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    Established Member Two Rings
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    2001 Audi A4 1.8t Quattro; 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.2l
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    T3S60 vs Frankenturbo F21

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    I'm looking for opinions of people who've run one or both setups and can give me an opinion to make my decision on route to go this summer.

    First off I have to replace my turbo and second off I want more power but to still maintain driveability as a daily driver.

    Feel free to correct me on any mistakes in the information I've gathered.

    Frankenturbo sells full kits, everything you need to install including options with bigger (440cc) injectors and a tune for I believe 18-1900 with everything.
    A t3 I'd have to get a turbo, injectors, tip, wastegate, and weld a new flange on my downpipe and it should roughly be the same cost.
    From information the f21 is a 300+ hp turbo and the t3 is good for about 350 hp. Both should spool fully by about 3000rpm.

    So from my readings they are fairly similar but the t3 mah produce more power but not substantially.

    Secondary questions.
    My second maf failed so I've been running my k03s (before failure) mafless and just dealing with the check engine light. Is it worth getting a new maf or getting a mafless tune with either set-up?
    I also have pretty much all supporting mods done (exhaust, fmic, etc), anything else you'd recommend as urgent to make the most out of either set up. Finally I currently have a revo tune, it would be cheaper to get another revo tune but is another companies tune worth the extra money?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings offroader1006's Avatar
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    77 International Scout II, 73 911 2.8RS, 2010 Cayenne
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    Columbia, SC

    Go with the T3. Easier to go bigger when you want.

    Frankenturbo has huge customer service issues lately. F21 turbo on mine only lasted 2 years/20k miles.

    I'm going full GT3076 now.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    United States

    I had a T3 Super60 .48ar, it was loads of fun, spooled very quick. would spin all 4 on dry pavement with an aggressive launch. was great fun rwd too. Its a good compromise turbo, you don't really lose any low end drivability, and it doesn't taper quite as hard as kkk flanged turbos. they're cheap too, like $700 brand new with an upgraded wheel. You can definitely piece together a T3 setup for less than a F21 kit costs.

    And, you are better off replacing your maf. it makes everything more accurate.
    Stupid drift A4

    R.I.P RWD-converted '99 A4 Avant 1.8T

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    Established Member Two Rings [deleted]'s Avatar
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    My F21 is well out of warranty (over 3 years) and holds over 20psi-23psi. Never had to service yet, no oil in intercooler piping. Maybe 22500mi on it

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