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    Continental DWS06 comparison vs dedicated summers

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    I was very close to putting on all-season tires prior to this last winter, but made it through winter on my OEM summer tires just fine. It got below freezing multiple times (no ice though) but I had no issues.

    For my area, I think summers are fine year-around, however, I avoided driving up to Lake Tahoe recently because of my tires. I definitely donít need winters here at all, though.

    So, can anyone who switched from dedicated summers to all-seasons like the DWS06 on stock 20s share their experience?

    Is the drop off in performance that noticeable versus the benefit of being able to drive in occasional snow? I donít track my car, just typical driving.

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    DWS06 are really great tires, I run them and love'em they're super quite, good grip wet, dry and snow..
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    I run them on my wife's Rs7. Great tire. She got caught in 2 snowstorms with them last winter and she said going slow they were perfectly fine.

    I'm pretty sure that if the car gets driven year round and you're not hunting for snow they preform great.

    But..... If you are purposely on the roads every time it snows (like myself) I'd buck up and get a dedicated snow tire.

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    Based on your described driving style, and the fact that cold snowy weather isn't really an issue. You'll be perfectly happy with a quality AS tire.
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    The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires also work very well in California for all seasons & for random trips to Tahoe in the winter.

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    I ran the Michelin Pilot Sports A/S tires on my S4 after I was caught with my worn summer tires in a late April snowstorm. I think the all seasons are a good three season tire but don't quite cut it in the snow we get here in MN. I'm not a real aggressive driver but I felt they handled the curves very well.

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    The a/s3 sucks in the snow, the a/s3+ is a huge improvement, really comparable to Dws in the snow with just a bit more correction. The a/s3+ really shines in dry/wet and probably the closes all season to dedicated summers youíll ever drive on. Itís honestly better than some dedicated summers.
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    I have 3 sets of wheels/tires. One is a dedicated proper performance winter tire set on the OEM wheels. My other two sets are the DWS06 and Michelin Pilot Super Sport. The DWS is a great tire, but does not perform anything like the PSS. Steering response is much sharper with the PSS, as is that "planted" on the road feeling. So the DWS is a very good tire, but you can tell the difference when you run a top end max performance tire.
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    I recently switched to Continental DWS06 AS tires. I really havenít noticed any discernible performance loss, even through the winter. I recently made a nice run through my side road I frequently take and had a blast. No wheel spin gunning it off the light and she accelerates just fine even in lower (less than ideal) temps. Weíve had a fairly long but mild winter and Iím glad I made the switch.

    I switched to enjoy the car year round, even though I donít take her out in the snow much.

    Unless you plan on taking her to the track, you wonít really notice much of a difference most of the time IMO, perhaps in a few occasions as VVG states. Youíll benefit from longer tread life. I consulted a tire rack rep and thatís exactly what he told me. Thatís exactly what I am experiencing.

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    Do not touch the Michelin A/S 3+'s. Good tire with WAY too much road noise. Michelin screwed up in the design and compound of that tire. Yes, personal experience on personal vehicleS....unfortunately did 2 cars with tires at same time. Can get same performance with others tires that have less noise.

    I run the DWS06 on my S6 with factory 20s here in Colorado. While it has been a couple of mild winters, I have gotten into some good(bad?) winter road conditions to really test the tire. Very please with them. May not be the best, but these perform well enough that I will continue to have them on my S6. I am running PS4+ on a second set of 20s for summer use.

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    Thanks for the feedback; was really helpful.

    I'm going to get these tires. I agree, based on my driving style and needs, I doubt I'll be missing much by using these over dedicated summers. I don't even corner fast, lol, just the occasional grin-inducing sprint from a stoplight. Well, maybe more than occasional...

    Just hated not being able to sprint to Tahoe in the winter when I wanted to.

    I use to run Michelin Pilot Sports A/S (the predecessor to the AS 3's) and one thing that I absolutely hated about them was how they aged: they got really noisy and rough as they worn down, so that's why I zeroed in on these Continentals.
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    +1 on the A/S 3+, I disagree on the road noise issue, sounds like you had an issue with your tires because mine make very little noise


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    Quote Originally Posted by nks979 View Post
    +1 on the A/S 3+, I disagree on the road noise issue, sounds like you had an issue with your tires because mine make very little noise


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    +1, depends on the road surfuce and how worn the tires are.

    I used to have the DWS06 tires and they were no less noisy than the A/S 3+. I think the all weather tires may just be noisier on some roads, especially if worn.

    The DWS06 is lighter tire (25lb for 19") and the side walls are little softer than the A/S 3+ (28lb for 19") .
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    Quote Originally Posted by nks979 View Post
    +1 on the A/S 3+, I disagree on the road noise issue, sounds like you had an issue with your tires because mine make very little noise


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    Won't stay that way. Also, it highly depends on the side wall aspect ratio. The lower the aspect ratio, the worse the road noise in the A/S 3+ gets. The older the A/S 3+ gets, the worse the road noise gets. Just can't win with that tire. Michelin makes some of the best, but not this one.

    DWS06 is probably a notch down in wet grip over the A/S 3+, but there is almost no road noise. My DWS06's are currently near replacement tread level and there is still no noticeable increase in road noise over their new levels. Our 2nd vehicle with the A/S 3+ is at 50% tread and we are going to get rid of them. Noise is completely unacceptable and we have had 6 sets of tires(almost all are other Michelin brand tires) on that vehicle and well over 100K miles. Never had a tire this loud, accept a Acura with a certain BFG tire a few years back.............

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    Iíve had these tires for a few weeks now and so far theyíre great.

    In my daily-driving routine they donít feel any different than the OEM Pirelli PZero summer tires. Theyíre quieter, though, but actually feel a little stiffer to me, but in a good way for corner deformation.

    One thing I did notice, aesthetically, is that the rubber compound is really dark black versus the Pirelli. The tire/rubber just looks different.

    Overall very happy with the tires. Canít comment on winter driving, but so far the summer part works just fine for my driving routine. The tire doesnít complain at all for full-throttle stabs and just goes. Another thing I noticed is that I would briefly lose grip during spirited cornering over manhole covers with the Pirellis but not with the Continentals.

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    I had these tires on my MK7 GTi and got caught in a snow storm with 12+ inches on the ground. I made the 26 mile drive without issue while witnessing some other AWD vehicles that got stuck and stranded. They truly are a great all around tire. My wife has dedicated Blizzak WS80s on her S3 and in my opinion, these tires come close in winter performance to her blizzaks.

    I'm looking into replacing the OEM P7 Pirelli Cinturato tires with DWS06s on my C7.5 A6.

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    I guess Iíll be the dissenter here; I hate the DWS. Iím sure theyíre great in snow, but in the summer they are TRASH. I still stick with my PS4Ses and a winter beater or snows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaxD View Post
    I guess Iíll be the dissenter here; I hate the DWS. Iím sure theyíre great in snow, but in the summer they are TRASH. I still stick with my PS4Ses and a winter beater or snows.
    I also run the DWS06. I have run the previous DWS and DW Contis. They have all been great on Dry, Wet, and Snow covered roads. They are quiet and wear evenly. They do not have as stiff a sidewall as other performance tires but they stick great. I'll be going with them again this fall/winter as I've worn the S off on my current set. Can you elaborate more on what you mean by "TRASH"? Any specific issues you were unhappy about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaxD View Post
    I guess Iíll be the dissenter here; I hate the DWS. Iím sure theyíre great in snow, but in the summer they are TRASH. I still stick with my PS4Ses and a winter beater or snows.

    You can dissent all you want because this isn't a comparison worth a hill of beans. I high performance summer tire, PS4, against a all season sport tire, DWS06. This is apples to oranges. The DWS06 can do things in rain and snow the P4S can't even imagine doing and the P4S can corner and grip in dry conditions like the DWS06 can't imagine. Yes, having the ability to own dedicated summer and winter tires is nice, but not a reason for comparison.

    For those above, I just swapped my S6 over to the Michelin A/S 3 +. I don't have any complaints in terms of noise so far on the Audi platform, so I will retract those statements in respect of this Audi. I will say that I cannot notice a confidence factor in the Michelin vs DWS06 in terms or handling so far. My DWS06 were at just under 50%, but a large road issue took care of one side and forced a tire change. Decided to revisit the A/S 3 +. Winter is on the way, so I'll give more update once that get under way. So far, DWS05 or A/S3 +......no clear winner.



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