14.7:1 because it's set fueling is lambda 1, that means the mixture won't be excessive lean nor rich. Now some ppl may comment "an explosion going into the exhaust would damage the catalysts". Well the temperature of the controlled misfire won't be any different than the exhaust gas temp while in closed loop cruising on the highway at 3,000rpm for few hours. If the controlled misfire was so strong and potent, it would damage the turbo compressor shaft bearings in turbo's resulting in premature engine damage for factories. As for the F-Type, it's supercharged and really just uses the pops and bangs to cool down the exhaust temp after a hard pull, it will pop and bang if reved at idle but that's why Jag limits the idle reving rpm to 3,000. It's not to stop ppl from reving and creating pops and bangs at cars and coffee, it's to stop the timing chain from jumping under NO load just to here the pops and bangs at idle :-)

If you want a pops and bangs file, search for company's that tune for client safety and PREFERENCE, versus companies shooting for that big number and low 1/4 time to say "We're the best" .

Hate on my comment if you like..just my 2cents

[awwturbo]

Don't forget the LED light swaps, total rice. I did an amber delete on my head lights and painted them black too, damn! Look at this German rice cooker!
I have an aluminium custom made front lip incoming and a carbon fiber roof vinyl wrap *gasp.

No worries, I'll out perform your slush box SUV in any performance category. But I bet you can haul more tampons during your monthly Costco runs, and not spill your skinny vanilla latte with your stock suspension. Am truly jealous.

Dude, you need to shut the F up. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. You don't have to go full rage on ppl and flame them due to your in-securities. Quit acting like you're 18. Or maybe you are. You want the crackle tune. Go for it. I can care less what you do to your car. But to say something on this forum where it has been mentioned before and continue to justify yourself to feel important is just lame. The mod should lock this useless thread...