Audizine - An Automotive Enthusiast Community

Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Veteran Member Four Rings Biged243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 27 2013
    AZ Member #
    112227
    My Garage
    Vr6 gti
    Location
    Metro Detroit Michigan

    1.8 Rebuild check list

    Guest-only advertisement. Register or Log In now!
    Doing a mild rebuild with drop in rods. Going to do all pm stuff but I want to make sure I am not leaving anything out before starting. If I missed anything please let me know.

    Ie drop in rods
    Rod bearings
    Piston rings
    Head gasket set
    Apr head bolts
    Metal coolant flange
    Thermostat
    J plug
    Timing belt kit
    Water pump
    Green temp sensor
    Timing chain
    Timing chain wear pads
    Ie press fit crank gear (timing belt)
    New oil pump sprocket
    Crank shaft seal
    A few coolant hoses
    There is probably a few more parts that I am forgetting to list. Does that look about right?
    What ever makes sense go with the opposite and you got it

  2. #2
    Veteran Member Four Rings Spike00513's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 05 2013
    AZ Member #
    110766
    Location
    CA

    If you're doing crankshaft main seal at the front, is it worth adding RMS/Rear Main Seal at the back?

    Is it worth installing a Fluidampr?
    Suction Jet Pump?
    PCV/Vacuum/Crankcase Ventilation/Breather system parts?
    Valve stem seals?
    Other/2nd coolant temp sensor?
    Valve cover gasket?
    Fuel injector cup seats?
    Radiator?
    Probably more/other stuff like you said.

  3. #3
    Veteran Member Four Rings Biged243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 27 2013
    AZ Member #
    112227
    My Garage
    Vr6 gti
    Location
    Metro Detroit Michigan

    Fluid amp would be nice and it would help but for the price I am going to see if I can live without it. It’s not a necessity. I forgot to mention sai block off plate, valve cover gasket is in the head gasket set, it probably would be a good idea to replace the pancake pvc it’s probably worn out and the added pressure might blow it. My radiator is fine. Didn’t think of the fuel injector cup seats, o rings is a must and I forgot to mention that. I will have to check but I think the valve stems come with the head gasket set but now that you mention it I will make sure I have a set of that. I probably should get a bunch of vac line parts or just delete. 2nd coolant temp is probably a good idea to replace too. The crankshaft seals I thought only the one was a good idea to replace when back there. I’ll look into it, while I have the engine out it probably would be a good idea to just do both. Thank you.
    What ever makes sense go with the opposite and you got it

  4. #4
    Veteran Member Four Rings eljay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 13 2015
    AZ Member #
    348695
    Location
    NS

    I'd keep the factory vacuum system. Everything is there for a reason and it works. You don't want to be chasing gremlins later.
    The other things I'd add would be:
    - 034 vacuum silicone hose kit
    - get a timing belt kit with the new Litens tensioner.
    - new oil dipstick tube
    - oil pickup tube, maybe
    - inspect/repair/replace any wiring harness (ignition coil and injector at least)

    If you are going with such an extensive rebuild, you might as well get an AEG or FSI crankshaft and stroker pistons and make it a 2L. Also, get the head checked for any cracks - AMB heads seem to be famous for cracking near cylinder #2.

    May I ask why you are doing such a rebuild? What is the mileage on the engine? Have you done compression/leakdown test?
    I would just like to learn if there are any symptoms that led to this or whether this is simply preventative maintenance or future power prep project type endeavor. Thanks!

    Good luck!
    Current: 2016 Audi A4 Allroad (in progress)
    Past: 2005 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro Avant / 6-speed / Ultrasport - SOLD

  5. #5
    Veteran Member Four Rings SleeperAvant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 21 2005
    AZ Member #
    6966
    Location
    Milton, Ontario

    Put an AEB head there as well.
    – Steve

    2021 Tesla Model Y
    2020 Tesla Model 3
    2014 Dodge Grand Caravan
    Gone - 2005 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro 6MT

  6. #6
    Senior Member Two Rings
    Join Date
    Jan 04 2014
    AZ Member #
    137991
    Location
    US

    Estimate cost of parts ?
    B6 04' A4 1.8TQ 6MT

  7. #7
    Veteran Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Dec 30 2014
    AZ Member #
    306751
    My Garage
    Nogaro 2000 S4 6-Speed, Ebony Pearl 2002 A4 5-Speed
    Location
    South Carolina

    Thrust washers with the bottom end rebuild.

    EDIT: i also have some parts im not using anymore if it would be useful. 034 pcv valve, SAI back off plate. I have other stuff as well just let me know what you need and i will check my garage.
    You win some, you lose some...

  8. #8
    Veteran Member Four Rings Spike00513's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 05 2013
    AZ Member #
    110766
    Location
    CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Biged243 View Post
    Fluid amp would be nice and it would help but for the price I am going to see if I can live without it. It’s not a necessity. I forgot to mention sai block off plate, valve cover gasket is in the head gasket set, it probably would be a good idea to replace the pancake pvc it’s probably worn out and the added pressure might blow it. My radiator is fine. Didn’t think of the fuel injector cup seats, o rings is a must and I forgot to mention that. I will have to check but I think the valve stems come with the head gasket set but now that you mention it I will make sure I have a set of that. I probably should get a bunch of vac line parts or just delete. 2nd coolant temp is probably a good idea to replace too. The crankshaft seals I thought only the one was a good idea to replace when back there. I’ll look into it, while I have the engine out it probably would be a good idea to just do both. Thank you.
    I forgot about fuel injector O-rings. IDK if it's recommended to re-use them or install new ones.
    In which case, IDK if the new ones have to be an OEM part number, or anything else safe enough for fuel and that can tolerate it, of the right size dimensions.
    A fuel injector service shop told me they prefer brown-colored Viton I think, with a light coating of certain O2 sensor-safe lubricant to help install it. Supposedly they last longer but cost a bit more.
    Maybe if they were worth it, Audi'd spec them. Then again, maybe it doesn't matter much to them and is worth the cost savings, if it's just to get the car off the line.

    I myself am not sure of which injector cups are worth getting, if I should just do plastic OEM this time, instead of more expensive metal ones from Phenix.
    I wonder if it's worth cleaning up the intake manifold while you're at it, and what the best way is to do so.
    I've thought about finding a spare one (IDK if there's multiple versions) to clean and get ready to swap on, just to have a nice-looking one. Same for other parts like valve cover, etc.

    IDK how to replace valve stem seals, or which ones to get.
    I've only done RMS (Rear Main Seal) on a 3.0L that people warned me would be scary, but maybe it helped that I took my time and used the soda bottle trick, trying to do it like surgery.
    I hear it's recommended to put more liquid gasket in the corners or some specific area, on the seal flange metal, when putting it back on the engine.
    And that one was black PTFE/Teflon, not brown rubber. Supposedly Teflon is harder to install and easier to mess up/bend, but self-lubricates and wears less of a groove into the spinning crankshaft metal than an old-school rubber one.
    And for Teflon, the surfaces may need to be clean and dry to install it.
    I then let it sit to conform to the crank surface for hours, before hand-cranking in the correct rotation direction, before a start-up.
    But don't take my word for it, who knows if that's the proper way. It's just how I did it at the time.

    Also, before it gets dry and you break it by accidentally leaning on it, there's a coolant hose kit from the upper radiator, by the reservoir. If this happens, it'll obviously cost a lot more finding it quickly from a dealership, rather than ahead of time elsewhere.

    I hear those square metal clips for the fuel injectors are important. That they shouldn't be lost somewhere. I wonder if they can just be re-used, so long as they're not too bent out of shape or anything, from prying to remove them.

    Quote Originally Posted by eljay View Post
    I'd keep the factory vacuum system. Everything is there for a reason and it works. You don't want to be chasing gremlins later.
    The other things I'd add would be:
    - 034 vacuum silicone hose kit
    - get a timing belt kit with the new Litens tensioner.
    - new oil dipstick tube
    - oil pickup tube, maybe
    - inspect/repair/replace any wiring harness (ignition coil and injector at least)

    If you are going with such an extensive rebuild, you might as well get an AEG or FSI crankshaft and stroker pistons and make it a 2L. Also, get the head checked for any cracks - AMB heads seem to be famous for cracking near cylinder #2.

    May I ask why you are doing such a rebuild? What is the mileage on the engine? Have you done compression/leakdown test?
    I would just like to learn if there are any symptoms that led to this or whether this is simply preventative maintenance or future power prep project type endeavor. Thanks!

    Good luck!
    I feel like I heard of reported sweating, leaking, and fitment issues with 034 vacuum hose kit, that shifted forum consensus to preferring OEM replacement parts for that.
    IDK 1. if this is even true and 2. if 034 simply addressed this/responded by fixing and improving their kit.

    Ah yes, the harness. Forgot about that. I haven't figured out which one to pick; it seems there's multiple products on the market available for this.
    And apparently some insulation put on it may be good as well.

    It seems people prefer Graf water pump with metal impeller, and new manual tensioner as you said. I was trying to figure out part number and how it looks the other day.
    I wonder about serpentine belt and if it's tensioner needs replacement as well.
    Supposedly there's two versions of serpentine belt. I think Blauparts said 02-03 A4 is 1590mm, and 05-06 is 1570mm.
    I don't get what this means.
    Hopefully whatever the part is, it fits.
    I know with Autozone, their system thinks different of Audi. If you go to look up brake pads for an '05 A4, they'll give the wrong pad for a B7, which came out in '05.5 but might be in the system as just "05".
    Versus telling them 04 (surely a B6) vs. 07 (surely a B7)

    I wonder how to check for cracks as you say, and if it only happens if the car has overheated before.
    I've rented a Block Tester to try out and am reading the instructions; it seems to need using at the coolant reservoir. But maybe certain testers can also go into spark plug holes to check individual cylinder areas to be more precise on location. Unless compression/leakdown test can also help with that.

    Oil pickup tube; a fish tank cleaning brush from a pet store (like a pipe cleaner) can help catch breaking dry shards when removing it, since it's dry and brittle.
    I think the orange style is the one that fits, not black.

    I heard about oil pickup tube. To check it for clogs, maybe clean or replace with new, and other stuff in the area such as new oil pan gasket job, cleaning the pan, etc.
    MetalNerd also sells a magnetic drain plug.

  9. #9
    Veteran Member Four Rings Biged243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 27 2013
    AZ Member #
    112227
    My Garage
    Vr6 gti
    Location
    Metro Detroit Michigan

    I am putting in a eliminator. I am building up a spare engine so I can swap it in with minimal down time. This isn’t a first time I have built an engine. The engine in the car has 160k on it. I don’t know the full condition of the engine since I have only had it a year. I need to replace my clutch and decided to pull the engine to do it and this is where it’s leading me. While it out right. Lol. I already have the eliminator tubular manifold, 550 injectors, tuned spare ecu for the turbo, fmic, clutch and flywheel kit, ss shifter, ie press fit crank gear, metal flange, rear crank seal and other misc parts. The main stuff is in shopping carts and I am wanting to only buy once but I know that there will be things that I will need to get that will be forgotten. The spare engine has 101k on it. I was planning on keeping the vac lines minus the sai. I was debating the oil pickup tube. Have read about it clogging and what nots. I have read about the head cracking with the amb from just normal use. I was planning on having it checked. I was going to replace the serpentine belt and the tensioner pulley. I’ll look into the 034 vac line kit.
    A striker would be nice but I don’t want to go that extensive especially tacking on another 2k to the build. I didn’t think that the mains needed to be touched for drop ins, however I have pondered doing that too. I will probably not go any further than the 2863. This engine is being built to last another 150k and to be passed down in 3 or so years to one of my daughters. So it might be an over kill for the power level but I am doing most of it to ensure it will hold up my abuse to make it to them. Sorry if I am all over the place with my responses. Got a lot on my mind.
    What ever makes sense go with the opposite and you got it

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


    © 2001-2025 Audizine, Audizine.com, and Driverzines.com
    Audizine is an independently owned and operated automotive enthusiast community and news website.
    Audi and the Audi logo(s) are copyright/trademark Audi AG. Audizine is not endorsed by or affiliated with Audi AG.